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zurcronium
When Stephen Jackson is offering you advice, you know that you have sunk pretty low. Jackson not so long ago shot up downtown Indianapolis.
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numbskull
Nike is taking the high road, unfortunately its not just loyalty but also about money. One out of two. Could be worse.
And the people and the press insist on sticking to the low road. Its worse.
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cracaphat
But of course a few of the players have been taking potshots.Like a commentator said and I agree,golf would be a niche sport if it wasnt for Tiger.The money that has been made by even the stumblebum players is because of him. He did the right thing tho I think his wife forced him to take the hiatus. Come back a sincere,more open,less guarded person and of course WIN.Then he can resurrect his image.I mean if you dont like him,it wouldn't matter if he did a calendar year grand slam.
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numbskull
The dam of jealousy has broken, pure and simple. What will be amusing in the years to come is to note the people who were hard on Tiger that get caught having affairs. I sincerely look forward to those days!
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blvtzpk
I don't why Gillette are passing up this opportunity to get Tige's endorsement:
[Cut to shot of TW rubbing his cleanly shaven face, then saying:] "Gillette: Just the shave you need to please the women in your life." [TW then winks salaciiusly - but in TW cute way - at the camera]
What a money shot! Roll on Superbowl 30 second commercials, and associated advertising revenues!!!
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blvtzpk
That was meant to be 'salaciously.'
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smithinjapan
I can't believe there are people still supporting Woods on this. The cheated on his wife with NUMEROUS partners!
Woods has indeed given the sport a LOT of things, and made it a much more fun, much better sport to take part in (watching or playing), but he deserves to suffer for what he's done. He'll be back, though, and hopefully better than ever (personality-wise as well).
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numbskull
Most people are actually not as supportive as myself. We have people calling others fools for being surprised, and rightly so. We have several pointing out that this whole deal is a nunyu; nunyu business. Then there is myself, who thinks that for some men, this is part and parcel to his greatness. Saying otherswise is like saying the Beatles and Jimmy Hendrix would have been just as great without the drugs. Nope. Not buying it.
In what way do you suggest? Is literally the whole damned world knowing enough? Not enough? Because I think its wayyyyy overkill, and the world should be ashamed, not Tiger.
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GJDailleult
If Tiger had just been a cool, charming ladies man having "affairs" because he couldn't stay away from the temptation, he would have come out of all this with no real damage except for a little embarrassment. But it's the sleaze and the porn-movie lifestyle that the sponsors are going to be running away from, and that is what is going to cost him.
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WilliB
I totally don´t get where this brouhaha comes from. The guy had affairs, so what?
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Madverts
"I totally don´t get where this brouhaha comes from. The guy had affairs, so what?"
I agree, it's hardly breath-taking stuff.
I'm sure his wife was involved in the "accident".
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WilliB
I would understand all this huffing and puffing, if Tiger Woods were, say, a president who used the oval office for hanky-panky. But a sports celebrity, with no other obligations than to hit little balls with a stick and look great? Ridiculous.
But apparently one is bad, and the other is a great scandal. Talk about and upside-down world...
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seijichuudo9sha
"The dam of jealousy has broken, pure and simple."
Its too tragic for words, when the dam of jealousy at last gives way and breaks.
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numbskull
Whether golfer or president, what a man does with his manhood is not the concern of the public. Either he does his job or he doesn't. And if the only way you can determine the quality of his work is by gandering at his sex life, then sir, you are no judge of the quality of a man's work, and should resolve to KEEP SILENT.
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Badsey
Tiger needs better "handlers" -I believe his handlers let him down. Handlers are needed that can baby-sit this guy.
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Sarge
Tiger screwed up, no pun intended.
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dolphingirl
WOW! That's one friggin long article. I can't be bothered to read it so I'm backing away...
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SushiSake3
Having affairs with what looks like up to 10 women outside marriage makes me wonder - how little love and respect does the guy have for his wife and kids?
Unless Tiger Woods is a sex addict, these acts were planned and calculated and as such there is no way he can fall back on 'it was all an accident,' as it very clearly wasn't.
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numbskull
Taking the word of every woman declaring themselves a harlot makes me wonder. Don't tell me you bought into the propaganda that women don't lie?
