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They’re the latest to distance themselves from Donald Trump following his remarks about Mexican immigrants.

Wasn't Trump referring to the 'illegal' immigrants? The illegals are riddled with legal issues from drugs, rape, to murder. That is fact. Welcome the new age of PC.

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Trump defined illegals not by the fact they broke immigration laws, but speculated that they are also rapists. And he was specific to Mexicans. That's trying to define a group by the worst possible potential and people rejected that. It's the same mechanics racists use.

Insert any group in there and technically it's not incorrect since it only takes one rapist. Imagine if I said that Harvard grads were rapists...but I'm sure some of them are good people. Technically I'm not lying but you'd probably ask why I'm going after Harvard grads like that. Breaking an immigration law doesn't mean you are any more or less likely to rape.

Before the World Cup was played in Japan there was a Japanese politician who said Japan needs more doctors to handle all the rape the foreigners would cause during the event. As a foreigner in Japan it was insulting. I'm sure he could tell me that foreigners have raped before, so...

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@Superlib,

You are spinning it just like the media. Illegal immigrants committing crimes like rape, drug dealing, theft are well documented. Trump is totally right and it is the liberal world that is just spinning the facts. If a Mexican or Black person said it of whites there would be absolutely no backlash. It`s gang up situation but facts are facts and what Trump said about illegals is correct, many are good and many are bad. Also, people must enter the country legally.

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Everyone loves a blow-hard, and he is a classic. For all those who saw "W" as a loose canon or cowboy, elect him. He may have the right answer for economic problems, border protection, a multitude of other problems, but war is not one of them. He has absolutely no possibility of being elected, but "money talks" and he can buy all the time he wants on the media. Why does the media continue to give coverage for him, because in the media business, "If it bleeds, it leads." He isn't bleeding, he is bellowing, and should not be taken seriously.

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So Flo Rida was going to be on the Miss USA show with lyrics like these- I know what you came here to see If you're a freak, then ya coming home with me?

I ain't got no problem with the lyrics though, just saying....

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Trump defined illegals not by the fact they broke immigration laws, but speculated that they are also rapists. And he was specific to Mexicans. That's trying to define a group by the worst possible potential and people rejected that. It's the same mechanics racists use.

From an LA Times (a very liberal newspaper) article back in 2002: 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.

Not saying that all of these people are from Mexico, but I would put a bet on it that more of them in these two statistics are from Mexico than the illegal aliens in the USA from Canada or Japan.

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Lots of credible statistics support Trump. Not to the degree as 'all' or 'most' but the fact is it is a very costly problem in the US. Trump being a business man sees cost saving and a sensitive issue. No doubt he employs numerous immigrants.

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They’re the latest to distance themselves from Donald Trump following his remarks about Mexican immigrants.

Wasn't Trump referring to the 'illegal' immigrants? The illegals are riddled with legal issues from drugs, rape, to murder. That is fact. Welcome the new age of PC.

The problem with companies like Macy's and Univision, NBC they are in breach of contract and as much as don't really like Trump, on this he's got my full support. He's suing the pants on this and may very well win. Good for him. But as you said, being PC nowadays will cost you your job, life or career.

Trump defined illegals not by the fact they broke immigration laws, but speculated that they are also rapists.

But he's right. The majority of the rapists that were caught and arrested were illegal, so he should just shut up about it to appease the Mexicans and Liberals???

And he was specific to Mexicans. That's trying to define a group by the worst possible potential and people rejected that. It's the same mechanics racists use.

So now he's being punished for telling the truth? Ok, gotcha.

Insert any group in there and technically it's not incorrect since it only takes one rapist. Imagine if I said that Harvard grads were rapists...but I'm sure some of them are good people. Technically I'm not lying but you'd probably ask why I'm going after Harvard grads like that. Breaking an immigration law doesn't mean you are any more or less likely to rape.

So now we are going back to the apples and oranges argument?

Before the World Cup was played in Japan there was a Japanese politician who said Japan needs more doctors to handle all the rape the foreigners would cause during the event.

Unlike Japan, there is NO record of foreigners past or present that are going around raping women.

As a foreigner in Japan it was insulting. I'm sure he could tell me that foreigners have raped before, so...

Yes, it was insulting, but your comparison is weak. Most Mexicans are not rapists, even the majority of illegals, however the majority of the rapists were Mexican illegals.

