Thursday February 16, 2012

Obama, Gregg differ over reasons for withdrawing nomination

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    yabits

    I give Obama a lot of credit in picking Senator Gregg, who, had he accepted and been approved by Congress, would have represented the third Republican picked for the new president's cabinet.

    It is unfortunate that Gregg has withdrawn, but I respect his reasons for doing so.

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    adaydream

    I heard his decision explained on CNN and he sounded very sincere. < :-)

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    VOR

    the good thing is that the press is now being forced to talk about the obama administration's attempt to politicize the upcoming census.

    tick tock, less than two years until the mid term election.

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    USAFdude

    tick tock, less than two years until the mid term election.

    LOL! Two years until the Democrats kick the Republicans' asses again. xD

    At least Gregg acknowledged Obama's attempts to reach across the aisle. Wow, a Republican who actually shows gratitude; we should have him bronzed.

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    VOR

    I agree, Gregg is a class act and thats the primary reason he did not think he would fit into the Obama cabinet.

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    Wolfpack

    President Obama has begun to show his highly partisan side since being inauguarted and Gregg was smart to cut and run from this loser of an administration. Obama has no interest in compromising with Republicans except to pick off just enough Liberal RINO's to get his far left agenda through Congress. By not making public the back room dealing on the "porkulus" legislation he has broken yet another promise that he made to the American public. He has also lied by not posting all bills for at least five days before signing them - another promise. I give Gregg credit for trying to cross party lines to serve in an opposition administration but the politicization of the 2010 Census has to have seen as an affont to Gregg.

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    adaydream

    Both of those factors mean there is a premium on counting as many residents as possible. Historically, the groups believed to be most undercounted are inner-city minorities, who tend to vote Democratic.

    So the republicans don't want everybody counted? Who shouldn't be counted? Who should make the decision on who is counted? If the Commerce Dept. isn't counting everybody, shouldn't they be corrected and they count every swinging....? < :-)

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    wuzzademcrat

    Another vote of no confidence.

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    wuzzademcrat

    Can you blame Gregg? Dems have broken their promise to allow the public to view online the 1400 page montrosity they are trying to call stimulus. So much for transparency. They just lie and lie.

    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=30697

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    VOR

    i don't think obama can post it because the democrats are still behind closed doors writing the final package. once it is done they want an immediate vote. how the hell is anybody going to be able to vote on the final bill when no one besides democrats really know what is in it. is this the transparency Obama promised America? Is this the bipartisan spirit in which he cajoled the American people in to voting for him? What we got here are a bunch of flim flam artists fleecing American taxpayers. Two years until the mid term elections. tick tock.

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    USAFdude

    What we got here are a bunch of flim flam artists fleecing American taxpayers.

    No, no, we voted OUT the Republicans, remember? The Americans got rid of the Republican flim flam artists last November, just like we will at the mid term elections two years from now. Can't wait, tick tock!

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    yabits

    i don't think obama can post it because the democrats are still behind closed doors...

    In case you haven't noticed, Congress is the legislative branch of the US government. The president is in the executive branch. At the moment, this is not Obama's bill to post.

    The bill will be posted when it is ready. Compared to the past secretiveness, this new openness is refreshing. It's actually fun to see these Republicans with their undies in a bind about every tiny detail. Truly they are the ones who see a speck in the eye of the other side while there is a beam in their own.

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    WhiteHawk

    Good to see someone in Washington has such class and integrity. No wonder he wasn't going to fit in Obama's administration. I saw in another article, the White House released a statement about being disappointed in Gregg's "change of heart". No, Mr. President, Gregg's heart didn't change, your word did. Gregg stayed true to his heart and principles.

    Hey, this makes the first Obama nominee that didn't have to step down because of an investigation or a skipped tax bill. Still have what, 18 lobbyists? Ah yes, change you believed in.

    Who shouldn't be counted?

    The dead. Nor should they vote. There's no legitimate reason for the census to be directed by Rahm Emmanuel. Period.

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    Tatanka

    Obama's Marxist leanings are now showing their colors. Its all about the census -- control that and you control the vote. The Dems are trying to turn America into a one party dictatorship.

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    USAFdude

    Gregg stayed true to his heart and principles.

    Then why did he accept the nomination in the first place? Typical Republican turncoat.

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    TexasAggie

    citing “irresolvable conflicts” with President Barack Obama

    Sen. Gregg had what Obama's "F Troop" considered a tax problem: He always pays them.

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    sailwind

    Then why did he accept the nomination in the first place?

    He thought Obama was actually more of a centrist than on the far left perhaps? I'm pretty sure he isn't real happy to find out that isn't the case after all, as is a lot of Americans are right now.

    Class act on the Senators part to hold to his principles.

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    USAFdude

    Class act on the Senators part to hold to his principles.

    Translation: good thing we saw his true turncoat colors before he could cause damage.

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    SushiSake3

    Tatanko - "Obama's Marxist leanings are now showing their colors. Its all about the census -- control that and you control the vote."

