Beijing restaurant removes 'racist' sign after fury, but manager refuses to apologize

The requested article has expired, and is no longer available. Any related articles, and user comments are shown below.

  • 16

    Cos

    China's embarrassing dumbie of the week.

  • -30

    TheDevilsAssistant

    So make signs around Japan, the PI and Vietnam banning Chinese from different establishments.

  • 21

    OssanAmerica

    Chinese making friends all over Asia. What's worrisome is that this guy isn't pounded by everyone on CHINESE websites.

  • -2

    Elbuda Mexicano

    “Blatant racism at Beijing Restaurant,” journalist Veronica Pedrosa wrote in one widely-shared tweet, while Facebook user Rey Garcia used a comment thread on a news site to retort: “Who cares, they almost cook everything, even fetus and fingernails.” - Ok, so China with over a BILLION people just proves that a small % of them have crap for brains, and as for me, I think I will stick to the Sweet and Sour Pork, and pass on the human baby fetus and human fingernails this time around.

  • -10

    TheDevilsAssistant

    Or better yet, Japan should place this sign on the Senkaku's...

    “This island does not receive the Chinese and dog(s).”

  • 6

    Jimizo

    This is the work of one idiot nationalist. Any tit-for-tat nonsense is counterproductive. I work for a manufacturing company and have become sick and tired of narrow-minded idiots poisoning the atmosphere between Asian countries and putting my job at risk ( I'm not exaggerating here, I truly wish I were ). I've been refused entry into a bar ( not hostess or strip ) in Japan and China, but have the good sense not to judge the country as a whole based on the feelings of a few Neanderthals.

  • -2

    TheDevilsAssistant

    have the good sense not to judge the country as a whole based on the feelings of a few Neanderthals.

    Although I agree with this statement, I tend to wonder who the Neanderthals really are? ....Ramming the Japanese CG, burning Japanese owned companies, bullying a Japanese Official, blah blah blah. etc etc...

  • -7

    tmarie

    So one owner and folks jump on this as a Chinese issue? Good lord! The owner is an idiot but why far and feather the entire country? If we all did that...

  • 2

    Virtuoso

    A sign supposedly reading “No Dogs and Chinese allowed” became part of Communist propaganda after it was said to have hung outside a park in Shanghai when Western powers controlled parts of China.

    The reporter was correct to use "supposedly." I've seen photos of the sign. It was a list of several park rules, and included among them (on separate lines) was text banning dogs and Chinese. Interestingly, however, the foreign residents of Shanghai objected to the banning of the latter because so many of their nannies were Chinese who escorted children to the park. So the rule was promptly rescinded and the park began charging a small fee for use, upon which nobody at all went there. Sorry, I don't have a link for this, but it's mentioned in the autobiographical work "Shanghai Lawyer" by Norwood Allman, publ. in 1942.

  • 1

    Virtuoso

    For those who are interested, there's a photo of the actual sign (posted in 1917) in Wiki, and Chinese aren't even mentioned. It says the park is "reserved for the foreign community." Just google Huangpu Park.

  • 0

    Pukey2

    devil:

    So make signs around Japan, the PI and Vietnam banning Chinese from different establishments.

    Er, I better tell you now. Japan has had those signs for a long time. Need I mention certain onsens, snack bars and hostess clubs. The only difference is that you, even as a non-Chinese, wouldn't be allowed in.

    tmarie:

    So one owner and folks jump on this as a Chinese issue? Good lord! The owner is an idiot but why far and feather the entire country? If we all did that...

    Yes, using the other posters' logic, it must mean that every single Japanese hates foreigners.

  • -1

    SauloJpn

    The dog part was last because they were reluctant about it!!! LOL I would say: You don't my money I don't want your food!!! This is not an issue we, non Chinese, should be angry about, the other locals should be pissed for having a racist pig among them giving everybody a bad name.

  • 2

    Xeno23

    How quaint. Pre-Internet flame/troll technology...

  • 16

    Nessie

    Just when you think China is 50 years behind, they go and double up.