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From an LA Times (a very liberal newspaper) article back in 2002: 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.

Very true Alphaape. Thanks for pointing that out. Funny thing is, 2015 is not too different.

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Nice to see that he is being hit where it will hurt him most. his ego and thick skin make any critiscism useless but he does love his money.

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Alphaape: From an LA Times (a very liberal newspaper) article back in 2002: 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.

When you do your own research on that statistic you might not like what you find. But then again, doing your own research might not be something you are very interested in. Start with Snopes.com. They have an entire article devoted to the conservative bullshit on this statistic.

Trump has increased his polling to 12%, up from 11%. Conservatives absolutely love to hear this kind of talk of Mexicans raping our women.

bass: But he's right. The majority of the rapists that were caught and arrested were illegal, so he should just shut up about it to appease the Mexicans and Liberals???

Oh I'd love to see your source that says the majority of rapists are illegal aliens.

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Oh I'd love to see your source that says the majority of rapists are illegal aliens

No, you weren't reading my sentence correctly. Let me break it down. The majority of rapes that were committed by ILLEGAL aliens were of Mexican origin.

That is not saying anything incorrectly derogatory about Mexicans in general at all, but this is another reason why we need that border sealed. We are talking about illegals, NOT about the legal and law-abiding Mexicans which are the majority

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Snopes.com......credible! Better do a bit more research than that. Plenty of both liberal and conservative articles on the increase in arrests and violence from illegal immigrants. Stands to reason, they knowingly break the law to enter the USA. What honorable law abiding citizen want to be does that? Look into tax fraud. You might be surprised. Look into illegal drugs....we, that's well known. DUI's are a part of arrests which are non-violent however devastating if they cause injury.

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Sorry bass but Republicans are racist, although I'm sure there are some good ones.

I kind of like my new outlook thanks to Trump. I'd never really thought of defining Republicans that way but technically Im not incorrect.

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From a basic policy standpoint, when you are part of a group in power/majority, you never make disparaging remarks about those that are outnumbered and not in power, you will always be perceived as arrogant or insensitive ….. elementary politics, if Trump is too ignorant to know this fact, where are his speech writers and presidential advisors?? Lord, knows he has enough money to hire the best.

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Actually it's like minded Republican closet rednecks who are doing the spinning on this site.

@ cracaphat: Hard for me to be a redneck since my ancestors were owned by them (and the owners were members of the Democratic party too).

See this is the refuge when one finds that someone they don't agree with is speaking some truth. Throw out the racist card. Let me ask you, do you really think liberal Hillary or even far left Bernie Sanders will really be "down with the people?" If anything, by what we are seeing from their past, they harbor just as many "bigoted" ideas as you think someone like Trump does.

In the stats I brought up, I didn't say that all of the 95% of arrest warrants were for murders in LA in 2002 were Mexican, but that they were illegal aliens. Now putting partisan politics aside, if the majority of illegal aliens in LA county have been documented coming from Mexico and Central America, wouldn't it be accurate to say that based on the illegal population make up in LA county, a large percentage of the arrest warrants would be of Mexican or Hispanic decent. That's just going to be simple math. If you bring this out, why is that being racist? How many H1B (the so called smart workers visas that the tech companies want) visa applicants are coming from Mexico? You may not like Trump, and he may be blunt, but he is speaking the obvious. The ones who can make a living in Mexico are staying, and the poor are being sent out.

At least he is being up front and honest. If you don't like his style then don't vote for him.

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@Superlib,

It seems you are not fond of Trump as a human, which is fine but facts are facts and his statement about illegals committing these crimes isnt racist, its just true. It seems you are the judgmental one considering you have so much dislike but do not know him.

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Macy's may have dumped Trump, but he's now second in the polls begind Jeb Bush. Go figure.

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Second of all candidates. Once some of those candidates are filtered out, I think Trumps scores will put him much further down the list.

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Sorry bass but Republicans are racist, although I'm sure there are some good ones.

Colin Powel, Kevin Jackson, JC Watts, Condolezza Rice, Larry Elder, Ruben Blades, Bobby Jindal, Bruce Willis, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, Geraldo Rivera, Dwayne Johnson and the list goes on..

