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WASHINGTON — The National Rifle Association on Friday endorsed Donald Trump for U.S. president

Trump sells off another part of his Presidency; a promise to let weapons of mass destruction continue a guaranteed unregulated sale and transfer.

Trump has no problem selling his Presidency for thousands of lives of children. Why should his supporters care? That's why they chose him.

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The NRA’s endorsement of a Republican nominee is no surprise

Which kinda makes this, uh, not news.

“They’ll be unsigned the first hour that I’m in office,” Trump pledged

Is that a pledge? Or a "suggestion"...?

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"Clinton supports “sensible action” to address the issue, including expanding comprehensive background checks, cracking down on illegal gun traffickers, keeping weapons out of the hands of domestic abusers, and repealing an NRA-backed law that shields gun manufacturers and sellers from lawsuits." - article

Only a profit motive and a mental disorder disqualify sensible action.

The NRA lost when they started militarizing America.

Most parents don't want that garbage in their neighborhoods. Adios Muchacho Trump.

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Trump sells off another part of his Presidency; a promise to let weapons of mass destruction continue a guaranteed unregulated sale and transfer.

Oh, you libs are just angry because, that means Hillary is in a lot of trouble with millions of gun owners that don't trust her knowing if she gets elected she will threaten the 2nd amendment with radical changes. Love to see how Hillary will spin this. And all the name calling won't help a bit. Trump's got the NRA vote locked! This is Yuuuge!

Trump has no problem selling his Presidency for thousands of lives of children. Why should his supporters care? That's why they chose him.

Selling the presidency? Even Bernie was hoodwinked out of delegates, his supporters know this, both Trump and Sanders from this campaign so far have experienced a lot of dirty tricks from both parties to do everything in their power to undermine their progress and the popularity they enjoy from their supporters and both parties tried in vain to sabotage that. If anyone is a sellout it's the GOP and DNC.

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Trump has no problem selling his Presidency for thousands of lives of children. Why should his supporters care? That's why they chose him. - as posted

The NRA robo-posters will begin the dance of deceit, again.

America is moving past mass slaughters at the hands of military grade weapons littering their streets.

The NRA has only the blood of children to justify their profits and greed.

And they chose Donald J. Trump, the protector of the children of he rich

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Only a profit motive and a mental disorder disqualify sensible action.

I would expect Dems and the left to make that argument.

The NRA lost when they started militarizing America.

Hmmm. from what it looks like the NRA just won today as well as Trump and with over 6 million registered gun owners, that support is growing. Now it's time for Hillary and Anti-gun liberals to panic.

Most parents don't want that garbage in their neighborhoods. Adios Muchacho Trump.

I would say more like Welcome president Trump

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"the NRA just won today as well as Trump and with over 6 million registered gun owners" - comments

A tiny percentage of a tiny percentage will see Trump as worth the trouble.

It seems more like this comment is supporting the NRA over the safety of the American People.

Typical Trump Thumper Thunker.

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Don't now if GOP members are happy with NRA began bossing Trump.

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“We’re getting rid of gun-free zones, OK? I can tell you,”

Trump's taking an actual stance! Now I know his position on at least one issue. There's a yin-yang to this, as with any issue. For those invested in the arms industries, those manufacturing and selling weaponry, they'll see even greater profits from the increase in gun sales. With more guns in more people's hands in more places, you have to expect an increase in gun related deaths, providing benefits to those in the undertaking business. So at least those two industries will gain during a Trump reign.

The downside, from my perspective of course, will be the increased costs to the general public, to the taxpayers footing the bills for police and emergency response units plus court systems who'll have to deal with the increase in the number of shooting related crimes resulting from more guns in more people's hands. But most gun huggers don't seem to care about that as long as they can own and shoot, shoot, shoot the whole day down. Happiness for them is a warm gun; the only freedom they can list.

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A tiny percentage of a tiny percentage will see Trump as worth the trouble.

I really wouldn't bet on that. Hillary's opposition to guns or limiting gun ownership and forced background checks has proven today that you can't trust her and that opposition is growing and we haven't even touched on the anger coming from the Bernie camp crying foul that the Hillary camp are doing everything possible to suppress and undermine Bernie's popularity and support. Hillary's got a lot on her plate and she can't eat none of it.

It seems more like this comment is supporting the NRA over the safety of the American People.

I am a member and because I value safety, that's why for me, this is great news.

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And of course the NRA doesn't allow people to carry guns at their conventions. They know it isn't safe to have a bunch of ordinary citizens with deadly weapons in their hands. Of course they support letting people carry guns in schools, bars, churches, and stores; but not in NRA conventions. Someone might get shot! What Hypocrites!

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Hillary's opposition to guns or limiting gun ownership and forced background checks has proven today that you can't trust her

Lol. How so?

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Good to see Trump with a concealed carry permit -the problem with that is that some states/cities will not honor it. -Maybe Trump can change the state laws to make concealed carry permits a national permit. Well at least there is always "open carry" -if you don't mind being hassled/molested by some Lib cop.

Trump wears body armor also. -And with these angry and determined anti-Trump communists/globalists you never know when you may need it.

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Poisoned chalice.

Gun loving nuttas were never going to vote for the dems anyway. Trump needs some centrist votes to stand a chance, not to appear more right than he already is.

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Trump wears body armor also. -And with these angry and determined anti-Trump communists/globalists you never know when you may need it.

Kind of amazing how liberals, the party of tolerance and peace can be so violent you have to fear for your life that a person could use deadly force and you have to walk around with body armor for fear of having a different opinion. Democracy is at stake and liberals are threatening that democracy.

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"-Maybe Trump can change the state laws" - comments

Yes, that's what the GOP/Tea has been fighting for, a dictator to tell States what laws they will have.

Poor memory, poor reasoning the hallmark of the Trumper.

Give 'em a gun and they know all the answers.

Comical except for all the dead children.

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" And of course the NRA doesn't allow people to carry guns at their conventions."

Not true. The NRA follows state laws regarding venues.

"The NRA convention is a very large event, with expected attendance in the range of 70,000 to 80,000 persons, and will sprawl multiple venues. At the primary venue, Music City Center, gun owners with proper carry permits can indeed bring their guns with them during the association's convention. However, one of the auxiliary venues, the Bridgestone Arena (which will be hosting an NRA-sponsored concert by country music artist Alan Jackson and comedian Jeff Foxworthy), is a private venue that prohibits the possession of firearms,

Report Advertisement and attendees are bound to follow its regulations when they are in that particular arena. When attendees are at other convention locales, such as the main exhibit hall, they will be free to carry firerms in a manner consistent with state law. "

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He also took aim at President Barack Obama’s executive orders on reducing gun violence issued after December’s San Bernardino shootings, including the plan to crack down on unregulated Internet gun sales.

Firming up the laws on Internet sales sounds like a good idea to me. Not sure why someone would be against that.

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they'll see even greater profits from the increase in gun sales

That's an odd comment, seeing how gun sales skyrocketed under the Obama and B Clinton presidencies. IMO, if lefties and progressives in the US and the world want to get rid of the guns in the US, you have to start at the top. Yes, I'm talking about military and police force grade weapons and weapons systems. I do find it so ironic that SofS Clinton can put together and sell billion dollar packages of weapons, fighters and bombers to Saudi Arabia, currently being used to subjugate Yemen, but she wants to stop a family in the US who may be living in a crime/gang ridden inner city to have the right to buy a hand or shot gun to protect themselves from criminals or gangsters. How do you Hillary and Obama supporters deal with this cognitive dissonance? My guess is you choose to ignore the former since most have been tricked with her forked tongue into believeing she's not a war monger. Her global weapons sales should be enough for any thinking person to realize that she doesn't care so much for innocent people, and that includes US citizens. Subjugating Yemen was a test run for subjugating the citizens of the Untied States of America. I spit on your stilettos Hillary for the lying forked tongue snake you are.

