2 Cambodian soldiers killed, 5 Thais wounded in border clash

Wednesday 15th October, 02:58 PM JST

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brandnewx at 12:48 PM JST - 16th October

The proof is in: Thai military is caught having systematic lies for Thai people and the world. yesterday They said no Thai soldiers were captured, and Cambodia said they captured 10 Thai soldiers and would return them to Thailand on request, but Thai military refused to back down saying no Thai soldiers were missing. Here it is the picture of truth:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-cambodia03_k8s23onc,0,1338633.photo

To average Thai people, they are being systematically lied to and buy what their military personnel and royals tell them. Thailand needs to reconcile internally. Thais should put an end to the fighting between 'Thai Royal, Military, PAD and Court' vs 'Thai Government and Majority of Thai Voters'. Otherwise, Thai military will keep on being a group of armed gangsters encroaching into other people's house.
Nippon5 at 01:33 PM JST - 16th October

That picture in the LAtimes seems a little wierd since the so called prisoners are not bound and one is holding a walkie talkie... TO me it looks more like a group of people who know each other sitting, but maybe in Cambodia they dont cuff the prisoners and allow them to talk on communication equipment....
FromEurope at 05:42 PM JST - 16th October

temple has almost no value for most thai - sickearth

Maybe not for the most Thai people, but for UNESCO, it's worth a World Heritage site award. Even if the Thai people don't give no value, the world gave the most prestigeous consideration to this archeological site. And that's what count.
Nessie at 01:39 AM JST - 17th October

What kind of a World Heritage? A tribute to humans' long tradition of bone-headed conflict.
Chantra at 10:06 AM JST - 17th October

Nessie, what kind of a World Heritage for Sukhotei and Ayuthaya? Do you know that Thailand took ancient Khmer cities of Sukhotei and Ayuthaya to be protected by the UNESCO?
Chantra at 10:18 AM JST - 17th October

Paulson, my advice to you is to listen to both side Cambodia and Thailand comments, analyze them before speaking out.

Thailand keeps saying Thai soldier patrolling their Thai territory peacefully. Suddenly 3 Thai soldiers blew up themselves losing their legs on the land mine!!!??? If Thai patrolling inside Thailand territory, where those mines coming from????

Cambodia keeps saying Khmer soldier patrolling inside their Cambodia territory too, but why none of Khmer soldier blow up in the land mine????

According to CMAC http://www.cmac.org.kh/index.asp

They did not clear all mines placing by the KR during war in the deep jungle inside Cambodia.

Thailand sent Thai soldiers to occupy the only one Cambodia access called the Eagle Field (Veal Entry) so Cambodia could not bring food supplies and military equipment from the Preah Vihear province to the Preah Vihear temple. Thai soldiers were trespassing by the deep jungle inside Cambodia to avoid been seeing by the Khmer soldiers patrolling, then Boom....Thai soldiers were stepping on the land mines losing their legs because Thai soldiers did not know that there were mines in the deep jungle inside Cambodia.
Chantra at 10:47 AM JST - 17th October

Paulson, Angkor Wat was NEVER a part of Thailand.

When Thailand was a Siam Kingdom, Siam attacked Angkor Wat without warning. Cambodia did not prepare for the Siam attack for over 100 years after Cambodia defeated the Chams. Siam burned Khmer libraries, plundered Khmer treasurers, killed Khmer people, killed Khmer priests and captured Khmer royal dancers and Khmer intellectuals like animals forcing them to teach Siam of Khmer Civilization.

Thai were Siam and Siam were Tai people living in Nanchao, China. Tai people took refugee into Khmer Empire when the Mongol invading Nanchao. Khmers helped Tai people and offered Tai people of Khmer lands, Khmer alphabet, Khmer vowels and Khmer numerals as you can see Khmer alphabet, Khmer vowels and Khmer numerals using by Thais as Thai official language today in Thailand.

Thailand signed the Franco-Siam treaties in exchange Siem Reap, Battembong and Sisophon with other Khmer lands such as Buriram, Surin, Sisaket and a few more...