That was just a few and racially diverse group of Republicans and you are meaning to say without a single shred of evidence that these people are racists? Please don't start digging now....

I kind of like my new outlook thanks to Trump. I'd never really thought of defining Republicans that way but technically Im not incorrect.

Then you must hate Al Sharpton, hypocritical as MSNBC is (and I know for a fact they are) they still keep one of the most derisive and asinine racists around. But he gets to stay. This is why, I have a very low patience threshold when it comes to libs. Their hypocrisy knows NO bounds.

Actually it's like minded Republican closet rednecks who are doing the spinning on this site.

Had no idea, the above mentioned people were all racists, huh...in fact, didn't know they were all supposedly white.

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Bass, I clearly followed up my remark by saying that some of them are good people. That gives me a card to play if you accuse me of anything. I'm just speaking the truth here so why not admire me, too?

I was listening to Sean Hannity today and got a kick out of him justifying to his white audience that nothing was wrong with Trump. But then I thought....aren't conservative, white talk show hosts pain killer addicts? I know Rush Limbaugh had a problem.

But I'm sure some of them are good people.

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Ah, the good old Republican Party and its candidates -- and is if more needed to be said Trump's standing has actually gone UP in the party since his racial outbursts!! That says it all about the people they field, and those they adore, folks.

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He's a racist ! Let's call him for what he is... He still think that Onama is from Africa and born there.

D.T. has a one dimensional mind.

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Trump is a flash in the pan at number 2 right now. It doesn't change the fact Trump was not entirely off target. Southern border illegals have been a crime problem and are currently a crime problem. Nothing racist about it. Unbiased statistics support the truth.

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pointofview: It seems you are not fond of Trump as a human

I got into real estate partly because of him. Not too many high school students read "The Art of the Deal," I'm guessing. After graduating with a degree in real estate development I sent my resume directly to his office. It was rejected, but I got a letter back with the gold TRUMP letters across the top which I still have to this day. And, true story, there's a typo in it. So let's just say I liked him a lot more than other people.

Trump in the political arena has been an absolute embarrassment. His stance on the birther issue was simply a guy with a screw loose chasing conspiracy theories. Even after Obama released the long form he still persists, asking Obama to show us his college application so he can see what race he chose. It's not surprising that the guy who claimed the US President wasn't American is the same guy saying this crap now.

Calling Mexican illegals rapists (although some are good people) during your announcement to run for President is just a bad way to handle things. That, along with his insane birther record and continued harassment of the President, shows he's got some kind of imbalance when dealing with race and culture.

So, naturally, his poll numbers with Republicans are increasing.

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I got into real estate partly because of him. Not too many high school students read "The Art of the Deal," I'm guessing. After graduating with a degree in real estate development I sent my resume directly to his office. It was rejected, but I got a letter back with the gold TRUMP letters across the top which I still have to this day. And, true story, there's a typo in it. So let's just say I liked him a lot more than other people.

Interesting. I'm inclined to agree with your thoughts. As a businessman, I respect him, even if I don't always agree with his decisions. I also read Art of the Deal. But as a politician the guy is a joke. His comments are a joke. The things people like about him - that he's not owned by anyone since he has his own money, and that he is direct instead of dodging comments - are valid things to like. The problem (for him) is that they have exposed his faults and true beliefs. With a better candidate, they would expose the person for being a good candidate. So I suppose we can be thankful that he is the way he is, and hope that someone better will come along, who is like he is.

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From CNN.com:

"If you go to Fusion, you will see a story: About 80% of the women coming in, you know who owns Fusion? Univision! Go to Fusion and pick up the stories on rape. It's unbelievable when you look at what's going on. So all I'm doing is telling the truth," Trump said.

Lemon replied that the press stories are about women being raped, but not about criminals coming across the border.

"Well, somebody's doing the raping, Don! I mean somebody's doing it! Who's doing the raping? Who's doing the raping?" he asked.

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I was listening to Sean Hannity today and got a kick out of him justifying to his white audience that nothing was wrong with Trump.

I don't want him to run, but the anger, the passion, the despair and concern he has for his country is legitimate and the things he says is what a lot of people want their politicians to say and at least he has the guts to speak his mind and not afraid of political correctness and on that, I can't fault the guy.

But then I thought....aren't conservative, white talk show hosts pain killer addicts? I know Rush Limbaugh had a problem.

