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Republicans oppose spending but also use immigration as a fund raiser. That's why they declined to specify a number and are "crunching the numbers carefully".$3.7 billion is too much but who will they blame if their lower appropriation still doesn't stem the flow of illegal aliens? Obama,of course. You can bet they'll come up with an extremely low number doomed to fail.

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It's his Katrina, Yes, he is too blame, he lied about the border being closed and this is the result.

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The Kochs ads attacking Obamacare and pushing for its repeal are actually encouraging more people to sign up for it, according to a Brookings report.

The GOP is dragging their feet again. There will be a same negative outcome pushing many conservative voters away from the Republicans for November election. Do not underestimate American voters in aggregate scale, they are pretty smart. The GOP keep dragging their feet. The GOP can go ahead and file suit against Obama. Do you remember Ohio went all the way to Obama after all these negative campaigns? Do you remember Eric Cantor got just defeated after all these negative campaigns? Keep it mind American voters are not buying it.

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Paul, Have you seen the $3.7B breakdown in spending Obama wants? How much would be used to help strengthen the border security?

A headline today. BLACK AMERICAN FROM GANG-BESIEGED BALTIMORE: 'WHERE CAN I GET ASYLUM?' Yes, it is real.

If only the Border could shut down the way the Obama shut down and beefed up security at the national parks during the sequester.

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MarkG: Paul, Have you seen the $3.7B breakdown in spending Obama wants? How much would be used to help strengthen the border security?

The point of the spending is to handle the influx of people. Nothing more, nothing less. If you want to strengthen the border then put in into a comprehensive immigration reform package and -- oh, wait. I'm talking to a Republican. I forgot that you're not allowed to talk about that.

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@global

The GOP is dragging their feet again. There will be a same negative outcome pushing many conservative voters away from the Republicans for November election. Do not underestimate American voters in aggregate scale, they are pretty smart. The GOP keep dragging their feet. The GOP can go ahead and file suit against Obama. Do you remember Ohio went all the way to Obama after all these negative campaigns? Do you remember Eric Cantor got just defeated after all these negative campaigns? Keep it mind American voters are not buying it.

They are pretty smart? Many Americans don't know or care about politics, for if they did, Obama would have never made a second term. You say they are smart, there is NO indication whatsoever the Republicans are sagging in the polls, stop lying like that. This president is done, stick a fork in him already, the only outcome that Obama will have in the next few years is being a lame Duck. He has two choices after November, work with a Republican Senate and House or use his pen and phone, but he'd better be careful doing that, he's setting himself up for something unprecedented. And yes, if you want to see the lates polls.

With the midterm elections six months away, Democrats are burdened by an uneven economic recovery and a stubbornly unpopular health care law.Perhaps equally important, Barack Obama’s political standing is in some respects weaker than it was at a comparable point in the 2010 campaign, which ended with the Republicans gaining a majority in the House.

A national survey by the Pew Research Center and USA TODAY, conducted April 23-27 among 1,501 adults (including 1,162 registered voters), finds that 47% of registered voters support the Republican candidate in their district or lean Republican, while 43% favor the Democratic candidate or lean Democratic. The trend over the past six months in the so-called generic ballot shows that Democrats have lost ground. In October, Democrats held a six-point lead (49% to 43%) in midterm voting preferences. At this early point in the campaign, Obama inspires far less enthusiasm among Democratic voters than he did four years ago. Only three-in-ten Democratic voters (31%) think of their vote as being “for” the president. In February 2010, 47% of Democratic voters saw their vote as an expression of support for the president.

Republicans are no more likely to consider their vote as “against” the president than they were in early 2010 (46% today, 42% in February 2010). But Republicans typically vote at higher rates than Democrats in midterm elections. Democratic voters’ lack of enthusiasm for Obama may complicate Democrats’ turnout efforts.

Now there are many democrats that support him, but the proof is there. Obama is NOT nearly as popular or liked as he once was and that's because of his constant failures.

@super

The point of the spending is to handle the influx of people. Nothing more, nothing less.

