Kinda agree, yet, the living conditions in the gaza strip for the average joe have improved.
Lets face it Israel got the palestinians by the short and curly. They control work permits for workers, food/water/supplies.
Israel shuts the border-posts and 70+% of the people can't get to work, ambulances are delayed, no supplies for shops are coming in(you know like food), etc.
IMHO, the Palestinians are on the short end of the stick and naturally they try to fight back. But drop a rocket on Israel and Israel makes a military incursion leveling buildings, dropping bombs, killing civilians.
Call me weird but I feel for the Palestinians more than for the Israeli(who got nukes), etc.
Easy solution to the problem, not really but I think the US needs to pull their support for Israel(Funds, military goods, etc) and let them fight talk on an even level.
the US needs to pull their support for Israel(Funds, military goods, etc) and let them fight talk on an even level.
The aid Israel receives from the US represents maybe 3% of their GNP. So even if the US pulls its support, Israel will never be at the level of the "Palestinians". This is because Israelis, unlike Muslim Arabs, actually produce things and have an economy.
But drop a rocket on Israel and Israel makes a military incursion leveling buildings, dropping bombs, killing civilians.
Hmmm. Then how about not dropping rockets on Israel. But that will never happen since groups like Hamas and Islamic Jihad, who seek the destruction of Israel, know that keeping the "Palestinian" population in misery only helps their cause. And first-world leftists are so easily duped.
Call me weird but I feel for the Palestinians more than for the Israeli(who got nukes), etc.
Just because you're weaker doesn't make you honorable.
So palestine should just lie back and accept being raped by israel because they are weaker and been kept so by Israel for a few decades.
Great arguments and shows your bias.
P.S.: A LOT of the Military hardware that Israel uses has been DONATED by the USA, won't show up any Aid sheets. Same way that the USA will support Israel on 90% of their decisions against palestine and arabs.
they are weaker and been kept so by Israel for a few decades.
Sorry, but the "Palestinians" have been kept weaker and in misery for decades by Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Fatah, Tanzim, Al Aqsa Martyr's Brigade, The Popular Resistance Committees, The Palestine Liberation Front, PFLP, and all the other "Palestinian" terrorist groups. They'll never be able to achieve their goal of driving the Infidel into the sea with a content and productive population. Perhaps some day you'll see through the "Palestinian" lie.
A LOT of the Military hardware that Israel uses has been DONATED by the USA, won't show up any Aid sheets.
Would be interested in your sources on this. Please list.
So palestine should just lie back and accept being raped by israel
But explain why Israel DON'T follow UN resolutions, have nukes and no-one sez anything against those(including the USA who is against other nations having them).
If any other country did the same they would have been invaded and put on the terror list already.
But explain why Israel DON'T follow UN resolutions
Since the UN has become nothing but a worthless joke, I see no reason to waste time explaining anything about the UN. It does, however, show that Arab league nations are capable of producing at least one thing - UN resolutions against Israel.
have nukes and no-one sez anything against those
Plenty of people say things against Israel having nukes. Especially those who know that these nukes are the only thing keeping the Muslim Arabs from eradicating Israel. But Israel has had nukes for over half a century now and despite at least three major defensive wars and countless intifadas, has never used them. I wouldn't worry too much about Israel's nukes.
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But explain why Israel DON'T follow UN resolutions, have nukes and no-one sez anything against those
Because Israel's enemies also don't follow UN resolutions, like the one that created Israel and Palestine in the first place.
If any other country did the same they would have been invaded and put on the terror list already.
Since the Europeans gave Israel their nukes, I'm guessing you can see why the UN won't be doing any investigations anytime soon.
They control work permits for workers, food/water/supplies. Israel shuts the border-posts and 70+% of the people can't get to work, ambulances are delayed, no supplies for shops are coming in(you know like food), etc.
That's a direct result of terrorists using work permits, humanitarian aid lines, and anything they can get their hands on in order to kill innocents. Israel used to give free medical care to seriously hurt Palestinians in hospitals. Why did they stop it? Because the terrorists tried to smuggle in a lady with a bomb at the checkpoint. Her gaol was to kill Israeli doctors treating Palestinians. Now the checkpoint is closed the the service has stopped. That should tell you that the militants are more than happy to sacrifice the people they are supposedly fighting for.
IMHO, the Palestinians are on the short end of the stick and naturally they try to fight back.
And naturally they are in ruins while the other Arabs have made peace agreements with Israel and have moved on. Maybe there's something better than using ambulances to transport bombs to kill innocents? There's nothing "natural" about that. The result, which is to suspend ambulance crossings, is entirely natural.
The Palestinians are two groups....terrorists and citizens. I would like to see the situation improve for the citizens. But I think groups like Hamas and Islamic Jihad are more than happy to make their people suffer in order to keep their policy of revenge.
This week Israel tried to arrest two terrorists in the West Bank, something they're allowed to do under the ceasefire. Islamic Jihad responded by launching rockets into Israel, something they're not allowed to do under the ceasefire. As a result of rockets being fired into Israel, Israel closed Gaza once again.
Now are you really going to sit there and tell me that Islamic Jihad is fighting for Palestinians? The militants are animals who will gladly let the people of Gaza suffer as long as they can get one more rocket into Israel.