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The Donald and the NRA: perfect together.

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Yes, that's what the GOP/Tea has been fighting for, a dictator to tell States what laws they will have.

I really doubt it. We've had a dictator for 8 years, I think the people want a strong leader that puts the people first.

Give 'em a gun and they know all the answers.

Give them a gun and they can defend themselves. By the way, the secret service shot a man near the White House, who knows what this person wanted or what his intentions were, but it's safe to say, he didn't stop by to say "hello" to the Obama's, imagine what could have happened, good thing the SS had guns to stop that nut.

Comical except for all the dead children.

Why is it that Obama in his home state NEVER talked about the out of control gang violence in a city that has the strictest gun laws? Probably because he has to address the issue of Black on Black violence.

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By the way, the secret service shot a man near the White House, who knows what this person wanted or what his intentions were, but it's safe to say, he didn't stop by to say "hello" to the Obama's, imagine what could have happened, good thing the SS had guns to stop that nut.

The right people having guns is not what people are against. Problem is... the general public is not the right people.

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Trump keeps gaining more and more support. Poll numbers improving for him in all areas. Meanwhile the leftists continue to attempt to sink his ship.

Hillary remains untrustworthy and deservedly so.

The NRA is an organization. Guns that kill people unjustly are controlled by evil individuals. Guns are used daily by millions of people in responsible ways and sometimes in lifesaving ways also. We saw that today in DC.

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Can one President really take people's guns away?

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Can one President really take people's guns away?

Well, let's put it this way, Obama tried to legalize 5 million illegals by executive order.

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"The closely controlled and measured Lake Mead, near Las Vegas, shrunk Wednesday (18/5/16) to its lowest point since Hoover Dam was completed in 1936."

The Republican Party has been wrong on global warming, for thirty years; no surprise, the NRA is wrong about Trump.

An angry hostile world is not what Trump can solve with more angry hostile people carrying guns.

The NRA solution.

NRA/Trump/GOP, gee, a regular three ring circus of fraud and slaughter, or turd sandwich, as the reader may surmise.

Nice Résumé this bunch; Makes Bush/Cheney look like rubes.

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Another reason why I love living in Japan. No crazy gun trotting lunatic gets to kill so many. Keep your freedom to your yourself in the States. We love it here. At least here, the worst will be a knife. Can't maim that many

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Gun rights group NRA endorses Trump for president

Of course.

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Firming up the laws on Internet sales sounds like a good idea to me. Not sure why someone would be against that.

Because then some people who want guns may not be able to get guns. Can't have that.

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Of course they (the NRA) support letting people carry guns in schools, bars, churches, and stores; but not in NRA conventions.

@CrazyJoe

Personally, I am against letting people carry guns in schools, bars, churches and stores, but I'm all for letting people carry guns at all NRA events and offices. That would be great.

I'm particularly for letting people carry guns at Donald Trump rallies, especially now that he has the coveted NRA endorsement.

As it now stands, the taxpayer spends heavily for Trump's secret service squad. I'm all for starting a petition to enable Trump to save the taxpayer some money by replacing his secret service protection with a well-armed Trump-supporter citizen "good guys with guns" militia, in the true spirit of the 2nd Amendment. This would be a great way for NRA/Trumpeters to demonstrate how "guns save lives" (though some might argue that "guns don't save lives, people save lives). Whatever could go wrong?

I wonder if there might be any Trump supporting well-armed militia, unfettered access to gun advocates out there who would like to get this petition started, and get the ball rolling. I'll sign.

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So you're expecting something where the President uses an executive order which results in guns being banned? That's what the fear is?

What I'm saying is, this president has already more than a few occasions where he overstepped his boundaries as commander in chief! He has to be constantly reminded that we have 3 branches of government and we have a congress, I know it means nothing to him what the people or congress think, but this so called adjunct professor should have studied that in law school.

The Republican Party has been wrong on global warming, for thirty years; no surprise, the NRA is wrong about Trump.

So was the country wrong about Obama? Yup! A big disappointing YUP!

An angry hostile world is not what Trump can solve with more angry hostile people carrying guns.

So an angry hostile America should settle for a habitual liar for president, because she's a woman or because it's supposedly her turn at the throne?

The NRA solution.

Make sure that the 2nd Amendment is protected!

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Stateside . . .

Texas Dad Accused Of Killing Stepson, 3, Who Wouldn't Stop Jumping On Bed

"A North Texas man shot and killed his 3-year-old stepson because he was upset the boy was jumping on the bed, authorities said. George Coty Wayman, 18, was arrested on capital murder …"

The NRA has a fine record of success selling guns to those who shouldn't have them.

Donald J. Trump has a fine record of success selling fraud as fact.

No wonder the GOP-tea LOVES the TRUMP!

Fraud as Fact sounds like the unholy tryst of Trump and FOXNews.

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Five Milligan illegal? How many people live in Arizona? Texas? I thought Obama is not elementary school crop out here ?

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"President Obama spoke for me and every American in his remarks in #Newtown Connecticut."

Donald Trump -- 18 December, 2012

Trump is a charlatan. He knows what buttons to push at the right times and to the right crowd. He needs the NRA. It makes up an essential part of a core of hatred, fear, and bullying that marks today's conservative movement.

After the killing of 20 children in Sandy Hook, the Donald favored increased gun control measures. In fact, he consistently held such views until announcing his candidacy for president.

None of this seems to matter to his supporters, who are in the throes of ecstasy just listening to the words they want to hear. Fantasy. To wit, Bass4funk, who not too long ago dismissed Trump supporters as loons. Now he is one.

What scares me about Trump is not necessarily his policy positions, but his willingness to do anything that pleases the lowest common denominator.

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"What scares me about Trump is not necessarily his policy positions, but his willingness to do anything that pleases the lowest common denominator." - comments

Understatement.

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bass: What I'm saying is, this president has already more than a few occasions where he overstepped his boundaries as commander in chief!

Ah, OK. Point made.

For the other people here, is there anything a president can really do on his own to effectively ban guns? Changing the Constitution would take 2/3rds majorities in Congress and 75% of the states. Lots more than just one person.

So where does the fear come from?

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"I really doubt it. We've had a dictator for 8 years, I think the people want a strong leader that puts the people first."

You haven't had a dictator. He thrashed the inane nonsense the GOP put forward in legitimate elections. It was like shooting fish in a barrel with assault weapons.

It's just a pity Obama didn't have the strength to stand up to the filthy NRA. Clinton won't have the guts either. You told us how much you love your guns and your gunshots will be safe no matter wins. The slaughter will continue but it's a necessary price to pay for this sick fetish, right?

Guns are for people with small hands. No wonder the human rubbish that is the NRA supports Trump.

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So if people die by a knife, it's ok?

@bass4funk

Once again, you are completely missing the point, but I do realize it seems obvious to many people, but not to everyone.

If a lunatic were hell bent on ending my life or the lives of as many people as possible in a crowded area, but I had a choice as to whether he/she had a knife or a gun, I think it is fairly obvious what my choice would be given my odds of survival pitted against either weapon.

There is no shortage of knife murders, suicides and accidental killings in the U.S., but for obvious reasons the numbers pale in comparison to those of murders, suicides and accidental killings involving guns.

