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  Betzee at 07:07 AM JST - 3rd July

  Indonesia has eschewed the use of torture with quite results since the 2001 bombings.

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  WilliB at 12:03 PM JST - 3rd July

  "quite results" like the Bali bombing, the introduction of Shariah in Aceh, the dozens of attacks on churches, and the steady growth of Jemaa Islamaya? Some quite results, indeed.

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  Betzee at 06:42 PM JST - 3rd July

  I meant "quite good" of course (and had the Bali bombings in 2001 when thry occurred in 2002).

  To arrive at that conclusion you need a comparison which would be the Mindanao, the Muslim part of the Philippines which is very close to Indonesia and Malaysia but has experienced a lot less violence:

  In contrast to the Philippines, where the United States is backing a more militarized approach, Indonesia has taken a different tack, in which terrorist suspects are treated well and encouraged to defect or to share information.

  Indonesia explains that its friendly handling of detainees will make its government seem less of an enemy of Islam. The Indonesian police are skillful interrogators, their Western counterparts say, and there have been no credible reports of torture being used in Indonesia to break the rings or win the prosecutions.

  At the same time, the Indonesian government has been sentencing some prominent captives to long prison terms. Zarkasih, who uses one name and is believed to have been the leader of Jemaah Islamiyah from 2005 until his arrest last year, was sentenced in April to 15 years in prison. Abu Dujana, a deputy who led the group’s military arm and was also arrested last year, was also sentenced to 15 years.

  http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/09/world/asia/09terror.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=philippines%20indonesia%20terror&st=cse&oref=slogin

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  Betzee at 06:48 PM JST - 3rd July

  but has experienced a lot less violence

  Oops, a lot more violence in Mindanao than Indonesia! The former has a travel advisory in effect. The JI training camps have been moved to the Philippines owing to Indonesia's success in infiltrating the movement.

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