Rush is not running for office, but if you think that is an indication of being disqualified to run, remember, we had a president that had sex problem, so....

But I'm sure some of them are good people.

Perhaps.

Ah, the good old Republican Party and its candidates -- and is if more needed to be said Trump's standing has actually gone UP in the party since his racial outbursts!! That says it all about the people they field, and those they adore, folks.

I wouldn't laugh, you have on the Dems side a guy that wants to tax the rain, one that is a chronic habitual liar, a socialist....yeah, the last thing I would do is mock the GOP when the Dems have their own clown car slowly stacking up.

Calling Mexican illegals rapists (although some are good people) during your announcement to run for President is just a bad way to handle things.

Sometimes the truth is tough to swallow.

That, along with his insane birther record and continued harassment of the President, shows he's got some kind of imbalance when dealing with race and culture.

As far as the birther issue is concerned, I'm with you, the rest about illegals, the border he's pretty much on point.

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You would never vote for a Birther?

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Could someone please point out where in Trump's speech he said he was speaking of illegals, and not of all Mexicans? I read the transcript, and I don't see anything that showed he was speaking only of illegals.

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I want ot see Macy's and all of the other people who ha dbad mouthed Trump on this issue say something about the illegal Mexican who gunned down an innocent woman in SF at Pier 14 this week. Yes Trump has said something about this tragic incident, but surprise, suprise, all we hear that it was in bad taste.

They don't see it as bad taste that the guy who did the shooting, had been deported from the US 5 times, and was released by the county sheriff just before even though he had his status as an ICE hold person because the city and county of San Francisco are "sanctuary cites" and don't believe in turning over people to ICE because they think it violates their 4th Amendment rights (even though they are not citizens). As a reult, a guy that could have easily been handed over to ICE to be deported (and come back for a 6th time) was just simply let go. Never mind the past deportations for drugs and violence in CA and other states he had racked up.

Not all Mexican illegals are rapist and murderers. The fact that they broke the immigration laws of the US makes them criminals (go and not pay a partking ticket in CA and see what happens to you when you license gets suspended and the fines really begin to rack up), yet we are supposed to just forgive them for breaking our laws. Trump may be silly, and has a self-inflated ego (every really listen to Bill and Hillary and the rest speak? They are the same they just know how to present it better), but he is right on this issue.

RIP to the poor lady who was shot for no apparent reason out on a stroll with her father.

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I want ot see Macy's and all of the other people who ha dbad mouthed Trump on this issue say something about the illegal Mexican who gunned down an innocent woman in SF at Pier 14 this week

First off, I read the transcript of Trump's speech, and nowhere did he say that he was referring only to illegals.

Second, the very definition of racism is applying stereotypes based on the actions of a few, to all members of the group. You seem to be saying that Trump was justified in his comments because this one guy who shot someone.

So to give my comments as someone who badmouthed Trump on this issue:

The illegal who gunned down someone deserves to be punished to the full extent of the law. However, his actions are his own, and I'm not going to condemn Mexicans as a whole because of his actions, nor am I going to say Trump was justified in his racist comments because of this guy's actions. This guy is responsible for his own actions and that's where it ends.

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The illegal who gunned down someone deserves to be punished to the full extent of the law. However, his actions are his own, and I'm not going to condemn Mexicans as a whole because of his actions, nor am I going to say Trump was justified in his racist comments because of this guy's actions. This guy is responsible for his own actions and that's where it ends.

@ Strangeland: Good points, but here is where I see differently. You have a nut white guy shoot up a Black church in SC, and people want to say it was because of the Confederate flag and it should be banned. It wasn't he was just a loser who was off his meds. Not saying I am for the Rebel Flag since those who fought on that side in the Civil War owned my relatives, but what I am saying is that a rebel flag doesn't make all of them want to go gun down innocent Blacks.

To Trump and his opinion and the story I pointed out, that guy shouldn't have been in the USA in the first place. He was deported 5 times and was in jail on charges that should have sent him back to ICE, but the public safety officials were following their orders from their leaders and let him go. This shold not happen. When a shooter shoots up a place, everyone who is anti-gun points out that tougher gun laws are needed. When an illegal who shoots an innocent women gets captured, and we see he has been deported 5 time previously, we don't get the cry for tougher actions against illegals (you do in some cases, but the media and civic leaders will shy away from this point).