Funny, we have thousands of starving Americans in our own country and NOT a dime is going to them, the party that claims to be passionate is not on a bully pulpit screaming their lungs out about our own native fellow Americans. I'm a compassionate person, I feel for these people, but if really want to do something humane, how about teaching these Latin nations and especially Mexico that instead of just putting and shoving the problems to Americans, have them take up some of the slack since they are the primary instigators and facilitators of this crisis.

If you want to strengthen the border then put in into a comprehensive immigration reform package and -- oh, wait. I'm talking to a Republican. I forgot that you're not allowed to talk about that.

Sure, once the president uses his pen and phone and requests for the National Guard to be put along the border. If Wilson could do it to stop Poncho Villa about 100 years ago, why the heck can't Obama??? 2 more years until the madness ends!

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Sure, once the president uses his pen and phone and requests for the National Guard to be put along the border. If Wilson could do it to stop Poncho Villa about 100 years ago, why the heck can't Obama??? 2 more years until the madness ends!

Bass, I mentioned yesterday that the job of the Border Patrol is, for the greater part, to deter and apprehend. When you retorted that this is why we need the Guard there, I assumed you simply still failed to understand.

Your above comment, though, clarifies your thinking: You want to militarize the border, with National Guardsmen free to open fire on any border transgressor, minor or adult.

This negates any comment of compassion you have ever made.

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@laguna

I mentioned yesterday that the job of the Border Patrol is, for the greater part, to deter and apprehend. When you retorted that this is why we need the Guard there, I assumed you simply still failed to understand.

No, I didn't misunderstand anything.

Your above comment, though, clarifies your thinking: You want to militarize the border, with National Guardsmen free to open fire on any border transgressor, minor or adult.

If need be.

This negates any comment of compassion you have ever made.

I think you are conveluding the issue entirely as usual. Also, I have NO compassion for law breakers, sorry

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The $3.7 billion for border security wouldn't be a problem if the U.S. didn't give billions of dollars to Egypt, Israel, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan....

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The $3.7 billion for border security wouldn't be a problem if the U.S. didn't give billions of dollars to Egypt, Israel, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan....

Yeah right. Our national debt is $17,594.623,151,078.59 because of our international lobbying program.

P.S. You forgot the 5 billion to Ukraine

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SuperLibJUL. 12, 2014 - 11:47AM JST MarkG: Paul, Have you seen the $3.7B breakdown in spending Obama wants? How much would be used to help strengthen the border security?

The point of the spending is to handle the influx of people. Nothing more, nothing less. If you want to strengthen the border then put in into a comprehensive immigration reform package and -- oh, wait. I'm talking to a Republican. I forgot that you're not allowed to talk about that.

Exactly my point! This is not border security dollars its to process the current 60,000. Then in 6 months request another $3.7B for the next 60,000. This is a temporary solution. I prefer the final solution on border security.

Are you aware where the Fed dollars are from SuperLib? It certainly is no money tree and the printing press is hurting USA. Enough wasteful spending! Think of your children and grandchildren. Give them a USA our parents knew!

I am not Republican by the way... And the Immigration Reform is not the answer. Its riddled with problems! Reid won't tell you that, Obama won't tell you that, Pelosi- "you have to pass it to see whats in it!". I don't want the proposed reform. It won't help the nation.

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I prefer the final solution on border security.

It seems, Mark, that your opinion matches Bass': you both prefer the "final solution." Please, either of you, outline your "final solution." Inquisitive minds want to know.

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Laguna

"final solution."

No they do not. as well as the GOP in the House. They want to use this as a campaign fund raising issue as well as Obama care. Money talks.

The Democrats in the House have a solid immigration platform agreed with the Senate.

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Your above comment, though, clarifies your thinking: You want to militarize the border, with National Guardsmen free to open fire on any border transgressor, minor or adult.

If need be.

A further point: If you are not being flippant here, Bass, I see no reason to ever communicate with you again.

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@global

No they do not. as well as the GOP in the House. They want to use this as a campaign fund raising issue as well as Obama care. Money talks.

The Democrats in the House have a solid immigration platform agreed with the Senate.