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I think that you and other liberals are scared out of your wits that Trump could actually make it to the White House.

Well... yes... and that America actually has enough of the type of people who would vote him in.

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I've never seen such polarity in politics & I've been a solid voter for 42 years. Are We as a people Regressing? From all I've watched it's been one schoolyard fight, with the loudest screamers winning. Shameful & Sad.

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When you're being chased by a killer, you stand more chance of surviving if he has a knife instead of a gun. With a gun, your life can be over in 3 seconds.

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"When you're being chased by a killer, you stand more chance of surviving if he has a knife instead of a gun."

Haven't you seen the idiotic action movies where people send a knife spinning through the air and it buries itself into the back of the neck of the bad guy? I'm sure Bass has.

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I think that you and other liberals are scared out of your wits that Trump could actually make it to the White House.

Damn rights we're afraid. I can't think of many things worse for the planet in the next year.

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So where does the fear come from?

Please, don't go there, both sides play to their constituents. For most conservatives they feel and fear and rightfully so that even if the president can't take the guns away, he would try to legislate, most likely by executive order at the minimum to punish the gun sellers and if they are scrutinized or given strict rules on what they can sell or how to sell it or lose their sellers license, many will just get out of the business and that means less gun sellers, less gun sales, less guns, this is the fear that conservatives have and this is something that Obama, Hillary and many in the Democratic party want.

If a lunatic were hell bent on ending my life or the lives of as many people as possible in a crowded area, but I had a choice as to whether he/she had a knife or a gun, I think it is fairly obvious what my choice would be given my odds of survival pitted against either weapon.

For someone who has seen people getting stabbed and died and who has been in a knife fight himself once, I will never submit to that argument.

There is no shortage of knife murders, suicides and accidental killings in the U.S., but for obvious reasons the numbers pale in comparison to those of murders, suicides and accidental killings involving guns.

And there are plenty of stats and stories of people that wouldn't be here or have survived assaults and attacks because they had a gun.

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Why on earth the NRA isn considered a terrorist organization I'll never know! Clearly the organization is chock FULL of real NUT JOBS...................insane!

And I am not anti-gun, where I come from if you educate yourself & pass a few tests your able to acquire rifles for hunting, target shooting, no need for hand guns & assault rifles or that non-sense!

The US has got the gun thing down horribly wrong & too many pay the price for it, will the nutters ever learn! Best of luck to the sensible people of the US you have a real uphill battle on this one!

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Why on earth the NRA isn considered a terrorist organization I'll never know! Clearly the organization is chock FULL of real NUT JOBS...................insane!

Anyone that calls a gun owner or gun supporter a NUT JOB as for myself, I wear that with a badge of honor!

And I am not anti-gun, where I come from if you educate yourself & pass a few tests your able to acquire rifles for hunting, target shooting, no need for hand guns & assault rifles or that non-sense!

That is your personal opinion. I disagree, that's my opinion.

The US has got the gun thing down horribly wrong & too many pay the price for it, will the nutters ever learn! Best of luck to the sensible people of the US you have a real uphill battle on this one!

I think we already have tough gun laws, it's just if liberals would get out of the way of individual owners we would be in a lot better shape, go after the knife holders or towel holders that want to strangle people or the chicken wire or how about the occasional baseball bat? This is a losing argument!

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Bass,

After reading your response no bloody wonder the US has so many out there shooting people up all over the place, you seriously think all you need is the $$ to buy a gun & you should be able to..........that's the definition of nuts, insane etc.

And I say that as one who handled a few rifles in my younger days & know many RESPONSIBLE owners of fire arms & ammunition, none of the insanity that pervades the US!

Sensible common sense could do wonders for the US on gun ownership, but then you might not be allowed to own, that's gotta hurt, make you worried I bet!

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"After reading your response no bloody wonder the US has so many out there shooting people up all over the place, you seriously think all you need is the $$ to buy a gun & you should be able to..........that's the definition of nuts, insane etc."

Love can make people insane. It's just a pity this isn't about star-crossed lovers. It's about degenerate people loving devices designed to kill people.

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If guns in the USA had mandatory registration there would be less gun crime. Guns for hunting are dangerous too. But since these guns have to be registered there are virtually no problems. This confirms that the USA needs gun registration and the government has to be aware of who has guns.

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This confirms that the USA needs gun registration and the government has to be aware of who has guns.

I paid the fees, submitted the mandatory FBI live scans, DOJ / NCIS clearance, waited the 10-day periodand have legally acquired a few firearms. Plus I vote & pay taxes. I do not commit crimes.

I suggest the crips / bloods and armed illegals get with the program too.

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I suggest the crips / bloods and armed illegals get with the program too.

Go registration. Darn right!

And imagine if the few crazies in japan could get a semi auto in this country as easily as you could in the USA. Those mass knife attacks that happen once in a while would be something a lot worse. Regular guns deaths down. Mass shootings up. Good point for registration.

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@kcjapan: what all the dead children? You conveniently didn't mention Chicago where most of the shootings black on black. I guess you also have amnesia when it comes to Aurora, Colorado or Sandy Hook or Fort Hood or San Bernadino. If any of these victims were armed the outcome would have been much different.

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Making a great America, one senseless shooting at a time.

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This issue alone will propel Trump to the presidency.

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If any of these victims were armed the outcome would have been much different.

Yeah, a few dozen armed people in a dark theater in a shootout would have obviously resulted in fewer deaths.

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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/20/shooting-reported-near-white-house/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS

Gun incident yesterday outside the White House. Without the Secret Service there who knows how much damage this gun toting Lib could have done. A lot of these Libs are on medication (synthetics) and are not in a healthy state. May God speed them.

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This issue alone will propel Trump to the presidency.

If so, it says much about the endpoint of American society. The right, the privilege, to kill in what you believe to be the ever-widening criteria for 'self-defense' trumps all. Me, me, me. Conservatives talk a lot about the culture of dependence among the poor, as if being so is such a luxury. The real selfishness is a cultural mindset (and I think think this cuts across partisan lines) that ignores public interest and cooperation. People in gated communities, people shut off from one another.

The right mock Obama's record as a community organizer, but that's where it's at. Community is what's lacking.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/in-virginia-felon-voting-rights-mean-a-simpler-path-to-gun-ownership/2016/05/20/5980101e-1e92-11e6-8c7b-6931e66333e7_story.html?hpid=hp_local-news_felonguns-1027pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

At one time if you were a felon (Bill Clinton et al) you were not allowed to own firearms. Now with the Democrat "get the felons voting" campaign these people can legally get firearms.

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@kabuki, bass, wc, et al.

Ya'll are nuts. If guns make us safe, why the hell all the crime? We have one of the highest gun ownership rates in the developed world, yet sadly this is not true. Yemen, yes, that Yemen, actually has a lower murder rate than the US. Is this what we mean by 'American Exceptionalism'?

I think we already have tough gun laws, it's just if liberals would get out of the way of individual owners we would be in a lot better shape, go after the knife holders or towel holders that want to strangle people or the chicken wire or how about the occasional baseball bat? This is a losing argument!

Yes, Bass, what you post is indeed a nonsensical, losing argument. No one is saying we can get rid of all crime. We certainly could reduce crime to almost zero, but in doing so, Americans would lose a great deal of the rights and liberties we all enjoy. What we (gun control advocates) are calling for is common sense. Guns do not save lives. Well, a few, but that is far disproportionate to the amount of lives guns take.

Bonus question: Where does the vast majority of NRA's funding come from?

