Ex-con who killed 2 firefighters left note on killing plan

"The dead men were identified as police Lt. Michael Chiapperini, 43, the Webster Police Department’s public information officer; and 19-year-old Tomasz Kaczowka -- pronounced ka-CHOV-ka -- also an emergency dispatcher."

Police Chief Gerald Pickering said 62-year-old William Spengler, who served 17 years in prison for the 1980 hammer killing of his grandmother, armed himself with a revolver, a shotgun and a military-style rifle before he set his house on fire to lure first responders into a death trap before dawn on Christmas Eve...left a note saying he wanted to burn down the neighborhood and “do what I like doing best, killing people,”

How is it that my country is arming these kinds of people? It appears that these firearms were not difficult at all for him to get. What measures do the "experts" on guns propose to fix this problem?

I read that Spengler was convicted of "manslaughter" for beating his 92 year-old grandmother to death with a hammer.

In what kind of justice system, does a man who commits such a heinous murder, see the light of another free day?

And yet, the outrage is concerning gun control.

NY state has gun control laws, but like the justice system, it was not effective in stopping this man.

We are all evil in some way but a few of us are inherently so, and proud of it. RIP to the victims and good riddance to this guy. Guns kill more people more easily than any other object available to humans. They allow you to be tens of meters away and still kill dozens efficiently. No other handheld weapon is more lethal.

I should have said: Guns kill more people more easily than any other object available to the average citizen.

Here is a classic case of exchange value trumping use value. Guns and other weapons are such big business in the US, that the industry is eager to sell to law enforcement agents as well as criminals and anyone else. In a humane society, these weapons would not be available, or if some were, the could not be exchanged for profit. At the same time, the prison industry is so eager to make profit offering incarceration services that prisons are full of people who don't need to be there and they let violent people with brain chemical imbalances like this guy out when he should serve life for beating his grandmother. Prisons should be used to protect society from really dangerous people, not for making money.

Hello, pro-gun people where are you? Where are you hiding? This is a perfect topic for you all to make your points. Let me hear, let me hear.

" How is it that my country is arming these kinds of people?"

Your COUNTRY isn't arming these kinds of people. NY, which HAS strict gun control laws, can not prevent criminals, such as this paroled murderer, from performing criminal acts. Criminals live outside of laws, hence the term outlaw.

Please read the Kates - Mauser Harvard Journal report.

Globall,

it runs deeper than politics. It is the basis for our democracy and what makes us free citizens. It was firearms which turned back the repressive British monarchy. It is firearms which keep us a free people today.

I will paraphrase and shorten a very good article I came across:

There are two ways you can inflict your will upon me. You can either convince me through a logical discussion - or you can attempt to use force.

A firearm in my possession removes the second alternative.

This is why the left is so rabidly anti-gun. Its not the dead victims - thousands are murdered every year in our inner cities and liberals could not care less. When the entire liberal machine revved up to its redline over the Travon Martin shooting - there were FORTY shootings and ten dead in Chicago the very same weekend. Where were holder, obama - weird al sharpton? They could not care less.

Your COUNTRY isn't arming these kinds of people. NY, which HAS strict gun control laws, can not prevent criminals, such as this paroled murderer, from performing criminal acts. Criminals live outside of laws, hence the term outlaw.

How did this "outlaw" obtain his weapons? Did he steal them? (Not likely.)

His guns started out as "legal" weapons. The real criminals might appear to be the "legal" gun purchasers in the loop who made it possible for this man to get his guns.

" How did this "outlaw" obtain his weapons? Did he steal them? (Not likely.)"

Black Market provides. Don't you get it? Laws don't stop the lawless.