Zen - If you're still around, I was finally able to open the link you listed. Please let me know where in the article it discusses weapons that have "been DONATED by the US".
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SuperLib at 12:36 PM JST - 28th June
Hamas cannot control the militants, so they cannot delivery peace.
Zen_Builder at 12:51 PM JST - 28th June
Superlib.
Kinda agree, yet, the living conditions in the gaza strip for the average joe have improved.
Lets face it Israel got the palestinians by the short and curly. They control work permits for workers, food/water/supplies. Israel shuts the border-posts and 70+% of the people can't get to work, ambulances are delayed, no supplies for shops are coming in(you know like food), etc.
IMHO, the Palestinians are on the short end of the stick and naturally they try to fight back. But drop a rocket on Israel and Israel makes a military incursion leveling buildings, dropping bombs, killing civilians.
Call me weird but I feel for the Palestinians more than for the Israeli(who got nukes), etc.
Easy solution to the problem, not really but I think the US needs to pull their support for Israel(Funds, military goods, etc) and let them fight talk on an even level.
Helter_Skelter at 03:09 PM JST - 28th June
The aid Israel receives from the US represents maybe 3% of their GNP. So even if the US pulls its support, Israel will never be at the level of the "Palestinians". This is because Israelis, unlike Muslim Arabs, actually produce things and have an economy.
Hmmm. Then how about not dropping rockets on Israel. But that will never happen since groups like Hamas and Islamic Jihad, who seek the destruction of Israel, know that keeping the "Palestinian" population in misery only helps their cause. And first-world leftists are so easily duped.
Just because you're weaker doesn't make you honorable.
Zen_Builder at 03:19 PM JST - 28th June
So palestine should just lie back and accept being raped by israel because they are weaker and been kept so by Israel for a few decades.
Great arguments and shows your bias.
P.S.: A LOT of the Military hardware that Israel uses has been DONATED by the USA, won't show up any Aid sheets. Same way that the USA will support Israel on 90% of their decisions against palestine and arabs.
Helter_Skelter at 04:26 PM JST - 28th June
Sorry, but the "Palestinians" have been kept weaker and in misery for decades by Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Fatah, Tanzim, Al Aqsa Martyr's Brigade, The Popular Resistance Committees, The Palestine Liberation Front, PFLP, and all the other "Palestinian" terrorist groups. They'll never be able to achieve their goal of driving the Infidel into the sea with a content and productive population. Perhaps some day you'll see through the "Palestinian" lie.
Would be interested in your sources on this. Please list.
Haha. So who's showing their bias here?
Zen_Builder at 04:34 PM JST - 28th June
Suit yourself.
But explain why Israel DON'T follow UN resolutions, have nukes and no-one sez anything against those(including the USA who is against other nations having them).
If any other country did the same they would have been invaded and put on the terror list already.
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But whatever I say will just bounce of you. So have a good one.
Helter_Skelter at 05:21 PM JST - 28th June
Since the UN has become nothing but a worthless joke, I see no reason to waste time explaining anything about the UN. It does, however, show that Arab league nations are capable of producing at least one thing - UN resolutions against Israel.
Plenty of people say things against Israel having nukes. Especially those who know that these nukes are the only thing keeping the Muslim Arabs from eradicating Israel. But Israel has had nukes for over half a century now and despite at least three major defensive wars and countless intifadas, has never used them. I wouldn't worry too much about Israel's nukes.
PS Got an error message with the link you listed. Try again.
SuperLib at 10:09 PM JST - 28th June
Because Israel's enemies also don't follow UN resolutions, like the one that created Israel and Palestine in the first place.
Since the Europeans gave Israel their nukes, I'm guessing you can see why the UN won't be doing any investigations anytime soon.
That's a direct result of terrorists using work permits, humanitarian aid lines, and anything they can get their hands on in order to kill innocents. Israel used to give free medical care to seriously hurt Palestinians in hospitals. Why did they stop it? Because the terrorists tried to smuggle in a lady with a bomb at the checkpoint. Her gaol was to kill Israeli doctors treating Palestinians. Now the checkpoint is closed the the service has stopped. That should tell you that the militants are more than happy to sacrifice the people they are supposedly fighting for.
And naturally they are in ruins while the other Arabs have made peace agreements with Israel and have moved on. Maybe there's something better than using ambulances to transport bombs to kill innocents? There's nothing "natural" about that. The result, which is to suspend ambulance crossings, is entirely natural.
The Palestinians are two groups....terrorists and citizens. I would like to see the situation improve for the citizens. But I think groups like Hamas and Islamic Jihad are more than happy to make their people suffer in order to keep their policy of revenge.
This week Israel tried to arrest two terrorists in the West Bank, something they're allowed to do under the ceasefire. Islamic Jihad responded by launching rockets into Israel, something they're not allowed to do under the ceasefire. As a result of rockets being fired into Israel, Israel closed Gaza once again.
Now are you really going to sit there and tell me that Islamic Jihad is fighting for Palestinians? The militants are animals who will gladly let the people of Gaza suffer as long as they can get one more rocket into Israel.
Helter_Skelter at 12:12 PM JST - 29th June
Zen - If you're still around, I was finally able to open the link you listed. Please let me know where in the article it discusses weapons that have "been DONATED by the US".
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