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God help America (well, someone help America please, as I don't believe in God!).

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Hmm. Back in 2000, Trump wrote, “I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I also support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun.” Sounds somewhat similar to Hillary's position. As for his "plan" (to the extent that Trump has plans as opposed to simply regurgitating whatever thought crosses his mind) to eliminate gun-free zones, he could start without even being president by allowing guns on several of his properties from which rhey are currently banned, including his home-base in Florida, Mar-a-Lago.

This issue alone will propel Trump to the presidency.

Kabuki, I agree that it will be pivotal, though not in the way you might like. Of importance is Trump's recent promise to eliminate gun-free zones even at schools. Now, not only would that require an act of Congress, it also runs against the Republican penchant for Federalism, i.e., letting the state's decide. I can think of numerous states which would vehemently object to the Federal government regulating their state to such an extent.

Take it all with a grain of salt, though - he'll likely insist in the near future that it was all just a "suggestion." For a vast number of voters, though, the idea of guns on campus is a definite turn-off.

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this gun toting Lib

No, he's a Conservative because he was targeting a Liberal WH. If it was a Republican in the WH then I might agree with you.

It's so amazing some of the posters on this board- their happiness depends on being able to own a gun- no gun no life they say. But at the same time they are willing to live in Japan - a country where no guns are allowed unless you hunt and you follow very strict registration rules. If my happiness depended on simply being able to own a gun and have it on me 24/7 everywhere I go I sure would not move to Japan. Question for the paranoid 2A people- why come to Japan, a land with no guns?

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Trump did not plan to shift attention away from Times article attention away but people are now concentrating on NRA related stories.

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This is not topic about Trump anymore. Is this because complainers are people never attended NRA convention?

Trump made speech for Hispanic people and really serious to reach Hispanic voters. So the CNBC channel let viewers see Him speaking and we could hear his speech.

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The argument that the NRA does not allow guns at their convention due to venue rules makes no sense. Surely there are facilities which do allow weapons - and even if they normally do not, certainly the clout the NRA wields could allow for an exception. And yet, year in and year out, they hold their convention in gun-free zones. Hypocrites and cowards.

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Not if Trump's president. Will you try to get your American citizenship back if Trump wins? But if Clinton wins then you can safely stay in Japan and enjoy universal healthcare. And if you go back to the USA you can get a gun again.

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At NRA convention. Some gun makers display their products. Not just guns but protection gears in their booth. I don't go but that what people who are convention freaks explained.

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The NRA is totally and utterly insignificant. The only people in the world LOONY enough and VIOLENT enough to want guns in their society are the Americans.

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bass: For most conservatives they feel and fear and rightfully so that even if the president can't take the guns away, he would try to legislate, most likely by executive order at the minimum to punish the gun sellers and if they are scrutinized or given strict rules on what they can sell or how to sell it or lose their sellers license,

Ah, so like what conservatives are doing with abortion clinics. Those laws will be put to the test with an expected Supreme Court ruling involving laws in Texas. Most expect the laws to be struck down, so I wouldn't worry too much.

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"Yup, that's exactly the liberal thought process, me first, I'm smart, you are dumb and you need to follow me, because I'm a Harvard graduate"

Strange words from a man working for an elitist newspaper. You must sense the snobbery coming from this newspaper and its disdain for the 'dumb'. I know Fox News loves to attack it.

Do you think The Washington Post has this approach or have I misread it?

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Ah, so like what conservatives are doing with abortion clinics.

Gee, you make it seem like conservatives are bombing abortion clinics every single day

Those laws will be put to the test with an expected Supreme Court ruling involving laws in Texas. Most expect the laws to be struck down, so I wouldn't worry too much.

Hmmmm....

Strange words from a man working for an elitist newspaper. You must sense the snobbery coming from this newspaper and its disdain for the 'dumb'. I know Fox News loves to attack it.

Lol, you and Fox news!

Do you think The Washington Post has this approach or have I misread it?

I don't speak for the entire paper, I speak for myself.

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@change: we all are writing about Trump and NRA and you are writing about Japanese bathrooms in Japan. If you like to use transgender bathroom, there is one article that youncan write your frustration. Here, people write gun related stories and no one sounded your kind of gender. It is in World article for you.

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The only people in the world LOONY enough and VIOLENT enough to want guns in their society are the Americans.

Not so. There are plenty of people in my country that would like to have guns. That's why we make them very difficult to own.

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Some people have guns for protections and seven eleven type stores.owners keep guns to shoot buck gun using robbers. If knife using robbers invade houses and the house owner lady shoot, people support her, not robbers.

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"Anyone that calls a gun owner or gun supporter a NUT JOB as for myself, I wear that with a badge of honor!" - comments

And, again, the psychology of the NRA nutters is the most interesting part.

"Badge of Honor" or "Nut Job" over a gun? How pathetic. How needy. How insecure can these people be? Delusions of grandeur, guns blazing they save the world from evil doers, just like their gun messiah Donald J. Trump, draft dodger.

This fetish is so implanted in the psychology, that a threat to the "gun" threatens the very "person-ness" of the afflicted NRA mind set driving fits of paranoia and racist rage. Debilitating in social interactions at the very least is expected. Sad.

Trump has courted these creators of slaughter for cash. Trump claims he conceal carries and has also claimed he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and not lose a vote.

The NRA is just doing what the rest of the GOP-tea is doing; betting on Trump to rape the US Treasury like Bush/Cheney did. It's a business model, just not a very good one, but Trump is just the man to carry out the plan.

That the paranoia sold as a "Badge of Honor" from the NRA to Trump supporters is in fact an armed threat against democracy and public safety. That gun nuts love Trump only makes Trump that much more detestable.

Trump was offering to pay for his followers legal bills when they assaulted protesters. How many children's funerals is Mr. Trump willing to pay for to get to the White House? That's some "Badge of Honor" Donald J. Trump wants to wear.

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The only people in the world LOONY enough and VIOLENT enough to want guns in their society are the Americans.

Absolutely not true, people all over the world want guns. Think about it, the reason so many countries have so many different gun laws is precisely because the people in those countries want guns, and the various governments want to control their access to them. Gun laws exist because people want guns, and that desire is pretty much universal around the world. Look at all the hoops a Brit must to jump through to buy a gun (it is very difficult) yet every year people do it. There are millions of gun owners in Britain. If you meet the requirements and go through a long and arduous process, you can even purchase a gun in Japan. In fact there are hundreds of thousands of privately owned firearms in Japan. No matter how restrictive gun laws are (short of an all out ban) people will go through the wringer to get one.

It really boils down to, the level of trust and confidence the specific government has in its citizenry.

BTW North Korea imposes and absolute ban on any and all private firearm ownership.

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Actually Kuya 808, you raise a good point. You can get guns in almost any country in the world, and perhaps with the exception of a few South American countries, none of them have the rates of gun violence that America has. Why is it that we hear so many stories of innocent Americans being murdered at the hands of someone with a gun? Is it the gung ho nature? Maybe the responsible gun owners really aren't as responsible as what they are made out to be. Those that feel insecure enough to "need a gun for protection" are part of the problem, not any kind of a solution.

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Trump has tweeted out a graphic with fake crime statistics that say 81% of white homicide victims were “killed by blacks”. FBI crime data shows that the majority of homicide victims, white or black, are killed by offenders of their own race, and conservative TV host Bill O’Reilly asked Trump about the “totally wrong” statistics last year.

“I retweeted somebody that was supposedly an expert,” Trump said. “Am I gonna check every statistic?”

