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grammefriday
my heart bleeds for Gingrich - a street fighter alienated from the establishment - excuse me while I laugh myself a river of tears.... go for it Newt, you poor downtrodden hero of the sweaty masses - fighter another one for the gipper, dont let them deny you your rightous place as part of the establishment...... hahahahahha
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SushiSake3
I find it seriously disturbing that the GOP candidates' complete lack of policies isn't causing any ripples among The Right.
Let's face it - in a sane person's world, the lack of concrete policies among politicians aiming for the highest office in the land would have had alarm bells ringing months ago.
In ConservativeLand - not a tinkle.
Nothing.
It's like their bitter hatred of president Obama is so intense they don't even care that their own guys are nothing but suits, who - as has become tiringly typical - have no ideas, no solutions, nothing to offer except lame anti-Obama rhetoric.
And conservatives are lapping if up.
Actually, allow me to correct myself - they're not.
Conservatives are clearly as confused as h*ll, as is clear from from their churn rate of frontrunners - 3 winnersw in 3 races.
The joke just gets funnier. :-)
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SushiSake3
"He {Gingrich] posed himself as the insurgent street-fighter up against the establishment candidate Romney,"
LOL!! Gingrich s more Establishment than Rmoney.
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SushiSake3
Conservatives' stance - if you can call it that - on personal freedoms always makes me laugh.
They'll howl blue murder when the government tries to ram universal healthcare down their throats because - hey - they'd like the right to choose how they manage their health thanks very much!
And yet they'll stand back and cheer when conservative state governments try to pass policies to ram pro-life laws down other people's throats.
But, but....hey, don't women in America have the right to choose how they manage their reproductive health for exactly the same reason that conservatives want the right to manage their health insurance??
Nope, sorry, not in RepubliBizzarroWorld they don't.
Logic need not apply.
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oginome
What a pair of disgusting idiots.
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plasticmonkey
If by stellar we mean changing the topic, bullying the moderator, and delivering untruths in grandiose soundbites.
Notice how the right has always mocked Obama for his rhetorical skills (sometimes via the tiresome 'teleprompter' jokes), complaining that America needs a leader, not someone who just makes speeches. But now when Gingrich the 'great debater' is the act in center ring, the far right can easily overlook the man's history of self-aggrandizing, manic, and unethical behavior. Because Newt can talk. He's considered by these same folks as a great thinker because he continually comes up with new half-baked ideas. Never mind that these ideas rarely come to fruition or that they get dumped when politically expedient (e.g. healthcare, social security, Libya). But they sound good, at least to people who are looking for someone to articulate their own bitterness. Newt's the man for that, I guess.
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Serrano
"Beating Barack Obama has to be the number one mission of the Republican Party"
Well then they had better find another candidate and quick.
"The GOP candidates' complete lack of policies"
Sushi, Google or even the library is your friend.
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skipbeat
Romney seems to be the most likely GOP Presidential candidate. If Gingrich gets another state then it is between Gingrich and Romney.
That can be said for all of Congress and the WH.
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Virtuoso
I agree, and I don't expect any change in the foreseeable future. The US has been bought up lock, stock and barrel by vested interests. I like the way Kurt Vonnegut once described it in one of his early novels -- I think it was God Bless You, Mr. Rosewater -- that when becoming a member of the privileged rich you were given your own straw, entitling you to suck up water from the Money River.
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SushiSake3
As the GOP in-house beat down continues, on behalf of all non-Americans, I would like to thank the Republican party for this year's election prospects.
Never have so few done so little for their country.
Never again will we have to hear "family values" and Republicans in the same sentence.
Newt won SC. LOL!!
Obama by a landslide in November.
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Ben_Jackinoff
You might do well to remember that old expression about counting eggs and expecting chickens.
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pointofview
SushiSake3,
Based on your comments you are definately a Ron Paul supporter at heart.
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Dennis Bauer
lovely like these candidates have the common peoples interests in heart.
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Virtuoso
People often ask why the choice of candidates is so limited. I think an NHK documentary aired last week about politics and religion hit the nail on the head. In its 230-year history, the US has had a total of one non-Protestant (JFK) in the White House (and he did not finish his term). This religious litmus test has virtually ruled out not only Catholics and those from other Christian sects, but potentially capable politicians who might be Jews, Muslims, Hindus or (perish the thought!) nonbelievers. I was astonished that Obama managed to get elected, not because of his own professed religious affiliation, but due to paternal affiliations with Islam. I'd like to make it clear that I have nothing against Protestants, but the changing US demographic out to open the door to believers of other faiths, and the presidency seems to be the only public office where that doesn't seem to have happened yet.
