Indonesia rejects clemency appeals; ready to execute 7 foreigners

Do the crime...

"Do the crime..."

Sure if it's a violent crime. Kill someone or touch a child and I can't argue with it. But drugs!? The fact remains that other than Japan and the US, the world's cap-punishment states are not exactly a good bunch of regimes.

Do the crime...

Would you say the same for a woman being stoned to death for adultery in an Islamic country? In the same vein, this is objectively an extremely disproportionate penalty for the crime.

Indonesia has the right to set and maintain it's own was and standards for crime. The fact that they execute drug smugglers has been very, very well known for a long time and certainly these people knew that when they decided to chance fate.

Australia has started to kick up a fuss in relation to this, and most disturbingly have started to show signs of taking a nationalistic flavoured 'us versus them' stance as the media have begun to portray convicted heroin smugglers as victims of Indonesian injustice. That is complete rubbish, in my opinion.

Do not expect clemency for muslim terrorists either.

Indonesia rejects clemency appeals; ready to execute 7 foreigners

Deal in drugs and pay the price, at least these folks won't even have a chance to hear their deaths.

bubonic_chronicJan. 29, 2015 - 04:32PM JST Do the crime... Would you say the same for a woman being stoned to death for adultery in an Islamic country?

It's their laws and not ours, as long as they don't try and impose their laws and beliefs onto us they can do whatever the heck they want to their own people.

If their people wake up from their insanity one day and decide that they are sick and tired of their rulers outdated laws then that is up to them. But, until then folks in those nations will have to deal with their laws.

bubonic_chronicJan. 29, 2015 - 04:32PM JST In the same vein, this is objectively an extremely disproportionate penalty for the crime.

The Bali Nine were trafficking in heroin, if you have never seen the damage heroin does to a community I would suggest you look into it and see the harm it does.

Heroin is one of the worst drugs out there and folks who traffic in it should be punished severely for their crimes.

http://www.heroinadvisor.co.uk/news/51_the-devastation-heroin-addiction.htm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2589612/Shocking-images-devastating-physical-toll-drugs-take.html

no sympathy at all for them. if you travelling to Indonesia you should know exactly what your carrying in your bags, even if its just a simple asprin. anybody caught with or carrying drugs for somebody shouldnt be surprised when they face the firing squad

JOE BIGS and WTFJapan are 100% correct!!! We are supposed to feel sorry for HEROIN drug dealers??? Sorry folks, we should be THANKING INDONESIA!!! They have their OWN LAWS, if you do not like those DRUG and DEATH PENALTY LAWS, stay in your own country and do not try your luck in countries like Indonesia!!!

I feel sorry for everyone involved but, You should know the risks of such actions when going to other countries. My only fear is that some of these might actually be innocent.

It's ridiculous that drugs are even illegal at all. If someone wants to poison themselves with heroin, they should be able to. Having the death penalty for drugs is even more ridiculous.

That all said, it's pretty well known that drugs are illegal in S.E. Asian nations, so if you do so, you should be prepared to face the death penalty if you get caught. It's not like they keep their laws and punishment a secret. So I don't have a lot of sympathy for anyone who gets busted then starts freaking out because they are going to be executed. Sure the execution is wrong, but if you knew it would happen before doing the crime, then it doesn't matter how wrong it is, you knew it would happen.

Do the crime...

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When in Rome....

When you arrive at the airport in Bali and read a big sign that says "Death Penalty for drug offenses", you should take that to be a serious threat.

While it is "their" law, it is fine for other countries to protest it. Really think Japan should rethink its relations with them. Indonesia killing drug dealers but being soft on terrorism. I will never visit there as there is a chance someone may put drugs in my checked luggage. On my last Southwest flight someone stole all of my underwear. Left the valuables but took my underwear including the unwashed. So the unmerciful ones should take this into account.

More like- When in Rome....

Get crucified like a Roman? Should seriously cause people to reconsider visiting this place.

Make them take their own drugs for a while first, let them go through the withdrawal symptoms, then hang them.

kcjapan: Sure if it's a violent crime. Kill someone or touch a child and I can't argue with it. But drugs!?

Google "meth before after": http://tinyurl.com/lcspqjj

Also:

http://www.cdc.gov/homeandrecreationalsafety/overdose/facts.html

Deaths from drug overdose have been rising steadily over the past two decades and have become the leading cause of injury death in the United States. Every day in the United States, 120 people die as a result of drug overdose,8 and another 6,748 are treated in emergency departments (ED) for the misuse or abuse of drugs. ... Drug overdose was the leading cause of injury death in 2012. Among people 25 to 64 years old, drug overdose caused more deaths than motor vehicle traffic crashes. ... In 2013, of the 43,982 drug overdose deaths in the United States, 22,767 (51.8%) were related to pharmaceuticals. ...

To the people downplaying the seriousness of drug trafficking: Not only does turbostat bring up a good point about overdoses, there are countless people (law enforcement, drug traffickers, and yes, innocent people) each year who are killed because of the drug industry due to enforcement, turf/gang wars, other illegal activities that support drugs, etc etc. Drug trafficking is far from being a victimless crime.

Drug users should be cured drug sellers should be executed. Only if some poor wretch can prove that he or she was forced to handle drugs under serious threat to ones life or ones children life they should be forgiven but even then only if they can show the higher ups in the chain.

Drug users should be cured drug sellers should be executed.

So you feel that the governments of all western nations should be executed? After all, they are all selling the drug alcohol.

there are countless people (law enforcement, drug traffickers, and yes, innocent people) each year who are killed because of the drug industry due to enforcement, turf/gang wars, other illegal activities that support drugs, etc etc. Drug trafficking is far from being a victimless crime.

Exactly, which is why governments should regulate drugs, and treat addiction as a health issue rather than a criminal one, in order to eliminate the black market around drugs. Particularly as the black market is more dangerous than the drugs themselves a lot of the time.

This is a tough issue I was going to be very supportive but I thought of the fury that would arrise if for example an American woman was stoned to death in a backwards middle eastern country.

Drug trafficking is a heinous crime. So is execution condoned by the state.