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Fight over urinating dog got police to Pittsburgh ambush

World Apr. 06, 2009 - 05:50AM JST ( 14 )

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likeitisApr. 06, 2009 - 08:11AM JST

Friends have said Poplawski was concerned about his weapons being seized during Barack Obama’s presidency

I would like thank the righties, including some of this board, for adding that extra little bit of tension to all this.

Yet another nut with a bunch of guns who most probably would never have been licensed to have them if such a system existed and therefore, never could have gotten a legally registered weapon. Just to get one gun and any bullets, if he had to go through the trouble of obtaining them illegally, and keeping them illegally, constantly facing the danger of being narced on by his own mother (note that officers would have been prepared for a gunfight in such a case), then he may have never even bothered, or at least had his guns removed before this happened.

All sympathy to these slain officers and their families. So much sympathy that I yet again decry America's irresponsible gun society that was a major and avoidable factor in getting them slain.
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ebisenApr. 06, 2009 - 09:06AM JST

Oh well - just the normal daylife in USA... I still wonder why do they get in the news - and if they report every similar case happening day-by-day in the USA, the crime section would be completely filled and spilling out. Well, USA still has to come out of the 18th century... Their right to own and USE a gun is stipulated in a constitution written a very long time ago - absolutely primitive.
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LoveUSAApr. 06, 2009 - 09:15AM JST

Every day Americans have a proof that the law allowing people to own guns leads to terrible tragedies but are they too stupid to stop the tragedies?
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SuperLibApr. 06, 2009 - 09:18AM JST

if they report every similar case happening day-by-day in the USA

Yeah, it's pretty hard to get any coverage of shootings in the US.
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buddha4brainsApr. 06, 2009 - 09:35AM JST

The mother told police her son had been stockpiling guns and ammunition “because he believed that as a result of economic collapse, the police were no longer able to protect society,” the affidavit said.

And who fed him that BS? Beck? Rush? Hannity? NRA? Friends? Local gun enthusiasts? Local conspiracy gurus?

Will there be charges for aiding and abetting?
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jeancolmarApr. 06, 2009 - 09:54AM JST

"And who fed him that BS? Probably all of the above. Unfortunately, there are sick people who take the right-wing gun seriously in the US. The NRA especially has a lot to answer for this week as they are the prime lobbyists against gun control.
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paolo27thApr. 06, 2009 - 09:59AM JST

I can already see him defending his actions in court, crying, "because I love this country... ...and I fear for it..."
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likeitisApr. 06, 2009 - 09:59AM JST

buddha4brains: And who fed him that BS?

What BS? The police already cannot protect society. Most of what they do is show a presence and come clean up the mess that their inability to protect allowed to happen. Have a look at the violence in the Katrina aftermath. All it will take is a few bad days and it all comes apart.

The real BS is the thinking that individual clowns with a stockpile of guns is going to be the hero protecting themselves and society. In fact, they are going to be a core problem. Again, look at Katrina.

In such situations, the most important thing is for people to work together. The real heroes will be those who already know their neighbors and won't need a crisis to get out and go meet them. The villians will be those with guns robbing those neighbors. If only guns were not so prevalent, we could avoid such powerful villians.

We can thank all those you mentioned for the misconception and I will add Hollywood to the list.
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cleoApr. 06, 2009 - 10:07AM JST

he believed that as a result of economic collapse, the police were no longer able to protect society

And the obvious remedy to that, according to this would-be saviour of society, is to shoot police officers. That protects society how, big boy?
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IcingDeathApr. 06, 2009 - 11:29AM JST

Amazing what sets some people off. A urinating dog is all it took for this sick bastard to blow away 3 guys just doing their job.
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SargeApr. 06, 2009 - 08:54PM JST

This never would have happened if the dog had urinated in a field or the woods where it's supposed to.
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MadvertsApr. 06, 2009 - 09:31PM JST

"I would like thank the righties, including some of this board, for adding that extra little bit of tension to all this."

So after being presented with the facts that draconian gun laws make gun crime worse last week, you're proceeding to blame this particular slaughter on the JT "righties" for "adding tension"?

Jeez likeitis, the article says this particular nutcase had an argument with his mom over a pooch's territory and then went on to execute police officers, apparently, for simply turning up on the scene.
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likeitisApr. 06, 2009 - 09:56PM JST

Madverts: and then went on to execute police officers, apparently, for simply turning up on the scene.

Operative word being "apparently". We will never know how much of a role his fear of the government taking away his guns played in all this. It could be none, or this whole thing might never have happened without it. Oh, I know you would just love to discount all the things that had been going through this nuts head in the hours, days, and weeks before this event, and isolate it all to just the elements of the argument, but the human mind does not work that way. All those little tensions and stress have their effect. What might be like water off a ducks back one day might hurl you into a temper tantrum the next. Many things cause the different reaction, and no, its not which side of the bed you woke up on that day.

So after being presented with the facts that draconian gun laws make gun crime worse last week,

Its seems you have forgotten that I do not advocate draconian gun laws. I advocate smarter gun control implemented by private organizations.

you're proceeding to blame this particular slaughter on the JT "righties" for "adding tension"?

I did not blame them. I suggested they added to the tension. Whether it was the straw that broke the camel's back or not is not provable. But the talk was no less misguided and totally irresponsible hearsay, fear mongering, and slander.
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MadvertsApr. 06, 2009 - 11:16PM JST

"Whether it was the straw that broke the camel's back or not is not provable"

So why offer claims that have nothong to do with the topic at hand?