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Laguna
Virtuoso, thank you for your interesting comments; though historically what you claim has much validity, the US has evolved tremendously in recent years. Statistics show that 53 percent of Americans are Protestants, 22 percent Catholics and 8 percent other Christians (e.g., Mormon), and while Protestants remain the majority, it is not nearly as great as it once was; the Protestant's simple numerical domination explains much of their monopoly of the presidency.
I think that Americans would currently accept a Christian president of any denomination (Gingrich is, at least for the moment, Catholic, after all) or even a Jewish president (there was much talk of Liberman before he proved too extreme for the Democrats). Louisiana's Bobby Jindal, of Indian extraction, was once touted as a possible Republican presidential candidate, and the governor of South Carolina (!), Nikki Haley, is also of Indian extraction. It wouldn't even be too far of a stretch to imagine an Islamic president within the next 50 years, though likely of more moderate tradition such as found in India or Southeast Asia.
What Americans do not seem ready to accept, though, is a president from a non-Monotheistic religion or an atheist. Still, I do not entirely abandon hope of seeing a Buddhist president during my lifetime. Times change quickly, and the US with Obama has proven itself surprisingly inclusive.
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Johannes Weber
You cannot call all Protestants the same. The religious fanatics of the US call themselves Protestants. This is absolutely not the same as European variants of Protestantism. The US doesn't have real Protestants from the European point of view. It has Evangelicals, which are fundamentalists like they exist in many other religions.
I am admittedly as afraid of an American Evangelicals as I am of Islamists or one of these scary ultraorthodox Jews in the illegal settlements in Israel. For me, they are all religious fanatics of the same kind, which have nothing in common with the moderate expressions of these faiths which I normally like a lot. Of course, I'll earn the spite of many posters for such a comment.
American Evangelicals have forsaken the core of Christianity a long time ago. Love Your enemies...
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j4p4nFTW
Hopefully Romney can win this and get into office before Obama destroys what's left of America and its relationship with Japan. The Democrat Party is too close to China for comfort, and allows too much Japan bashing in its ranks. When Republicans are in power, the US, Japan and Israel will stand strong!
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Molenir
Heh, theres wishful thinking if I ever heard it. For Americas sake, I certainly hope your wish turns out the way your predictions about the Republican Party turned out.
lol, the definition of extreme for Dems seems to be moderate. No wonder then that the Dems consider every conservative to be a far right wing nutcase. Sorry Laguna, but that comment was just too funny to pass up.
Your comments about Religion, and the US though are very well made. I agree that Demographics account for the current monopoly of Presidents and their religion. I personally would have loved to have seen Bobby Jindal run, though I believe he is Christian, so really doesn't make a good example. Lieberman and Romney however are both good examples of Presidential contenders that are from a non mainstream religion. Who knows what will happen in the future.
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MaboDofuIsSpicy
I give up. Will not vote any more, as I come from the county that had my vote disregarded during the Bush era. Sucked.
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LordPounce
The thought of Newt Gingrich as president of anything chills me to the bone but coming back from the dead twice in this long campaign is an impressive feat so my hat's off to him.
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SushiSake3
I'd like to think that conservatives and their representatives are at least enjoying themselves before their campaigns, eventual nominee and dreams get flushed down the toilet this November.
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SushiSake3
Mittens cannot hold a 10 point lead for 10 days in a small state.
And the GOPers want him to lead the USA with all its problems and issues for 4 years.
Newt cannot go 5 minutes without speaking some falsehood, or worse, tell the truth.
Pretty funny. :-)
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pointofview
Sushisake3,
Are you a Democrat or Independent?
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sailwind
I do hope President Obama no matter who the Republicans nominate, does lower expectations a bit with his campaign promises about creating jobs. He's not doing very well delivering on the ones he has already made at all.
A $38.6 billion loan guarantee program that the Obama administration promised would create or save 65,000 jobs has created just a few thousand jobs two years after it began, government records show.
