WilliB- Dangers in india,is not faiths but ignorance of groups of people about faith. In fact many say sufism in islam came from india.
I believe ignorance of people, is everywhere on the planet. Even in EU, like problems in old yugoslavia.
Other dangers also adding to woes to india.
This are also fairness,education,unemployment,economic injustice, facilities equality, too much escapism movie addicts and weak governance problems among, indian citizens.
If all grassroots problems tackled in stages,for all millions of indian citizens, there will be no space for rebels and their agendas.
Majority of indian millions of people are very gentle and peaceful in land of india. There world is full of problems, india also has its share of woes after independance, even there were problems before independance. They the people of India ,could benefit a lot,if they can get educations agendas going up perfectly, to remove ignorance.
rajakumar
I like what you said above:
"The danger in India is not different faiths but ignorance of groups of people about faith."
Yes, and some people use this ignorance to their selfish and despicable advantage, in the name of faith. This leads to death and unimaginable suffering. Disgusting.
Can the people remain calm in the face of every insult? This is the big question. I certainly hope they can.
wire reports 'weird' about Chief minister of Narendra Modi
State leader Modi is a highly controversial figure in India
Perhaps in Western Media not in india, he has been elected 3 times (each term 5 years) with landslide victory also he has helped restore BJP govt in more than three Indian Satates.
Gujarat’s right-wing Hindu leader Narendra Modi, however, warned
he “shall not spare” the culprits
rightly so, terrorists must not be spared. His stand is no different than the USA.
Having said that, the communal riots must be avoided and terrorists must be captured or killed at any cost.
nandakandamanda- Ignorance is the problem nanda, we may can help others out ignorance with knowledge, but we can't stop ignorance of spiritual desert . Using other ignorance to their advantage, is ignorance.
Blind leading the blind.
The thing people in india,must take lessons/read on their own,as to how to come out of blindness/ignorance. Mystics and others false blind leaders, are cheating people,because they are ignorant enough to be cheated.
Corrections- Using other's ignorance to their advantage ,by false leaders, is ignorance. Blind leading the blind.
The thing people in india, must do, is take lessons /read/ on their own, as to how to come out blindness/ignorance. Mystics and other false blind leaders are cheating people, because they, the people, are ignorant enough, to be cheated.
I was just thinking about my country and the terrorist that I know would take us out.
I have been critical of the CIA and other security agencies, for specific areas, but I'm very proud of the efforts and results they we have in protecting us from bad guys.
I know of a few times we have been saved, because they have made the media. Buy I'm also aware that there are also times we have been saved from attack, that we just aren't told about.
I hope India finds out who did this and protects itself from future attacks. < :-)
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"Dangers in india,is not faiths but ignorance of groups of people about faith. In fact many say sufism in islam came from india."
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No, my friend. These are not some random buddhists, or hindus, or new-agers who are committing terrorism. These are muslim radicals, acting on the word of their holy book. Read the sura 9 of the koran to get an idea.
NB: The "Indian Mujaheddin" movement has already announced more terrorism to come.
Indian leaders appeal for calm after attacks leave 45 dead
From the article: 16 bombs go off in crowded places; targets including markets, buses and hospitals struggling to treat the victims; 45 dead and 162 wounded; victims had been peppered with red-hot nuts, bolts and ball bearings packed into bombs; Islamist group calling itself the “Indian Mujahedeen” had claimed responsibility for the attacks.
And the best the President of India can come up with is to express her “grief and sorrow” and to maintain peace and harmony? Pathetic. Passive resistance may have worked against the British, but it ain't gonna work against Jihadists. The Indian government does nothing about Islamic terrorism and its citizens suffer. Sounds like they're going to continue to this tradition.
WillieB-Following faith blindly/wrongly affect the ignorant people a lot and false leaders misuse intelligence to make their followers bomb/kill.
The modern civilisation in India has many defects, in spiritualty. India still remains a polished cats/dogs civilisation of a lot of illiterate citizens.
Indian people real intelligence also has been taken away.
Blind fools following the blind leaders to bomb/kill is normal in india ,for decades now.
Educated people now want to be killers with killer bombs.This is the great discovery of educated blind false leaders.
Misuse/abuse of intelligence and blindness also in India. Indians are theists and are believers of god like other theists.
Servant of god like nations is good desire. It is desire of many nations.
But actually getting there as a nation may be most difficult thing to accomplish in India.
Only hope in today's world is a nation built with well read/educated/dialogues involved, citizens.
This is the way for citizens to come out of blindness of following the blind.
Citizens must clever enough not to duped into misuse/abuse of their intelligence. They must clever enough, not to be duped into pitfalls of ignorant false leaderships of false leaders.
"
Following faith blindly/wrongly affect the ignorant people a lot and false leaders misuse intelligence to make their followers bomb/kill.
"
Yes. But it is only the muslim faith that commands terror and murder against the unbelievers. Buddhists, Hindus, Christians, Bahais, Jain, Jews (continue at will) do not go to heaven for committing mass murder.