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/21/trump-clinton-gun-control-policies-race-policing

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"Badge of Honor" or "Nut Job" over a gun? How pathetic.

Badge of honor:-despite all the radical lefts insults, doesn't bother me or other gun owners and I could care less what they think. Nut job: Another empty insult from most liberals which basically has no meaning, but just bloviated rhetoric.

How needy. How insecure can these people be?

If you lived in cities like Compton, Watts, East L.A., Chicago etc, are poor and have NO CHOICE but to reside in these cities, I'll you what, if you don't have a gun, you are just asking for something to happen.

Delusions of grandeur, guns blazing they save the world from evil doers, just like their gun messiah Donald J. Trump, draft dodger.

Well, Bill Clinton was a draft dodger as well don't forget that, but seriously, none of these people are out to save the world, they just want to have the right and the option to be able to defend themselves.

This fetish is so implanted in the psychology, that a threat to the "gun" threatens the very "person-ness" of the afflicted NRA mind set driving fits of paranoia and racist rage. Debilitating in social interactions at the very least is expected. Sad.

Sure, and the same goes for the left that psychology fear the right will threaten issues that are very dear to them, both sides play this game.

The NRA is just doing what the rest of the GOP-tea is doing; betting on Trump to rape the US Treasury like Bush/Cheney did.

Obama already did that and he's printing more money on top of that! Maybe that's why he doesn't care about the National debt.

That the paranoia sold as a "Badge of Honor" from the NRA to Trump supporters is in fact an armed threat against democracy and public safety. That gun nuts love Trump only makes Trump that much more detestable.

After that statement, I truly believe it's the left that is swimming in deep fear.

Trump was offering to pay for his followers legal bills when they assaulted protesters. How many children's funerals is Mr. Trump willing to pay for to get to the White House? That's some "Badge of Honor" Donald J. Trump wants to wear.

Obama as the president and as a Black man has more power to influence Black youths, especially in city areas where Black on Black crime is out of control and where the murder rates are off the charts. Did he do anything about it, did he make a effort to make a difference to these kids that are killing each other? No, he didn't! But Obama loves to demonize and politicize this issue every single time for his own political benefit.

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“I retweeted somebody that was supposedly an expert,” Trump said. “Am I gonna check every statistic?”

Apparently he's not going to. But he should.

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“I retweeted somebody that was supposedly an expert,” Trump said. “Am I gonna check every statistic?”

"Apparently he's not going to. But he should." - comments

Why?

As long as Trump's tweets confirm basic ignorance and prejudice, no Trumper cares if they are true or false.

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As long as Trump's tweets confirm basic ignorance and prejudice, no Trumper cares if they are true or false.

It's only ignorance and prejudice if an individual perceives it to be so.

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did he make a effort to make a difference to these kids that are killing each other?

Yes, he wants universal background checks and the black adult parents not to be in prison who really don't deserve to be- to me that is black lives matter

It's a good start but the NRA doesn't want these stricter gun policies. Registration also works. How many hunting guns in Japan are used for murders? I can't think of any since they are strictly regulated.

Again, it's just so funny that the paranoid NRA members are willing to meet in a gun free zone for their conventions. What if there is a dangerous liberal with a gun there? Also, these same NRA members are willing to come to an entire gun free country (Japan). They then trash the liberals on gun grabbing and bad Obama government care then they gladly live in a country that has both. In other words, they are fine with no guns and government healthcare once they are in that universal zone. In fact (to American NRA members in Japan) if you come to Japan with your gun it will be both grabbed AND you will be put in jail (but you will still receive government healthcare while in jail or otherwise). This proves that once the USA has both universal Medicare and universal background checks/registration they will be fine with it. They are worried about nothing.

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It's only ignorance and prejudice if an individual perceives it to be so.

No, it's ignorance and/or prejudice if it's ignorant or prejudicial. These aren't determined by opinion.

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We are two countries thankfully! What works in Japan won't necessarily work in the US and vice versa. They have their laws and we have ours. I'm fine with ours and if you live in Japan, be fine with theirs and live by them.

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Gee, you make it seem like conservatives are bombing abortion clinics every single day

Agree with bass. On the other hand, the crips / bloods and other gang bangers are shooting each other up every weekend. Last weekend there were 4 killed within a 36 hr period in Compton.

http://ktla.com/2016/05/16/4-killed-1-injured-in-series-of-shootings-over-the-weekend-in-compton/

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Your badge of honor will put you in jail. Really, it's a joke. Obama wants to reduce the problems in the black community with univ. checks and not sending the poor (often minority) to prison just because they are unable to pay court fees. They can then be with their kids more and their kids will more likely stay out of trouble and gangs.

On the other hand, the crips / bloods and other gang bangers are shooting each other up every weekend. Univ. checks will reduce this and Obama wants this along with the parents of these kids to be OUT of jail when they really don't deserve to be. Obama is a great president. He is just working with worthless people who don't want to cooperate. Go Obama! (in the third term). Trump wants to raise taxes significantly. Obama never did. Trump is a socialist.

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Obama is a great president.

Why cause he's a gun basher? Perhaps he should go to Compton and "give a speech." Maybe those animals will listen-up and git their act together.

Go to rich Orange County (R) neighborhoods . . . .there never any drive-by shootings there.

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Why cause he's a gun basher?

Not much of a basher, he's actually quite in the middle on this topic.

He's a great president because of all the great things he's done.

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he's actually quite in the middle on this topic.

Ohh that's right. He loves to shoot trap n' skeet @Camp David on the weekends. Sanders and Clinton are big-time anti-guns though.

After radical islam struck in San Bernardino, they quickly slammed guns. Trump did the opposite. First he commended Law Enforcement, then he slammed Tashfeen Malik, her hubby, immigration, intelligence community and "radical islam."

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go to Compton and "give a speech." Maybe those animals will listen-up and git their act together.

You calling people in Compton animals?

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Agree with bass. On the other hand, the crips / bloods and other gang bangers are shooting each other up every weekend. Last weekend there were 4 killed within a 36 hr period in Compton.

Good point. Now imagine if you live in gang country. I know it all too well, been there enough times. If you live in cities like Compton, not owning a gun would be suicidal. If someone breaks into your home and you are not armed, the chances of you being a victim of robbery or violence is very high and often the response time for police to arrive is over 20-30 minutes. You would b nuts NOT t have a firearm!

You calling people in Compton animals.

"Sigh" you libs. I'm not even going to be baited on that one.

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No, it's ignorance and/or prejudice if it's ignorant or prejudicial. These aren't determined by opinion.

Oh come on,of course they are. Take just about any subject you can think of and dig around enough, you will find people who represent polar opposite opinions on that subject. When you get into the polar regions of opinion you will ,more often or not, find people that believe the other side is completely ignorant and judge them based solely on that opinion. If you perceive someone as ignorant, the basis of that perception is an opinion on what "ignorant" means to you. Just about everything in the realm of human social behavior is based on opinions.

The only area of human endeavor that is truly subjective is math. But that's just my opinion.

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Your badge of honor will put you in jail. Really, it's a joke.

Not if it's self-defense

Obama wants to reduce the problems in the black community with univ. checks and not sending the poor (often minority) to prison just because they are unable to pay court fees.

Baloney! The anointed one had over 7 years to speak to the Black youth in the urban cities that are besieged with gun violence, pound it into them repetitively and he's NEVER done that! Obama could care less what happens in the Black community, the man only cares about winning elections and that's it!

They can then be with their kids more and their kids will more likely stay out of trouble and gangs.