The program — designed to jump-start the nation’s clean technology industry by giving energy companies access to low-cost, government-backed loans — has directly created 3,545 new, permanent jobs after giving out almost half the allocated amount, according to Energy Department tallies.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-green-tech-program-that-backed-solyndra-struggles-to-create-jobs/2011/09/07/gIQA9Zs3SK_story.html
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unreconstructed
Most of us are still savoring the 2010 blowout. Dem losses were huge, all across the States, The comparison to baseball is apt - - basically, the Democrat Party's minor league was system was nearly destroyed. Or, to put it more precisely, saving Obama's job means the rest of Dems lose theirs.
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unreconstructed
American Christians,as far as I can tell, are the most generous people on the planet. No country gives to charity in the numbers Americans do, and I would wager its 'evangelicals' who lead in trying to alleviate the misery in Africa and elsewhere.
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unreconstructed
Who, exactly, has bought up the country lock, stock and barrel? Got any names for us?
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Ben_Jackinoff
You might just find fewer chickens hatching than you expect.
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Ben_Jackinoff
Just curious, were you as confident in 2000 and 2004?
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unreconstructed
Who, exactly, has bought up the country lock, stock and barrel? Got any names for us?"
So, are you trying to tell us China' installed Obama in the White House? That is the drift of 'virtuoso's' assertion - corporations like, totally own America.
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Madverts
Nah I'm telling you who has bought the US lock stock the nbleedin' lot. As you asked.
I'm sure there's an Obama rant in there somewhere....
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unreconstructed
Whatever. Said it many times - China grows old before it grows rich.
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Madverts
"Whatever". Heh, the partisan shows his true colours, the colossal debt to China shrugged off like a bounced monthly rental cheque.
Is there enough gold to settle the debt old lad? I do wonder.
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unreconstructed
Not shrugged off, just think that China cooks its books with the best of em. The bubble is gonna burst.
Your hero Obama ain't too worried. He's letting China have the oil Canada wanted to sell us.
One of the things I do like about Gingrich is that he constantly talks about how our K-12 education system - owned lock stock and barrel by the Democrat Party - is the bigger problem we have vis-a-vis China; They have failed at least 2 generations of students. School choice is the civil rights issue of our day, and as usual the Dems just want to keep ppl on the plantation.
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Serrano
Sushi: "Newt cannot go 5 minutes without speaking some falsehood"
What lie did he tell?
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Virtuoso
Vested interests: Petroleum, pharmaceuticals, military suppliers, aerospace, insurance, chemicals, agribusiness, automotive, banking, securities, mining, railroads, etc., etc., etc. Each of these own half a dozen members of the House and Senate and spend a quadrillion dollars a year lobbying for influence.
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Laguna
Apparently, the Republican base has grown furious, and the secret behind Newt's success in SC was his ability to channel that anger.
So Mitt, never one to miss a good cover, is also doing his best at displaying his incense. On "Fox News Sunday," he said:
Perhaps the word he was searching for was "piqued," or "perturbed." Perhaps a flat-out declaration along the lines of, "Obama miffs me," or "Marxist Islamic foreign-born usurpers peeve me. Quite so."
As Bush I might have said, mortification is visceral.
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Triumvere
Way to paint with a really broad brush... you must specialize in mural art.
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The Truth Matters
I never dreamed it could get this could get this good for Obama.
Why, you would have to run Cheney to set bar any lower. And watching them destroy one another before President Obama even opens his war chest is delicious.
Romney is a serial flip flopper, elitist who won't release his income taxes because it'll show that he's paying less than the average person plays, which won't fly with the voters and Gingrich is a serial ethics violator who had the temerity to go after someone else for doing exactly what he was doing. He's pure scum. Through and through.
How either of them expect to be president of this great land is beyond me.
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The Truth Matters
I thought you were a libertarian. Now you're a conservative again? You can't even keep track yourself anymore. You are too funny.
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Serrano
"How either of them ( Romney & Gingrich ) expect to be president of this great land is beyond me"
Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! What about Barack Obama? How did he ever expect to be president of this ( incredibly, still ) great land, being as how he had the thinnest resume of any presidential candidate?
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Madverts
"I thought you were a libertarian. Now you're a conservative again? You can't even keep track yourself anymore. You are too funny."
You forgot "registered democrat".
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