    LOL!! Gerrymandering, I think, is the term you are looking for. This technique of controlling the vote involves the moving of state boundries to ensure a greater vote in the next election.

    Every party is guilty of it.

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    SushiSake3

    It's best for Americans and the world that Republicans be shut out of the political process for as long as possible.

    They've had their go and we've got a global recession as a result.

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    TexasAggie

    ABC news just reported that the CBO announced that Obama's Maximus Porkulus package will add $3.27 trillion to the debt: almost as much as Bush racked up in 8 years. And it is only three weeks into Obama's term.

    Heckuvajob, democrats.

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    Tatanka

    SushiSake3: Not exactly. In the 2000 Census it was determined that 1 to 2% of the people did not answer the door since they were either to stupid, too old, illegal aliens or criminals (or as I like to call them -- the Democratic Party base) so the Dems want to institute a new system of estimation whereby non-respondents are counted as the general average of the neighborhood. If someone does not answer door in a neighborhood of hispanics (for example) where there are an average of 6 persons in the household, the non-respondent is counted as such...

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    wuzzademcrat

    sushisake: "This technique of controlling the vote involves the moving of state boundries [boundaries] to ensure a greater vote in the next election."

    You are confusing your Aussie "Playmandering" or "Bjelkemandering" with the American style of redistricting known as gerrymandering.

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    adaydream

    http://video1.washingtontimes.com/video/stimuluschart.pdf

    I know there are those who are complaining because they haven't seen the stimulus plan online and complaining about transparancy. The above are the two plans before the congress made their agreement, but you find the basics there.

    Hope I've been of assistance. < :-)

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    GJDailleult

    they were either to stupid, too old, illegal aliens or criminals (or as I like to call them -- the Democratic Party base)

    Hey, that is funny stuff. Here is some more funny stuff for you. Of the top ten states by per capita GDP, nine of them voted for Obama and the Democrats. Of the top twenty 17 voted Democratic. Of the bottom ten states by per capita GDP, nine of them voted for McCain and the Republicans. Of the bottom twenty fifteen of them voted Republican. That's right, the wealthier the state the more likely it voted Democratic, I guess that means wealthy people are more likely to be stupid, too old, illegal aliens or criminals.

    And you don't think these poorer states get something in exchange for supporting the so-called "party of the rich"? You bet they do. So keep whining about pork all you pork-eaters, like I said it is funny stuff.

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    wuzzademcrat

    Gregg signed off because he is also no doubt aware that The porkulus means 300,000 new jobs - for illegal aliens, who will immediately benefit from Dem provisions which will remove E-Verify regulations.Construction companies that will bid on all the massive pork projects the so-called stimulus provides for can hire illegals with no fear of penalties.

    When did Democrats come to loathe ordinary,hard-working Americans this much?

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    wuzzademcrat

    Sen. Gregg pays his taxes.

    He'd be out of place among deadbeat liars like Geithner, Daschle, Nancy Killefer,Charlie Rangel and Rahm Emmanuel.

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    wuzzademcrat

    Video of Charlie Rangel, Ways and Means Committee Chairman, in which he is unable to explain exactly what is in the "stimulus" bill.

    Exactly when did Democrats decide they wanted to destroy the economy that basically powers the the free world's arsenal of democracy?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kHqcpsBBfI&eurl=http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/

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    Nessie

    Video of Charlie Rangel, Ways and Means Committee Chairman, in which he is unable to explain exactly what is in the "stimulus" bill.

    Stimulants, obviously.

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    sailwind

    Saying “I made a mistake,” Republican Sen Judd Gregg of New Hampshire abruptly withdrew as commerce secretary nominee on Thursday and left the fledgling White House suddenly coping with Barack Obama’s third Cabinet withdrawal.

    Kinda like what a lot of Obama voters are also thinking now.

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    yabits

    Construction companies that will bid on all the massive pork projects the so-called stimulus provides for can hire illegals with no fear of penalties.

    You mean these business owners that Republicans think so much of would actually hire illegals?

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    yabits

    Exactly when did Democrats decide they wanted to destroy the economy that basically powers the the free world's arsenal of democracy?

    After experiencing what George W. Bush and Republicans did to pave the way.

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    Madverts

    Wow, the radical right are really whipped into a frenzy...

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    USAFdude

    Madverts, they sure are! Ah, let 'em whine; they've got nothing else to do these days, now that Americans have stopped them from continuing to ruin our great country.

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    wuzzademcrat

    "Obama, Gregg differ over reasons for withdrawing nomination"

    Yeah. No doubt Obama and Gen. Zinni 'differ over reasons' for Obama's thoroughly unprofessional, pathetic flip-flop on his choice of Gen. Zinni to be ambassador to liberated, democratic Iraq.

    "Joining the parade of minor appointment-related slip-ups is the apparent bait-and-switch pulled on retired Gen. Anthony Zinni, reports Politico. Zinni was told he had the job of Iraq ambassador—then the rug got pulled out; critics say this is typical of the Obama administration’s chaotic foreign policy transition."

    http://www.newser.com/story/50116/critics-blast-obamas-zinni-flip-flop.html

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    Taka313

    Madverts,

    Wow, the radical right are really whipped into a frenzy...