Or if Obama would have focused on creating higher wage jobs, better employment opportunities the problems would rectify themselves, but then again, we are talking about one of the worst presidents since Carter Wilson.

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The only area of human endeavor that is truly subjective is math.

I really have to edit that. What I meant to say was; The only area of human endeavor that isn't purely subjective is Math.

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You calling people in Compton animals?

The murders, muggers, drug dealers, human trafficers ~"YES"

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Good one! LOL

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Good one! LOL

Hello bass4funk!! Yeah . . . . sum of these people need to wear the shoe. Of course there are a some (perhaps many) well-educated and honest people in places like "Compton" CA . . . .

Too bad they're not making the headlines each weekend like the animals are.

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Hello bass4funk!! Yeah . . . . sum of these people need to wear the shoe. Of course there are a some (perhaps many) well-educated and honest people in places like "Compton" CA . . . .

You can extend that comment to all of America.

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You can extend that comment to all of America.

Incidental. I'm talking about Compton, Ferguson, Detroit, Chi etc . . . where animals shoot each other up each weekend. I'm trying to articulate the point: It happens "there" more than other communities. Black male adults are more "likely" to kill other Black male adults. They're also more likely to end up in prison.

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I'm talking about Compton, Ferguson, Detroit, Chi etc . . . where animals shoot each other up each weekend.

And I'm talking about America, where animals shoot each other up every day. It happens more there than other countries. Americans are more likely to kill other Americans. They're also more likely to end up in prison.

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Incidental. I'm talking about Compton, Ferguson, Detroit, Chi etc . . . where animals shoot each other up each weekend. I'm trying to articulate the point: It happens "there" more than other communities. Black male adults are more "likely" to kill other Black male adults. They're also more likely to end up in prison.

What a lot of snobbish liberal elites don't know the first about how many of these people live and what their communities are like. These people wouldn't last a week in some of the most violent gang infested cities where killing is a normal occurrence, sad that it is, but you either live in a house baracated with iron bars. None of these people grew up with Crips or Bloods, 18th St. Or MS 13! I've been around these people and in these neighborhoods and it's sad that many innocent people have to die daily, but for many of these people, living without a firearm is not an option.

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Not if it's self-defense

In Japan. Since you are a Japanese citizen and even vote here you well know you cannot have a gun even for self defense. Your badge of honor will get you arrested in Japan.

Obama is a great president. He is doing things like reorganizing the criminal system so people who really don't deserve to be in prison. Lower taxes with Obama and which Republican presidential candidate will raise taxes and increase the amount of public healthcare?

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In Japan. Since you are a Japanese citizen

I'm American.

Obama is a great president.

Who will thankfully be out of office very soon. There will be celebrations of his departure.

He is doing things like reorganizing the criminal system so people who really don't deserve to be in prison. Lower taxes with Obama and which Republican presidential candidate will raise taxes and increase the amount of public healthcare.

What a laughable joke! Obama didn't do anything, especially when it comes to inner city crime.

http://crime.chicagotribune.com/chicago/homicides

But why should he care, he never did and he's out soon, so lay it on the next presidents lap.

How insightful. I stand corrected. In three words

That Democrats, Obama and progressive liberals way off the mark, particularly when it comes to this issue?

Well, not just not ever, but quite a few times. You can check on it. You're a journalist, but you seem to spend a good deal more of your precious time pontificating than searching for the truth. For starters, Obama's speech at Morehouse College in 2013

Yes, I remember that one incident and? So one time makes it ok? One time is enough to cover his plea to the Black youths to stop killing themselves? Sorry, but that's not going to fly. Even über liber Maxine Waters from my home state, full on liberal Democrat chastised Obama for not doing enough for the Black community.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbc-member-maxine-waters-reacts-to-obama-were-not-complaining/

The point is whether we are talking about poverty or guns, Obama has not enough for his own people, it's easier for him to have scapegoat and guns are the hot button issue for them, so if he can deflect the harsh criticism directed towards him and redirect it, his flock will focus on that and he can breath a sigh of relief.

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Americans are more likely to kill other Americans. They're also more likely to end up in prison.

Hello Strangerland! Yeah, I'll wear that shoe. America is a violent place. But still . . . everyone & their mother want to come here. We're infidels remember??

Growing up in a middle-class neighborhood then later, upper-middle class, I was very fortunate. In Compton, they always kill each other.

. . . that's why the democrats are full of crap. They just stay poor and expect EBT cards -free stuff- etc. etc. etc. That's NOT what the United states of America is all about!!

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Yes, I remember that one incident and? So one time makes it ok?

You remember this one incident (sic)? It wasn't one time.

Like I wrote, Obama has delivered this kind of message numerous times. Pull your head out and check the record. I shouldn't have to do your homework for you. You're a professional.

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Birds of a feather flock together.

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Especially when he's clutching that pen - the executive "order" signing pen. No spine. Putin . . . . shoved him to the curb. The mullahs of iran have played hop-scotch on him too.

As weak as this president is and with the few months he has in office, I feel he's going to try to do some dumb executive moves as far as guns are concerned, the anointed one cares only about his legacy and if he can get one for the Democrats to find a way to go around the 2nd amendment, he will. With all the education liberals brag about, you would think they would be smart enough not to touch this issue.

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as far as guns are concerned

Can you be specific? You are used to no guns anyway living in Japan.

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FROM the NRA giftbag to Americans, an endorsement of Donald J. Trump.

Another gift from the NRA for Americans . . .

"LAPLACE, La. — Authorities say a 5-year-old girl shot and killed herself with a handgun at a Louisiana home."

source: 5-Year-Old Girl Playing With Gun Fatally Shoots Herself In Louisiana →World May. 22, 2016 - 03:35AM JST

The NRA is on the wrong side again; willfully preventing gun safety for all Americans and Democracy.

Sounds like Trump and NRA have finally agreed on a Federally Mandated tombstone for all Americans, a statue of Trump with a gun in his hand.

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source: 5-Year-Old Girl Playing With Gun Fatally Shoots Herself In Louisiana →World May. 22, 2016 - 03:35AM JST

What abou kids that are molested everyday or what about children that kill their parents. You can pick ANY tragic event where kids were involved and shooting is one. So what's your pony?

The NRA is on the wrong side again; willfully preventing gun safety for all Americans and Democracy.

ROFL

Sounds like Trump and NRA have finally agreed on a Federally Mandated tombstone for all Americans, a statue of Trump with a gun in his hand.

How about getting angry at Obama not speaking about the out of control Black on Black crime, that would be a signicant feat to undertake,

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out of control Black on Black crime

Yes, and as you agree that gun registration works this would help reduce black-on-black gun violence. Obama is addressing this, and as you know gun registration works.

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What abou kids that are molested everyday or what about children that kill their parents.

Molesting a child is a criminal offence. Killing a parent is a criminal offence. Bass, are you by any chance making the sensible suggestion that having the country awash with lethal weapons is a major problem, and that for a member of the public to own a lethal weapon should be a criminal offence?

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Yes, and as you agree that gun registration works this would help reduce black-on-black gun violence.

I have never been for gun registration, except for criminals.

Obama is addressing this, and as you know gun registration works.

I don't think gun registration is is necessarily the best solution if it should either limit me to purchasing as many firearms as I want, that's my my problem. Obama hasn't done nearly enough.

@cleo

I don't think only a registered firearm is a legal offense and I think if you want to own a firearm and you qualify for it, why not? As far as the gangs are concerned, we should be doing something that would hinder these people from getting their hands on a firearm. Most states already have strict gun laws, the problem comes from illegal street guns that are sold in the streets.