So, yes, you can claim they are misunderstanders of the religion of peace, but it is only one religion that produces all these misunderstanders.
WilliB, this may be true, but for India today there are Hindus just waiting for any opportunity to attack mostly innocent Muslim communities. It has happened again and again. Did you see the film/movie Gandhi? Once they attack, the Muslim communities have to defend themselves. Horrible things start to happen. The BIG PROBLEM is how to calm everyone down, put a stop to the tit-for-tat riots and maintain a mutli-ethnic society. There are small cells on both sides, Hindus and Muslims, who are not above killing their own people in order to create a pretext for starting the ethnic cleansing again. Many Hindus would like to kick the remaining Muslims out of India. Some Muslim leaders are just waiting for such a thing to happen so they can make more DVDs proving that Muslims are discriminated against all over the world, and recruit more young impressionable 'fighters' or suicide bombers.
This is why the leaders of India are appealing for calm now and the use of reason over emotion.
Nandakandamanda- I agree with your arguments. This what we call the cycle of violence in india. Young suicide fighters are now easily recruited via DVDs showing them things that make them become fighters.
Maintaining multi ethnic and multi faiths peace in India, is not easy. The leaders themselves also are to blame for not being pro-active to these kind of conditions/situations. Surely india must know it is not immune to its multifaith problems and challenges.
Manmohan Singh government needs to upgrade and enhance its pro active measures to bring better harmony among multifaiths people of India and also among disgrunted marginised rebelling angry people in India.
"
this may be true, but for India today there are Hindus just waiting for any opportunity to attack mostly innocent Muslim communities. It has happened again and again.
"
What comes first, the chicken or the egg? Yes, Hindus have responded to muslim violence, but politically correct films like "Ghandi" end our media tend to blank out the muslim violence and present Hindu violence in isolation.
Fact is there is no counterpart to the muslim terrorism that India is subjected to to today. And Hindus have a track record for integrating and living peacefully with other communities; that is not something you can say of islam. There is nothing in Hinduism that divides the world into "the house of Hinduism" and "the house of War" and teaches to hate and fight the unbelievers until the whole world is subjected to Hindu holy law.
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rajakumar at 07:00 PM JST - 27th July
WilliB- Dangers in india,is not faiths but ignorance of groups of people about faith. In fact many say sufism in islam came from india.
I believe ignorance of people, is everywhere on the planet. Even in EU, like problems in old yugoslavia.
Other dangers also adding to woes to india.
This are also fairness,education,unemployment,economic injustice, facilities equality, too much escapism movie addicts and weak governance problems among, indian citizens.
If all grassroots problems tackled in stages,for all millions of indian citizens, there will be no space for rebels and their agendas.
Majority of indian millions of people are very gentle and peaceful in land of india. There world is full of problems, india also has its share of woes after independance, even there were problems before independance. They the people of India ,could benefit a lot,if they can get educations agendas going up perfectly, to remove ignorance.
nandakandamanda at 07:06 PM JST - 27th July
rajakumar I like what you said above: "The danger in India is not different faiths but ignorance of groups of people about faith."
Yes, and some people use this ignorance to their selfish and despicable advantage, in the name of faith. This leads to death and unimaginable suffering. Disgusting.
Can the people remain calm in the face of every insult? This is the big question. I certainly hope they can.
some14some at 07:46 PM JST - 27th July
wire reports 'weird' about Chief minister of Narendra Modi
Perhaps in Western Media not in india, he has been elected 3 times (each term 5 years) with landslide victory also he has helped restore BJP govt in more than three Indian Satates.
rightly so, terrorists must not be spared. His stand is no different than the USA.
Having said that, the communal riots must be avoided and terrorists must be captured or killed at any cost.
some14some at 07:47 PM JST - 27th July
ooppss...chief minister of Gujarat Narendra Modi... sorry
rajakumar at 07:52 PM JST - 27th July
nandakandamanda- Ignorance is the problem nanda, we may can help others out ignorance with knowledge, but we can't stop ignorance of spiritual desert . Using other ignorance to their advantage, is ignorance.
Blind leading the blind.
The thing people in india,must take lessons/read on their own,as to how to come out of blindness/ignorance. Mystics and others false blind leaders, are cheating people,because they are ignorant enough to be cheated.
rajakumar at 08:03 PM JST - 27th July
Corrections- Using other's ignorance to their advantage ,by false leaders, is ignorance. Blind leading the blind.
The thing people in india, must do, is take lessons /read/ on their own, as to how to come out blindness/ignorance. Mystics and other false blind leaders are cheating people, because they, the people, are ignorant enough, to be cheated.
adaydream at 11:45 PM JST - 27th July
This really sucks to peace loving Indians. < :-)
adaydream at 01:59 AM JST - 28th July
I was just thinking about my country and the terrorist that I know would take us out.