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sailwind
Unless Tiger Woods is a sex addict, these acts were planned and calculated and as such there is no way he can fall back on 'it was all an accident,' as it very clearly wasn't.
The guy has played a pretty good round of golf, that is how history will judge him. He's pretty virile also but that in the long run who cares.
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yourock
I've no pity for tiger. He deserves all he gets. His 'inner circle' must have known what he was doing, and before this exploded just let him continue. Fire them first. Divorce is expensive and messy for all. Pity his kids.
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WilliB
numbskull:
As long as he does it in private and not at his place of work, during working hours, and with an employee, I fully agree.
Tiger did none of that, they should leave him alone. He got his ticket for running over the fire hydrant, and that should be it.
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Bgood41
Allegedly speaking, it is going to be hard to tame the "tiger" in the "woods".
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ThonTaddeo
I'm dismayed by the fact that Tiger is being raked over the coals for his affairs, yet no one seems interested in his wife's domestic violence. (She attacked him with a golf club!)
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30061015
What went up, came down. With so much puttering around, his driver got the best of him. Tiger's plight is an inDICtment of a sports culture that places way too much emphasis on balls and holes.
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YuriOtani
His affairs are none of our business. it is a family private concern. He is a golfer, not a preacher or President. I note it is mostly Americans attacking him. Where did they stand on President Clinton when his affairs were uncovered? People are such hypocrites, look at that Right Wing Republican Governor of South Carolina the one that bashed President Clinton for his affairs but did a worse thing himself. His sponsors and PGA will regret dumping the Tiger and there is a lot more to the story. No people love to bring a person down. Leave the Tiger alone!
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yabits
Accenture has just dropped Tiger, as announced by the NYT.
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yabits
Not quite. He agreed to sell his name and image to corporate sponsors as a symbol of a high level of excellence, as well as professional integrity. There is a moral lesson here for everyone.
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numbskull
Actually, I think it was private integrity as one's private sex life is by definition, private. Even porn stars have private sex lives. So whose business does it become? Do you think this means the National Enquirer has a right to make what might be false accusations that spark a snowball effect where some truth comes out? Do the people have a right to know EVERYTHING? The ends justifies the means?
There sure is! But we may not agree on what those lessons are. I see: men should choose mistresses with more integrity, mistresses know who they are and participated willingly and should maintain the dignity of silence, we should not support publications that have no shame nor mercy nor even morals.
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yabits
I do not believe that there is a division between private and public integrity. As one seeks out affairs with more and more partners, it sort of flies in the face of the meaning of the word "private." Unless his spouse approved of the other affairs, his conduct represents a form of betrayal.
The victim here is Mrs. Woods. And everyone who banked on Tiger as a person of integrity.
There were some people who caught onto Tiger's actions before this whole thing blew up. Once that happens, you can't keep the news bottled up. It was not the tabloids who compelled Tiger to betray his vows of marriage.
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numbskull
Could you be more specific? What vows did he take exactly?
And what you said still does not mean that journalist have to print. There used to be a time in America where they had the integrity not to. Those days were more sensible on that score.
To Mrs. Woods, perhaps. But that does not mean the town crier has to spill it to everybody.
First, as I have asked, you need to be dead clear about accusing him of having no integrity. This may be an affront to your ideals and vows, but his might not be the same. You need to account for that or be silent. And since I don't think you can account for that, I strongly suggest silence, or else you expose your own lack of integrity on the score of being sure of what you speak.
And I have to ask; does "everyone who banked on his integrity" include the people who bought shoes thinking they were the key to being successful on the golf course like Tiger count too? Are you actually supporting pandering to such idiots to this extent? I don't think they deserve any sort of acknowlegement for any pain they may feel for being so damned gullible.
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yabits
The vows associated with marriage, forsaking all others and all that.
You mean by maintaining the illusion of the person as some kind of cut above the average male? That was a long, long time ago. If you want to be portrayed as a good person, you have to live the life of a good person.
I don't say he has no integrity. But neither can it be said that he is of "rock-solid" integrity either. Tiger has already admitted that he's done things that have damaged his relationship with his family. I accept his word for that and feel confident that he'll work all of this out and get his life back on track.