If Thailand wanted to claim these above lost lands, why not Cambodia claims the whole Thailand back? The whole Thailand was owned by Khmers when Thais were Tai people living in Nanchao, China.

For the past 700 years since Khmers helped Tai people from the Mongol and Khmers helped Siam from the Burmese, Thais never created anything by their own to impress the world, but to destroy Khmers, steal Khmer lands, steal Khmer culture and Khmer temples and claimed belonging to Thais without shame.
thedeath at 10:59 AM JST - 17th October

If Thailand wanted to claim these above lost lands, why not Cambodia claims the whole Thailand back? The whole Thailand was owned by Khmers

i think it is depended on what time period you want to say. if thais use the time period during siam grew incredibly large, thai would be able to claims a lot of place in cambodia.

with the same readion, china can claims a lot of country in asia and europe.

german, UK, France, ... on n on

why not respect what we have now, and stop the hated so call anti-thai, anti-khamer...

narrr i know people will start talking peace, but not without destroy it first!
sickearth at 11:20 AM JST - 17th October

Do you know that Thailand took ancient Khmer cities of Sukhotei and Ayuthaya to be protected by the UNESCO?<

then

When Thailand was a Siam Kingdom, Siam attacked Angkor*<

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kharmer on his fake history class again! I took that from your own post above. Read it and tell me why you said siam kingdom attracted Angkor? Wasn’t it was Ayuthaya kicked Angkor ass? Then why you said that

Do you know that Thailand took ancient Khmer cities of Sukhotei and Ayuthaya to be protected by the UNESCO?<

???

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so it was ancient khmer cities of Sukhotei and Ayuthaya that attracted another ancient Khmer city of Angor? That is the logic you gave out!!!

It like khmer attacting khmer, so why khmer seem so angry about that?!

and what thais had to do in there if Sukhotei and Ayuthaya were khmer ancient cities?

that 2 cities was long been know that it was the thai capital.

it seem like you really want everything from everyone living here, Please take everything you want. If you want it, come and take.
Nessie at 05:51 PM JST - 17th October

Nessie, what kind of a World Heritage for Sukhotei and Ayuthaya?

Apparently one without a sense of humor.

Do you know that Thailand took ancient Khmer cities of Sukhotei and Ayuthaya to be protected by the UNESCO?

I'm not sure what you mean by "take." Sukhotai and Ayuthaya have been Thai for quite some time. No need for Thailand to take them.
Chantra at 10:36 AM JST - 18th October

thedeath, Siam did not grow incredibly large like Khmer Empire and Siam never built anything incredibly at all. All magnificent temples in Thailand are all Khmer temples building by Khmers. When Siam plundered Angkor Wat from Khmers and Siam wanted to introduce to the European that Angkor Wat belonging to Siam, the European refused to accept it and told Siam that Khmers were the creators of Angkor Wat, not Siam people. Even the word Bangkok that Siam wanted to change to Krong Thep, it was refused by the European, because Bangkok is the origin Khmer name means Grass Lake.

Thailand lost land is Nanchao where it became Yuanna in China today. Thais were Tai people living in Nanchao, south of China. The Thai tonal speaking is the Tai tonal speaking group in south of China. Tai people ran away from the Mongol invasion with the empty hand nothing on them. Khmers helped them to found "Muang Tai" in Khmer land even the Thai royal family still writes the world "Muang Thai" on the Thai royal airplane today.

If Paulson want to claim Thailand lost land Siem Reap, Battembong and Sisophon, I want to claim Cambodia lost land Thailand too. Khmer Empire ruled over SEA and Khmer Civilization spread over SEA until Khmers making a mistake by accepting Tai people to live with Khmers because Khmer trusted Tai people so much that Tai people had to betray Khmers and destroyed Khmers. Thais knew that and that’s why Thais never allowed Khmer refugees to live in Thailand because Thais afraid that Khmers would do the same as Thais did>>>> betraying!!!
Chantra at 10:47 AM JST - 18th October