I have been critical of the CIA and other security agencies, for specific areas, but I'm very proud of the efforts and results they we have in protecting us from bad guys.
I know of a few times we have been saved, because they have made the media. Buy I'm also aware that there are also times we have been saved from attack, that we just aren't told about.
I hope India finds out who did this and protects itself from future attacks. < :-)
WilliB at 11:25 AM JST - 28th July
Rajakumar:
No, my friend. These are not some random buddhists, or hindus, or new-agers who are committing terrorism. These are muslim radicals, acting on the word of their holy book. Read the sura 9 of the koran to get an idea.
NB: The "Indian Mujaheddin" movement has already announced more terrorism to come.
Helter_Skelter at 02:17 PM JST - 28th July
From the article: 16 bombs go off in crowded places; targets including markets, buses and hospitals struggling to treat the victims; 45 dead and 162 wounded; victims had been peppered with red-hot nuts, bolts and ball bearings packed into bombs; Islamist group calling itself the “Indian Mujahedeen” had claimed responsibility for the attacks.
And the best the President of India can come up with is to express her “grief and sorrow” and to maintain peace and harmony? Pathetic. Passive resistance may have worked against the British, but it ain't gonna work against Jihadists. The Indian government does nothing about Islamic terrorism and its citizens suffer. Sounds like they're going to continue to this tradition.
rajakumar at 09:39 PM JST - 28th July
Attack Leaves 45 dead
WillieB-Following faith blindly/wrongly affect the ignorant people a lot and false leaders misuse intelligence to make their followers bomb/kill.
The modern civilisation in India has many defects, in spiritualty. India still remains a polished cats/dogs civilisation of a lot of illiterate citizens.
Indian people real intelligence also has been taken away. Blind fools following the blind leaders to bomb/kill is normal in india ,for decades now.
Educated people now want to be killers with killer bombs.This is the great discovery of educated blind false leaders.
Misuse/abuse of intelligence and blindness also in India. Indians are theists and are believers of god like other theists.
Servant of god like nations is good desire. It is desire of many nations.
But actually getting there as a nation may be most difficult thing to accomplish in India.
Only hope in today's world is a nation built with well read/educated/dialogues involved, citizens.
This is the way for citizens to come out of blindness of following the blind.
Citizens must clever enough not to duped into misuse/abuse of their intelligence. They must clever enough, not to be duped into pitfalls of ignorant false leaderships of false leaders.
WilliB at 01:25 PM JST - 29th July
rajakumar:
Yes. But it is only the muslim faith that commands terror and murder against the unbelievers. Buddhists, Hindus, Christians, Bahais, Jain, Jews (continue at will) do not go to heaven for committing mass murder.
So, yes, you can claim they are misunderstanders of the religion of peace, but it is only one religion that produces all these misunderstanders.
nandakandamanda at 01:45 PM JST - 29th July
WilliB, this may be true, but for India today there are Hindus just waiting for any opportunity to attack mostly innocent Muslim communities. It has happened again and again. Did you see the film/movie Gandhi? Once they attack, the Muslim communities have to defend themselves. Horrible things start to happen. The BIG PROBLEM is how to calm everyone down, put a stop to the tit-for-tat riots and maintain a mutli-ethnic society. There are small cells on both sides, Hindus and Muslims, who are not above killing their own people in order to create a pretext for starting the ethnic cleansing again. Many Hindus would like to kick the remaining Muslims out of India. Some Muslim leaders are just waiting for such a thing to happen so they can make more DVDs proving that Muslims are discriminated against all over the world, and recruit more young impressionable 'fighters' or suicide bombers.
This is why the leaders of India are appealing for calm now and the use of reason over emotion.
rajakumar at 03:52 PM JST - 29th July
Nandakandamanda- I agree with your arguments. This what we call the cycle of violence in india. Young suicide fighters are now easily recruited via DVDs showing them things that make them become fighters.
Maintaining multi ethnic and multi faiths peace in India, is not easy. The leaders themselves also are to blame for not being pro-active to these kind of conditions/situations. Surely india must know it is not immune to its multifaith problems and challenges.
Manmohan Singh government needs to upgrade and enhance its pro active measures to bring better harmony among multifaiths people of India and also among disgrunted marginised rebelling angry people in India.
WilliB at 01:17 AM JST - 30th July
nandakanda:
What comes first, the chicken or the egg? Yes, Hindus have responded to muslim violence, but politically correct films like "Ghandi" end our media tend to blank out the muslim violence and present Hindu violence in isolation.
Fact is there is no counterpart to the muslim terrorism that India is subjected to to today. And Hindus have a track record for integrating and living peacefully with other communities; that is not something you can say of islam. There is nothing in Hinduism that divides the world into "the house of Hinduism" and "the house of War" and teaches to hate and fight the unbelievers until the whole world is subjected to Hindu holy law.
rajakumar:
Spare your Taqqiva.
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