Hamas rejects Carter's call to halt rocket fire on Israel for 1 month

Tuesday 22nd April, 06:30 AM JST

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GeorgeRouault at 08:00 PM JST - 22nd April

Farmer. I did read it since you haven't I can tell you a fact. Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict. USA has agreed to this to.
Farmboy at 08:00 PM JST - 22nd April

Sorry the Wikipedia link above doesn't seem to work. Anyway, go to Google, search for Resolution 242 and choose the Wikipedia article. The text is there.
GeorgeRouault at 08:43 PM JST - 22nd April

1967 borders is the borders which have been agreed. The first step should be for Israel to pull back to the 1967 borders which also USA have agreed on. However there are other issues too such as the Palestinians who lost their homes and property in 1947-8.
Madverts at 08:50 PM JST - 22nd April

"However there are other issues too such as the Palestinians who lost their homes and property in 1947-8."

To the victors go the spoils, george. Especially when it is a victory over an act of aggression in all fairness.
skipthesong at 08:54 PM JST - 22nd April

there are other issues too" Well, now you just criticized yourself..

Now you just admitted that the 1967 borders are not the issue and pulling back from them which they won fair and square, more like a lopsided fight in favor of the Arabs, won't do a thing..

Now we can all rest.
SuperLib at 10:13 PM JST - 22nd April

There will be no right of return. Even Carter says that. Obviously it's a back door to eliminating Israel.
Zaphod at 11:50 PM JST - 22nd April

If Arabs want Israel to withdraw entirely from the Westbank and give the Golan to Syria(the "return to the 1967 borders"), then it is entirely reasonable for Israel to ask for some guarantee for peace in return, starting with the recognition of Israel`s right to exist.

To ask Israel to withdraw into its already tiny territory under rocket fire and promises of holocaust is asinine.

Israel withdrew from Southern Lebanon, and got... more terrorism. Israel withdrew from Gazah and got... more terrorism. Leaving the West Bank to become one giant Jihadist terror camp, pointint at the heart of Israel is akin to suicide for Israel.

Which is of course the the point for the muslim Jihadists like Hamas.
adaydream at 01:29 AM JST - 23rd April

I agree Sabi.
GeorgeRouault at 01:47 AM JST - 23rd April

The Right OF Return.

It is accepted in the New World Countries that the indegenous people were subjected to unfair treatment be it Canada, USA and such as. Once Israel accepts the Right OF Return it does not mean that every single refugee who were terrorised out of their homes will return but this would be a constructive acknowledgement.
SuperLib at 01:56 AM JST - 23rd April

George, if Hamas agreed to lay down their arms tomorrow and negotiate a peace agreement with Israel that in the end would require them to give up their armed struggle and receive the 1967 borders in exchange for peace, would you consider them to be a failure? Traitor? Or would you support them?

How do you feel about the peace agreements that Israel has made with the other Arab countries? Are those Arabs traitors or heroes?

If Hamas makes good on their promise to increase their attacks but the result ends up being counter productive with exponentially more Palestinian casualties and less support from the world, would you advise them to continue along the same path?

What would need to happen in order for you to reverse your position and renounce violence as a matter of policy?
SuperLib at 01:58 AM JST - 23rd April

One last question: Is it possible to support the Palestinian people without supporting Hamas and the militants?
GeorgeRouault at 06:25 AM JST - 23rd April

Khalid Amayreh says Hamas will not judge people’s religions and ideologies, and will continue to seek friendship on the basis of mutual respect and mutual interests despite erratic and stupid utterances by some ignoramuses who are members of Hamas. Hamas doesn’t actually consider Jews as enemies. In fact, Jews who support justice and true peace and who stand against oppression and occupation are Hamas’ partners for a better future for both Jews and Muslims in this tormented land.
curlygene at 07:25 AM JST - 23rd April

Sabiwabi,

Israel was created by force and it expanded by force. Israel never stopped the war they started.

Are you suggesting that, assuming that creation of a state by "force" is wrong, Israel has no legitimate claim on any of its territory? And if so, Israel could "stop the war" by giving it all up?
redacted at 10:30 AM JST - 23rd April

We really shouldn't be so hard on Carter. The UN is equally hopeless. In fact, they are criminally incompetent:

"Armed Hezbollah militants warded off members of the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL) last month when the peacekeepers discovered a truck carrying weapons and ammunition belonging to the Lebanon-based guerilla group.

The incident was referred to briefly in a semi-yearly report submitted to the UN Security Council by UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/976980.html
Zaphod at 11:19 AM JST - 25th April

Sing along with Jimmy Carter: http://www.pi-news.net/wp/uploads/2008/04/carter_jewhating.jpg