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I don't think gun registration is is necessarily the best solution It works well for your country japan. I never hear of any gun attacks with hunting rifles. I don't think. I know it works.

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"I have never been for gun registration, except for criminals." - comments

This may be the most extreme of ideas about the control of deadly weapons of mass destruction. No gun registration, period. But, if the gunsel has slain his wife, a three question registration form.

Boy, that NRA badge of honor sounds like a lobotomy. Guns for all and the criminal.

Like they say, truth is stranger than fiction, and the fiction the NRA is selling is well represented by the biggest fraud the GOP-tea has had since Palin.

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This may be the most extreme of ideas about the control of deadly weapons of mass destruction. No gun registration, period.

Because it doesn't necessarily work. Prohibition didn't work as well, the only thing you would do is drive gun sales underground.

Boy, that NRA badge of honor sounds like a lobotomy. Guns for all and the criminal.

I don't know about that, criminals will be criminals and do whatever it takes to meet their objective, regardless of the means and methods.

Like they say, truth is stranger than fiction, and the fiction the NRA is selling is well represented by the biggest fraud the GOP-tea has had since Palin.

GOP?

http://www.gunsandammo.com/second-amendment/8-surprisingly-pro-gun-democrats/

Where's your outrage?! Damn those liberals! The only person that's a fraud is the guy currently occupying the White House.

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the only thing you would do is drive gun sales underground.

That's a good thing. Then put anyone caught with a gun in jail for 6 months right away. Double it every additional time they get caught with a gun. You'd see very few people carrying guns very quickly.

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It is a fallacy that Democrats oppose gun rights. They support gun rights for themselves anyway. President Obama, Hillary, and former President Clinton have people with guns around them 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. They are well protected with handguns, semi-automatic machine guns, and shotguns. They just want everyone else to be defenseless.

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They support gun rights for themselves anyway. President Obama, Hillary, and former President Clinton have people with guns around them 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. They are well protected with handguns, semi-automatic machine guns, and shotguns.

Yeah um, that's how it works everywhere. Even Abe has armed protectors. Masazoe has an armed police officer outside his house 24 hours a day.

Very few people are calling for no guns whatsoever, just no guns in the hands of the public. Anyone unable to see the difference is being obtuse, whether purposefully or ignorantly.

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As far as the gangs are concerned...... the problem comes from illegal street guns that are sold in the streets.

The 5-year-old who shot herself with her Daddy's gun the other day wasn't involved in any gangs, and the gun wasn't an illegal one sold on the streets. Same could be said of the 6-year-old in Baton Rouge who shot his sister in the face, or the 3-year-old in New Orleans killed when the gun in his grandmother's bed went off while she slept.

It's beyond crazy.

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It is a fallacy that Democrats oppose gun rights. They support gun rights for themselves anyway. President Obama, Hillary, and former President Clinton have people with guns around them 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. They are well protected with handguns, semi-automatic machine guns, and shotguns. They just want everyone else to be defenseless.

So why is it acceptable for Obama to be surrounded by people with guns, he NEVER has to worry about his safety as well as Abe, but as Americans, we can't? That's a bogus weak argument! I and EVERY other American have the absolute right to protect ourselves, family and property, the 2nd amendment enshrines that. Look at Katrina, many of those that did carry firearms were glad they did, otherwise they would have become victims of theft, rape and robbery.

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Because it doesn't necessarily work. Prohibition didn't work as well, the only thing you would do is drive gun sales underground

Bogus. All other developed countries have strict gun control and much lower gun crime rates.

I and EVERY other American have the absolute right to protect ourselves, family and property, the 2nd amendment enshrines that.

So, does the constitution give you the right to own a howitzer? A tank? Perhaps an ant-aircraft gun?

You forgot the part about the "well-regulated militia." So, no, you clearly do not have the absolute right to protect yourself

Lastly, guns were used to kill 11,000 Americans, while guns saves 700 lives. Of those 700 justifiable homicides, firearms were used by civilians only 200 times. For every 1 life a gun "saves," 11 people lost their lives. The romanticized, fetishized idea that guns save lives is a work of pernicious fallacy perpetrated by the NRA. The NRA is funded by tens of millions of dollars worth of donations from gun companies. The NRA is clearly not concerned with your safety or mine. Its profit over people.

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So why is it acceptable for Obama to be surrounded by people with guns, Japan's prime minister is surrounded by people with guns. This is the same around the world...guns or no guns for the common citizen. Very bad example.

American have the absolute right to protect ourselves, family and property, How do you feel about the vulnerability with your Japanese family?

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This is the same around the world...guns or no guns for the common citizen. Very bad example.

Whatever! As an American citizen, I'm keeping my guns and proud of it. Thank you.

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As an American citizen, I'm keeping my guns and proud of it.

Correct me if I'm wrong. Does that mean you have dual (J+US) citizenship? And you have guns in Japan?

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I'm keeping my guns and proud of it.

You can't. You are in Japan.

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Very few people are calling for no guns whatsoever, just no guns in the hands of the public. Anyone unable to see the difference is being obtuse, whether purposefully or ignorantly.

Few except the President who has endorsed the Australian gun ban law. So what should the public do when the guns Obama gave to Mexican drug cartels are smuggled into the country through America's porous borders or through the black market? The American Left has no interest in preventing gun smuggling as that would require border security. I personally do not own a gun but I feel better knowing that if I lived in a dangerous part of the country or were threatened that I have the right to obtain the means to defend myself.

What is obtuse and ignorant is the claim that the lives of the ruling class require protection and the average citizens does not. I do not believe that any citizens life - including government officials - are innately more valuable than the average citizen. I do not need the police to provide me with my own personal bodyguard as-long-as I have reasonable means to protect myself.

By the way, do you have grandkids?

Do you drive a car? Tens of thousands of innocent children are killed and injured in car accidents each year. I suppose you feel it's fine if a grandchild is killed in a car accident but much fewer deaths from gun related accidents are intolerable. Are you ready to ban cars from the general public?

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What is obtuse and ignorant is the claim that the lives of the ruling class require protection and the average citizens does not. I do not believe that any citizens life - including government officials - are innately more valuable than the average citizen. I do not need the police to provide me with my own personal bodyguard as-long-as I have reasonable means to protect myself.

BINGO!

Sums up everything. 100% agreed.

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What is obtuse and ignorant is the claim that the lives of the ruling class require protection and the average citizens does not. I do not believe that any citizens life - including government officials - are innately more valuable than the average citizen.

It isn't that the life of a VIP (politicians, celebrities etc) is more valuable than that of the average citizen; it's that the VIP is a bigger target and more like to attract weirdos and loonies eager to take a pot shot at the VIP because he's a VIP. Think Abe Lincoln, John Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, Ronald Reagan, Gandhi, Martin Luther King, John Paul II, John Lennon. Mr. Joe Average is much less likely to be the target of a nutter killer with a gun.

At least that's the case in civilised societies where Mr Joe Average doesn't live in such daily fear for his life that he rejoices in what he sees as the 'need' to have lethal protection against everything and everyone. If I had to live in an environment where I feared for my life not only when I stepped outside but even sitting in my own house, I think I would go crazy.

And that is what appears to have happened to the people who support the NRA in America.

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It's just so funny that NRA members are OK with no guns at the conventions also (for the ones who come to Japan) they have to leave their guns at home.

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What is obtuse and ignorant is the claim that the lives of the ruling class require protection and the average citizens does not. I do not believe that any citizens life - including government officials - are innately more valuable than the average citizen.