Can't be too solid if it doesn't involve with permanently sealing off the border, if that doesn't happen, you have nothing, I know you libs want the world tp to come in, but if these people want to come in, then do it legally and wait in line. And the liberals will use immigration as their platform for fund raising, don't be partisan.

@laguna

A further point: If you are not being flippant here, Bass, I see no reason to ever communicate with you again.

The same goes for you as well.

@mark

Exactly my point! This is not border security dollars its to process the current 60,000. Then in 6 months request another $3.7B for the next 60,000. This is a temporary solution. I prefer the final solution on border security.

And we are still getting deeper in the financial hole....

Are you aware where the Fed dollars are from SuperLib? It certainly is no money tree and the printing press is hurting USA. Enough wasteful spending! Think of your children and grandchildren. Give them a USA our parents knew!

Most liberals don't care where the funds come from because the money is NOT there's,vs why would they be aware, just give them a blank check.

I am not Republican by the way... And the Immigration Reform is not the answer. Its riddled with problems! Reid won't tell you that, Obama won't tell you that, Pelosi- "you have to pass it to see whats in it!". I don't want the proposed reform. It won't help the nation.

Here's the thing, you don't have to be politically affiliated with either party to know, this is bad, bad, bad and this president is the death of the country and taking us in the absolute wrong direction and not to mention our children and their children's children.

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The current immigration crisis is a perfect example of the Democrat party's use of race for political ends. Demagogue the issue as anti-Hispanic when in reality it is a matter of law and national sovereignty. Democrats blame no other nation for racism but their own for enforcing national borders.

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It seems to me, this whole immigration tsunami is a well thought out and executed distraction campaign to keep the red robots and the blue robots fighting each other.

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even when he wants to rebuild critical infrastructure, clean the air, protect the environment, and strengthen the border.

And drone and spy on everybody. Yeah, what a hero!

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Fizz, - "And drone and spy on everybody. Yeah, what a hero!"

Re: drones - would you rather another boots-on-the-ground invasion?

It seems you'd be pretty much alone in wanting that.

Got any better options besides drones that you'd like to tell us about?

Re: to spy on everyone - do you think Obama started this?

Ever hear of the Patriotic Act, enacted under GWB?

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Here is a real problem that needs to be addressed. But the Republicans, being Republicans, chose to play politics. Yet again.

No honor. No shame.

I hate them. Every one.

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Weather Democrat or Republican not much is different in the nation with the exception of this administration. This by far the worst two time presidency in the history of USA! The lack of accountability is astounding. The wastefulness is appalling. The credibility is absent.

Simply put, Obama spending money is money down the drain. I would fight ever dollar not going to him.

And with many domestic and international issues....he goes on ANOTHER vacation. Any clue what that costs US taxpayers O-supporters?

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Weather Democrat or Republican not much is different in the nation with the exception of this administration. This by far the worst two time presidency in the history of USA! The lack of accountability is astounding. The wastefulness is appalling. The credibility is absent.

It really says something about it's/my/our people, doesn't it?

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Keep on Hating DanMan!

I will. I guarantee it.

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I choose neither. They're all corrupt and taking $'s from the pigs that feed them. Any one who would follow them are just sheep.

To a large point, I think you are right, but at least the Republicans can stop some of this madness, otherwise there is no way the Dems will come close to stop spending on literally everything and anything, they will continue on their bottomless $$$ projectile. But we have a two party system, so you take the good with the bad. I hope one day we can have another party a registered Independent party. Bush had his share of problems no doubt, I was hard on him about a lot of issues, but I didn't and wouldn't blindly agree with everything he did. I just get annoyed with liberals that will NOT and will NEVER blame the president for anything, let along acknowledge his apparent screw ups, like sheep they will be loyal and follow him to the end, that drives me nuts!

@JT

I will. I guarantee it.

And this is why, liberals will never learn. You guys are so focused on being loyal to Obama, you fail to see any of his flaws or accept to acknowledge them even if the facts hit you in the face, the polls, the people, the media that criticizes him, you all want and disbelieve that it's just impossible to blame the first Black president for anything. Obama is a lame duck and his presidency is a failure, that is NOT racist that is a fact, there is no way anyone that is dealing with the harsh reality can say, Obama and his presidency has been a success, if you do, then you need serious psychiatry help.