Yes his actions are his own, and he deserves to be put to death (ironically that is when Mexico will try to take him back or not extradite him to the USA if he is facing a capital offense since they don't have the death penalty in America), just the same as the white shooter in SC. But, in this case the shooter in San Fran was at that place because of a failure of the public safety and leadership of San Francisco in turning him over to ICE.

Not all illegals are this type of hardened criminal, but they are illegal because they did break US immigraiont law. Not all are from Mexico but this guy was. Sad to say this is not just a "one time" event one could easily look over the internet and find hundreds of stories on how illegals have been charged with bad crimes in the USA, and like it or not Trump is right on this one.

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@ Strangeland: Good points, but here is where I see differently. You have a nut white guy shoot up a Black church in SC, and people want to say it was because of the Confederate flag and it should be banned.

I don't think anyone has said that he shot up the church because of the flag (I haven't seen anyone say that was a cause). Rather, the fact that it was a very racist killing, which brought to light the existence of racist organizations in S. Carolina, and in the ideal of getting rid of racism, people thought that getting rid of a symbol of it was at last some good out of a bad situation.

To Trump and his opinion and the story I pointed out, that guy shouldn't have been in the USA in the first place. He was deported 5 times and was in jail on charges that should have sent him back to ICE, but the public safety officials were following their orders from their leaders and let him go. This shold not happen. When a shooter shoots up a place, everyone who is anti-gun points out that tougher gun laws are needed. When an illegal who shoots an innocent women gets captured, and we see he has been deported 5 time previously, we don't get the cry for tougher actions against illegals

First off, I don't think anyone is going to excuse this guy's actions, or think anything other than that he should be imprisoned, and have the law thrown at him. But what we have to look at is, if all A are B, then does that mean all B are A? By this I mean, you may find a high prevalence of killers/criminals are illegals, but do you find that same high prevalence of illegals are criminals? And like it or not, if America wants to keep cheap produce in walmart, they need illegals who will work for cheap to pick that produce. I watched a documentary a while back on one of the southern states a while back, where the governor had cracked down on illegals, and the farmers could not find people to work their fields. They tried using prisoners, but prisoner's motivation is to spend the day out of jail, not to work hard. They tried offering jobs to homeless - almost all of whom quit in a week, with only one left at the end of a month (and he didn't want to do the job anymore).

Most illegals are people who are impoverished, and are looking for a way to improve their lot, even at the risk of getting arrested in a foreign country, and even though they only get paid peanuts for the work they do, as compared to everyone else. They aren't looking to be criminals, and they aren't looking to hurt anyone.

So it's not as easy as 'all illegals are bad, and all illegals should be immediately removed'. There are consequences to those actions.

Sad to say this is not just a "one time" event one could easily look over the internet and find hundreds of stories on how illegals have been charged with bad crimes in the USA

This is called 'confirmation bias'. If you look for something you are expecting to find, and find it, without also looking for the opposite, you feel as if you've confirmed your bias. I could go and find thousands and thousands of examples of white murderers and criminals on the internet too. If I were biased to believe that all white people are criminals and murderers, this would confirm to me that I was right. But there are many, many more white people who are not criminals or murderers.

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find hundreds of stories on how illegals have been charged with bad crimes in the USA, and like it or not Trump is right on this one.

You guys keep talking around the racist part of his remarks. I've heard this a lot from other conservatives. The end of the talking point is usually, "Why don't you care about border security?" as if the racism part doesn't exist.

Macy's didn't drop Trump because Trump said we need to secure the borders. They dropped him because he said illegal Mexicans are rapists. He said that Mexico is "sending" them to us. He doubled down by talking about rape articles he's read which had nothing to do with illegals, then said, "Someone must be doing all the raping." Just old school white man talk that hurts the GOP brand by reinforcing the belief that they are tone deaf to racism.

It's good to hear some of the GOP candidates stand up to Trump. Bush especially, who has a Mexican wife. He seemed genuinely pissed.

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Trump has been a dumb guy with dumb TV shows. Now he wants to be a dumb guy President. George AWOL Bush already did that trick. So, Trump roles out his dumb guy racism and expects everyone to kss his ss. What a dumb guy.

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