If you or I get shot and killed, some people cry, there is a funeral, life goes on. If the president of a country gets shot, it disrupts that entire countries economy, and any plans going on. It's a major event.

While one life is equal to another life, the after-effects of the execution of the leader of a nation will have a significantly larger impact on the entire populace.

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Whatever!

I cannot counter that 'argument'. It's on a level with sticking your fingers in your ears and chanting 'lalalalahla, I can't hear you~!'

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I mostly enjoy hunting. 2 months ago, we went deer, pheasant and boar. Went with my Japanese family and we had a blast. Which part of Japan? How do you feel about having to register your hunting rifle with the police? Registration is very good for gun safety and you can see first hand how it works in Japan.

but knowing that I have a firearm in Japan, it's better to have one and not use it, rather than needing one and NOT it. I want that option. You also keep your rifle for self defense?

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No bass, it7s not an opinion, it's maths. '100%' means that's the whole argument, it's all about self-protection.

I do own quite a few, I collect firearms and yes, I do have some that are for my protection.

If you want to add in the 'fun' of killing wildlife, then it's not 100% for self-protection, which you initially claimed it was.

You can say that if you want, but I still enjoy hunting and always will and unless, the 2nd amendment is totally abolished and all of our guns are confiscated, I'm always going to hunt, collect and attend gun shows and that's why I'm a staunch supporter of the NRA.

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I do own quite a few, I collect firearms and yes, I do have some that are for my protection. What do you do for protection in Japan?

I'm a staunch supporter of the NRA. Many think the NRA is liberal. Do you agree?

Moderator: Please focus your comments on the story and not at other readers.

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"I still enjoy hunting and always will and unless, the 2nd amendment is totally abolished and all of our guns are confiscated, I'm always going to hunt, collect and attend gun shows and that's why I'm a staunch supporter of the NRA." - comments

. . . no matter how many innocent people get killed.

The Second Amendment is very clear.

America is a slaughter house and no one can stop the billions the gun industry makes from their weapons of mass destruction. FREEDOM!

Trump, of course, Trump's efforts to make guns available at the 7-11 will be well rewarded, such a nice man, bringing his NRA death storm to American Losers, as Trump likes to call them, Trump's Losers and their Weapons of Mass Destruction. Just like the Forefathers imagined.

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Wonder why GUN = FREEDOM because most of the countries in the world do not provide guns to their citizen and still they have the same level of freedom and live an happy life with a gun in their house...probably in the US, GUN = CRIME so people feel unsecured and want more GUN and CRIME+GUN = POLICE STATE shooting at will and POLICE STATE shooting at will does not equal freedom.

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nishikat: It's just so funny that NRA members are OK with no guns at the conventions

If that is the case I agree. Kind of like the Democrat's complaining about voter id but won't let anyone into their convention or headquarters building without an id.

@Strangerland: If you or I get shot and killed, some people cry, there is a funeral, life goes on.

Life does not go on when you are dead.

While one life is equal to another life, the after-effects of the execution of the leader of a nation will have a significantly larger impact on the entire populace.

Oh so this is the Socialist argument. Although one life is equal to another, it isn't equal enough to justify allowing the not so important people with even the means to protect themselves. The American Founders believed that rights are individual rights and are not based on class or position in government. The citizen knows he is not as critical to the functioning of government as the President or Secretary of State. However, they do not see themselves as simply wheels in the machine of government as the Left.

As for the argument that the death of an important person in government is somehow catastrophic for society. America has had several Presidents shot and killed while in office. Guess what? Life went on just the same - at least for everyone else.

@Citizen2012: Wonder why GUN = FREEDOM

It is a part of America's Constitution and it is a foundational right in the American tradition. Not everyone in the US chooses to own a gun. I do not.

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Gun manufacturers have sold more guns under Obama than any other President. NRA has gotten more members under Obama than any other President. They really need to be more thankful and thank Supreme Leader Obama for all his work in making the NRA and gun manufacturers the powerful entities they are today. = 4 more years !!

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. . . no matter how many innocent people get killed.

I still drive a car, although millions of people are killed every year, I still swim even though thousands of people drown every year, I still eat peanut butter, even though thousands of people die from some form of nut allergy. So to answer your question, Yes.

The Second Amendment is very clear.

America is a slaughter house and no one can stop the billions the gun industry makes from their weapons of mass destruction. FREEDOM!

Slaughter House? I think progressive liberalism is far more dangerous, especially when it involves our FREEDOMS.

Trump, of course, Trump's efforts to make guns available at the 7-11 will be well rewarded, such a nice man, bringing his NRA death storm to American Losers, as Trump likes to call them, Trump's Losers and their Weapons of Mass Destruction. Just like the Forefathers imagined.

Nice try, but the violin heart-tugging music isn't going to dissuade anyone that believes in the sanctity of the 2nd amendment.

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NRA, Guns and Trump. Like smoking, heroin and poison all wrapped up in one fine mess. Gun worship by the small manhood crowd results in 15,000 needless deaths a year in the USA. No gun violence here in Japan, why would that be? For the gun worshipers who are a tad slow, that is because guns are banned in Japan. As in most civilised countries. Comparing owning guns to swimming is one of the most stupid things I have read on JT. The purpose of swimming is not to kill people, that is the purpose of a gun. Simply amazing how far the gun lovers will torture logic to pretend to make their case for a product that is all about death. The NRA and Trump deserve each other. Both are embarrassments for the USA.

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http://www.conservapedia.com/Gun_Control_in_Japan

Japanese people can own guns but there is a licensing process and most people do not want to jump thru those hoops. Handguns are very very rare and remember how that engineer who made the 3D printed "gun" was attacked by the Gov to set an example.

= Japanese people goto Hawaii or Las Vegas and "rent" guns for their shooting pleasure.

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The Killing Fields. In Oklahoma, Kansas, Virginia, Texas...need I go on? The NRA is the US's public enemy number one.

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I think progressive liberalism is far more dangerous How about the Bundies and PP shooters. Those are some dangerous conservatives.

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It's just so funny that NRA members are OK with no guns at the conventions also (for the ones who come to Japan) they have to leave their guns at home.

What's funny? They're obeying the law...

One hall out of a few that comprised the last convention venue did not allow guns, so the did not bring them in there, but did to places that allowed them, so to say they don't allow guns at their conventions is incorrect.

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What's funny? What if some crazy Liberal with a gun comes and attacks them. NRA members have to be ready 24/7. They are the Seal Team Six of the USA. It is a real funny joke. The NRA are playing its members for suckers. Gimmie More Money or Bye Bye Guns. Oh! No Guns Allowed. It's a real joke.

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Did you even read what I wrote? It is untrue that they don't let members have guns at conventions.

". However, the NRA did not in any way ban the carrying of guns at their convention; rather, the rumor to that effect stemmed from a misunderstanding of varying convention practices, local regulations, and existing laws.

The NRA convention is a very large event, with expected attendance in the range of 70,000 to 80,000 persons, and will sprawl multiple venues. At the primary venue, Music City Center, gun owners with proper carry permits can indeed bring their guns with them during the association's convention. However, one of the auxiliary venues, the Bridgestone Arena (which will be hosting an NRA-sponsored concert by country music artist Alan Jackson and comedian Jeff Foxworthy), is a private venue that prohibits the possession of firearms."

So, not funny, and not even true.

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is a private venue that prohibits the possession of firearms So then what if someone comes and attacks these people? If I were an NRA member I would feel very very insecure.

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