    And therein lies the difference between liberals and conservatives.

    Liberals wanted nothing more than for george bush to quit failing.

    Conservatives pray Pres. Obama does.

    Taka

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    wuzzademcrat

    "Liberals wanted nothing more than for george bush to quit failing."

    "Liberals" wanted Bush dead. Forgotten so soon the movies, the novels, the plays, the songs?

    "Conservatives pray Pres. Obama does."

    Reverend Jeremiah Wright ?

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    SushiSake3

    Republicans are yesterday's news.

    America is already over it.

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    USAFdude

    "Liberals" wanted Bush dead. Forgotten so soon the movies, the novels, the plays, the songs?

    You are completely incapable of backing up this pitiful attempt at a "statement". On the other hand, conservative wishes for President Obama to fail, and indeed plotting to bring about his failure (a.k.a. blatant anti-Americanism) are well documented. Try a Google search on the topic and you'll see exactly what I mean.

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    Taka313

    Note:

    My boy, fuzzy wuzzy responded, yet failed to say, "I do not desire Pres. Obama to fail."

    Nope. Nothing of the sort.

    You would think that if there was no truth to my statement, he would have pointed it out.

    Taka

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    Madverts

    "Liberals wanted nothing more than for george bush to quit failing.

    Conservatives pray Pres. Obama does."

    Technically, does that make them un-patriotic?

    Traitors even?

    Heh, and there you have the right-wing extremists in true colours.....they'd rather hope and pray that President Barack Hussein Obama fails in pulling America from the frightening rocks where Bush Co abandoned ship.....

    Fella's - lift them there hands and step into the spotlight.

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    smithinjapan

    Wow... look at the very sad and desperate posts by those on the right with nothing to do but try and lash out. It's really quite sad. But, the American people have spoken and people like wuzza in particular are simply trying to scream so that they can still acknowledge they exist at all. They define themselves by misery, and so they pray for and would feed on any suffering of those who are happy that the US finally has a real president instead of someone who promoted nothing but misery for 8 years.

    They really cannot define their lives without pain and being miserable. I think the 10 or so handles they've all had over the times is pretty much testament to how much they are valued here... the only place where others in their ilk might choose to try and back them up a little.

    Regardless, it's a shame this Republican cowardly ran away from what he enthusiastically accepted earlier, but it's definitely no loss for Democrats. While Obama graciously accepted the man and tried to extend a hand to Republicans, this man tried to take a small bite, and he'll find soon enough that biting the hand that feeds you is no good for your career. Basically, the guy panicked... and when Obama proves even moreso to be a great man he'll regret the decision, and it'll be yet another nail in the studded Republican party coffin.

    It really is quite funny, as has been said, to watch the Righties on here whip themselves into a rabid frenzy. But hey, being so badly handed their a$$es on a plate in November, I guess you can't scold them too much.

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    sailwind

    Gregg said he’d always been a strong fiscal conservative and added: “It really wasn’t a good pick.”

    Nuff said on this one.

    Can I have my bail out now?

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    smithinjapan

    Anyway, Gregg was a bad choice from the beginning... 'nuff said. Time to move on.

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    ca1ic0cat

    In case anybody wants to get over the name calling here is a quote from "The Economist."

    "The bigger blow to Mr Obama comes not so much from the failure of a project that was never, given the nature of politics, really viable. It is that the latest episode contributes to a surprising picture of incompetence that is building up around his presidency. This is the third of his cabinet nominations to go down in flames, and he has also lost the woman whom he had hoped to appoint to the job of chief performance officer to the government. He should additionally count himself extremely lucky that he did not lose his treasury secretary, Tim Geithner, who failed to pay some of his taxes and who would surely not make it through to confirmation if he had to do now rather in the first post-inauguration flush."

    So much for hope and change.

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    WhiteHawk

    Me:

    Gregg stayed true to his heart and principles.

    USAFdude:

    Then why did he accept the nomination in the first place? Typical Republican turncoat.

    Okay, please inform the forum of what exactly changed about Gregg. Try reading the original article before posting this time.

    SushiSake3:

    Republicans are yesterday's news. America is already over it.

    Indeed. Democrats are the politicians in control today. I look forward to their JT supporters placing blame squarely on their shoulders every time they fail.

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    wuzzademcrat

    Obama talks, markets drop.

    Yahoo -

    "U.S. consumers, economists unanimously grim"

    Friday February 13, 2009

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    adaydream

    Reverend Jeremiah Wright ? How does this even come into play here?

    What specifically don't people like with the Stimulus Plan? < :-)

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    adaydream

    QUESTION??

    The republican stimulus plan that was b rought before the house, what was the vote count on it?

    Anybody got that? < :-)

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    adaydream

    I'm just trying to find out if any democrats voted for the republican plan. Any links? < :-)

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