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Just as we read these posts the USA has been divided into a 2 sided turmoil. Obama blames anything and everybody which is clearly a sign of incompetence. His loyal followers, which are diminishing by the way, follow blindly. Many see the dream and not the reality and ramifications.

Amnesty for the illegals is opening a can of worms. We have a low "Labor Participation Rate" not seen since Carter some 35 years ago. The difference today is USA lost so many jobs overseas the recovery from this mess will take a bit of time. The "O" supporters claim Obama has lowered the unemployment rate. Because thats what the administration wants us to believe. Simply not true. Just ask recent graduates of their prospects. The answers will wake you up. We have today the highest level of Food Stamps EVER! Add immigrants to that, who pays? Free healthcare now right? Not at all. We taxpayers pay for the less fortunate. Add immigrants to that, we is deep sh1t!

The $17,500,000,000,000 plus we owe today can easily become $22 trillion before Obama leaves office.

The wasteful spending, here is a good example. The beds needed for the 60,000 immigrants in the last several months are quoted at between $250-$1000 per bed. Are you kidding me! I am for care but a $50 temporary cot is suitable for many of these who may have never even slept on a mattress. Remember these are temporary! Trash the beds after use?

I am with Bass on this Reid needs to go. I honestly have no clue how both he and Pelosi have been reelected. Two pears in a pod. And way out there in dreamworld. And also will add Liars. They distort truths beyond distortion more like fabrication!

The future will show the rights and wrongs done during the Obama years. I do feel sad for my children.

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@mark

Just as we read these posts the USA has been divided into a 2 sided turmoil. Obama blames anything and everybody which is clearly a sign of incompetence. His loyal followers, which are diminishing by the way, follow blindly. Many see the dream and not the reality and ramifications.

That's right and Obama has NEVER taken responsibility for anything it's always the Republicans fault or Fox News or The House Boehner's or global warming, the crows flying east etc. it's NEVER Obama's fault. He got a pass for the first 2 years, but after that, it's all his own.

The reason why Reid and Pelosi get reelected because CA and NV vote Blue NO MATTER what! Both sides have out of control taxes, record high unemployment, especially the Blacks and latinos (which is something I don't get) are suffering the worst and yet, they still vote for this guy and still vote Democratic. Both states will never get out of debt and make a full recovery turn around if they keep embracing the same failed liberal policies. Reid is probably one of THE most crooked politicians of our time. Pelosi is just senile, the woman just doesn't have a clue, I almost feel sorry for her. But yeah, they both need to go.

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Yea, I forgot some Democrats HATE Republicans so will elect a cadaver over a Republican. Result is Pelosi and Reid and many others. Not a peep from these sheep regarding Lois Lerner and the incredible corruptive coverup she is part of.

And so many others!

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You won't certainly hear a word about Lois Lerner, or the 6 hard drives. LOL

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Remember, it was the dog that ate her HD. Out of the thousands of emails that were sent and written, the last 2 years up to the election, EVERYTHING just suddenly went missing. Not just the files, but the HD, servers, just conveniently vanished. Lerner taking the 5th, but NOT a smidgen of corruption. Holder won't allow for a special prosecution to handle the situation.

Funny thing is, nothing could get Obama impeached, Afghanistan, IRS scandal, not consulting congress, the border these missing emails etc. the question is, not if it was sent or said, we all know and have proof it was said and happened and they targeted conservatives, it's WHO said what, who ordered the targeting and if it leads to the president, then by all means is it an impeachable offensive and I can assure you, Holder is NOT that dumb and will not let or allow anything like that to get close to the president as long as he is in office, I guarantee you that. They learned from what Happened to Nixon, it's the exact same thing, I remember. Holder and Obama tool a page from that book and won't make those same mistakes. They know NO one in their right minds believes Lerner, but they can say it, because how are you going to prove they did purposely do it? Sooner or later though, people always slip at some point and time, always.

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