My life does not place a great deal of importance on Tiger, the game of golf, or any athlete, or tabloids, or products. My attention, however, is drawn to people of character and high integrity. It is also drawn to those placed upon pedestals who end up falling through their own actions.
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numbskull
Name them. Come on Yabits. You do know what "specific" means. You accused a man of breaking a solemn vow. What vow? What were the words? I have been married three times and I don't remember any vow that restricted my sex life to my wife. Even if I had, that does not mean Tiger made the same vow.
Tiger IS a cut above whether anybody likes it or not. And I don't remember any ad campaign using Tiger as a model of marital virtue specifically. Can't even blame the advertisers for people seeing what they want to see.
And not printing sordid details is not a matter of propping up images on the part of people who are "supposed" to be journalists. Its about being a true and responsible journalist. It is not their job to prop up images. And the only time they have any business tearing them down is when its a matter of public import. The chaste image of Tiger created in the minds of the public with the help of his sponsors is NOT a matter of public import.
The article of pure rumor that started this does not help our society. It only helps to corrupt it by making a mockery of the virtues of self-restraint and public responsibility.
I would not take too much stock in statements made to people whose business this most certainly is not.
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Junnama
numbskull, no matter how you want to cut it, adultery is grounds for dissolving a marriage contract.
Additionally, Tiger's not maintaining a clean image is undoubtedly grounds for dissolving his sponsorships agreements.
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numbskull
Sorry Yabits, you did state clearly "to forsake all others". I thought that was more a spiritual thing than a physical one. I always thought God and clergymen of worth aimed higher. If they were talking about sex I should think it would be a good idea to be a tad bit clearer. As stated elsewhere 50 percent of marriages involve some infidelity, and I don't think its very smart to make people make vows that you know are going to get broken half the time and then start screaming "liar!". I also don't think Tiger should be martyred for such a common sin, if in fact, a sin it be.
And we still don't know if Tiger even said those words.
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numbskull
Uh, okay? I don't remember saying anything against those two very true statements, so I can't figure out why you directed those at me as if I did. What is that about?
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yabits
The traditional wedding vows are considered to be as follows: "[Name], do you take [Name] to be your wedded [husband/wife] to live together in marriage. Do you promise to love, comfort, honor and keep [him/her] For better or worse, for richer or poorer, in sickness and in health. And forsaking all others, be faithful only to [him/her] so long as you both shall live?"
Source: http://www.weddingclipart.com/guide/wedding-vows/Traditional-Wedding-Vows.html
For better or worse, this is the idealized view that most people have of the marriage compact, and it especially applies to anyone who is presented as "a cut above" the rest -- on and off the field of play.
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Junnama
"What were the words? I have been married three times and I don't remember any vow that restricted my sex life to my wife"
See the connection yet? If adultery is grounds to dissolve a marriage then it means that it entails breaking the vows of marriage....
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numbskull
What I see is you mixing words handed down by religion with laws handed down by the government. Traditionally, in religion, divorce was not allowable, period. Some churches still do not recognize it, even in cases adultery, so you failed to prove any point.
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Junnama
Err, no, marriage is covered by contract law, the religous element is ceremony....
Moderator: Back on topic please.
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numbskull
Well, it might interest many of you to know that Tiger Woods claims to hold mainly Buddisht beliefs, but does not even claim to be a Buddist really. So why should any sponsor be bothered that an agnostic they had on the payroll was not acting like a Franscican monk? Or was he acting like a Fransciscan monk?
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nandakandamanda
I was married in a Shinto ceremony at a famous Jinja in Kyoto.
There is a saying in at least one Far East country that I have been told repeatedly by my friends from there: you can bang away as much as you like, but be sure to be home by dawn. Also, be sure to give the wife as much as she wants. The wife comes first. If you cannot observe these two Golden Rules, do not play on the side. There were more of them, but I don't want to go off topic.
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WayneRooney10
Numbskull, you are soooo deep,mate.
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sharky1
What kind of wood doesn't float...that's right...Tiger! Rotten wood gets waterlogged and sinks...
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