sickearth, remember this >>>> no matter what Tai had changed to Siam and Siam had changed to Thai to manipulate the world, Khmers always call Thai people as "Siam" since the date they ran away from Nanchao into Khmer land for help. Sukhotei was a Khmer City given as a gift from the Khmer King Jayavarman VIII to his Brother to help Tai people founding a Kingdom. In order to have a Kingdom, Tai people must have a language writing system. Preah Rong and other Khmers taught Tai people of Khmer writing system based on Khmer alphabet, Khmer vowels and Khmer numerals. King Ramkamheing was believed a Khmer King Brother Preah Rong who was a Monk. Only a Khmer Monk can read the Khmer script and created the Tai writing system to fit with the Tai tonal speaking. Preah Rong borrowed the Khmer numerals to complete the Tai writing system to be used as Tai official language in Sukhotei. Khmer Sukhotei became Tai Sukhotai and Tai Sukhotai became Thai Sukhothai today.

Ayuthaya was another Khmer City plundering by a Chinese-Tai merchant descendant Ku Chinfa known as U Thong and named himself as Ramathibodi I. He asked China to help him and he was helped by the Chinese Ming Emperor to invade Sukhotai and Angkor Wat. China was behind Ayuthaya providing weapons to attack Angkor Wat without warning. But Khmers came back and kicked Siam out of Angkor Wat and even named a Khmer province as "Siem Reap" means "Khmers crushed Siam like bugs under Khmer feet".
Chantra at 11:09 AM JST - 18th October

Nessie, I am not here for sense of humor, I am here to defend my Khmer people, my Khmer lands and my Khmer property from Thai aggressors.

Sukhotei and Aythaya were built by Khmers, they were the Khmer creation. Unfortunately Ayuthaya was almost destroyed by the Burmese armies. And thanks to the Khmer military that helped kicking the Burmese out of Ayuthaya.

As I said, for the past 700 years, Thais never built, Thais never created by their own Chinese-Tai creation but to rob Khmer lands and Khmer temples and claimed belonging to Thais as we all can see the bloodshed confrontation between Cambodia and Thailand over the Khmer Preah Vihear temple today at the border. Sukhotei and Ayuthaya were the Khmer creation that Thais took them from Khmers and asked the UNESCO for protection. That’s kind of a World Heritage that you questioned. Thais should appreciate Khmer people and the Khmer Kings because of Khmer people and the Khmer Kings that Thailand has beautiful Khmer temples and beautiful Khmer culture in Thailand today. Thailand has enough Khmer lands and Khmer temples in Thailand. Thais need to try living peace with Khmers and stop claiming anything more from Khmers.
Nessie at 08:46 AM JST - 19th October

Sukhotei and Ayuthaya were the Khmer creation that Thais took them from Khmers and asked the UNESCO for protection.

As I said, for the past 700 years, Thais never built, Thais never created by their own Chinese-Tai creation but to rob Khmer lands and Khmer temples and claimed belonging to Thais

Most of the existing temples at Sukhothai were built by Thais after the Thais kicked out their Khmer overlords. So it's not true to say the Thais never built.

Ayuthaya and Sukhothai have been independelty Thai for almost 800 years. They didn't steal these for Unesco registration.
Phala at 06:06 AM JST - 21st October

To: Nessie

Thai aka Siam aka Tai did not steal Sukhotei from Khmers. Sukhotei was a gift from the Khmer King to his Brother. There was no war record founded between the Tai independence and the Khmer Empire armies. Tai people can’t even defend their Nanchao Kingdom from the Mongol invasion, so Tai people can’t fight against huge Khmer Empire armies for Tai independence.

Ayutthaya was destroyed by the Burmese armies in 1767 and the Burmese occupied Ayutthaya. The Siam King took refugee to Odong City asking for the Khmer help. With the Khmer military help that kicked the Burmese out of Ayutthaya. But Thai aka Siam aka Tai never stop their greedy. Every times Thai aka Siam aka Tai think that their country getting better, they invaded Khmer people just like today at the border.

Thais keep changing their ID from Tai to Siam and from Siam to Thai because Thais wanted to hide the truth of their Tai root helping by Khmers.

You said most of the existing temples at Sukhotei were built by Thais, can you name it?