  • 0

    TheDevilsAssistant

    Japan has had those signs for a long time. Need I mention certain onsens, snack bars and hostess clubs. The only difference is that you, even as a non-Chinese, wouldn't be allowed in.

    The only thing different with those signs is that they say' foreigners'. The signs do not say, No French, No Americans, No Brasilians, etc... If the Chinese mentality is (and I do understand that it is one shop owner) banning certain nationalities based over island disputes, then lets play the little kid games with them.

    As for me, I do not really care if there is a sign that stops me from entering an establishment in Japan, Chima, or any other country for that matter. No heartburn for me.

  • 4

    Alex Einz

    do they serve dogs ?

  • 8

    ambrosia

    It's an ignorant, racist sign and obviously shouldn't exist in a country of such diversity and ever increasing world power, or any country for that matter. I have to say though that it reminded me of how some landlords and estate agents in Japan used to have signs saying: petto, mizushobai, gaijijn fuka. No pets, prostitutes or foreigners allowed.

  • 0

    Fugacis

    Ugly, ignorant and racist sign. Completely and utterly. It reminds me of the "No dogs, no blacks, no Irish" signs my grandparents recounted being confronted by in England in the 1950s. It also reminds me of the many "Japanese Only: No foreigners allowed" signs in Japan. http://www.debito.org/roguesgallery.html

    Maybe the solution is to sue them to oblivion, like Debito did so successfully, but I don't China is the nation to enforce that. In which case what's needed is a brick through the window and occupation. Where the law fails, direct action must kick in.

  • 5

    Yubaru

    The signs do not say, No French, No Americans, No Brasilians, etc...

    All depends where you live. I've personally seen one's that say NO AMERICANS allowed.

  • 10

    slumdog

    “This shop does not receive dog(s).”

    They just serve them.

  • 12

    Chin4Sailor

    So make signs around Japan, the PI and Vietnam banning Chinese from different establishments.

    Just FYI, in case you didn't know, Japan has many places with the same kinds of signs, except they say, "Japanese Only"

    Discrimination against foreigners is 100-percent legal in Japan, even in public / government owned buildings, ect...

  • 6

    humanrights

    HAHA, I have seen the same signs in Japan. ''NO FOREIGNERS'' whats the difference??

  • 1

    Jimizo

    @tmarie Good post - clear logic. I'm just wondering why you got the thumbs down. I get the sense that some posters will jump on anything which doesn't completely vilify the Chinese. Not too dissimilar to the bloody-minded, one-dimensional thinking that they attribute to China.

  • 4

    bannedacctsam

    Japanese shops have "No Americans Allowed"

    Why isn't that being reported along with this story?

  • -3

    bannedacctsam

    Glad they didn't banned Americans because I LOVE CHINESE FOOD!

    Seriously, I've been to the forbidden city and there are tons of other eateries who would be happy to serve you,

  • 1

    sidesmile

    As some have mentioned above this should not lead to painting the entirety of China racist. Any establishment that does this can obviously afford to turn away perfectly good business so dont concern oneself and take your hard earned cash somewhere else. The whole "look what china did this time!" and "its chinas fault!" is boring and purile...unfortunately I hear it every single day. I think I might post a sign on my desk saying "No ignorant, closed-minded, humorless, mannerless, codescending people will be entertained here. And sheep." I give it less than a day before someone complains.

  • 3

    hidingout

    If Mr Wang is prepared to forgo the income from the groups of people he has banned from his shop then let him go ahead with his sign.

    I believe private owners should have the right to choose their clientele.

  • 1

    House Atreides

    A sign supposedly reading "No Dogs and Chinese allowed" became part of Communist propaganda after it was said to have hung outside a park in Shanghai when Western powers controlled parts of China.

    Chinese making up more stories. The actual sign read: "The Gardens are reserved for the Foreign Community", and "Dogs and bicycles are not admitted." Just another fine example of un cuento chino.

  • 0

    alimel1969

    It could be worse. At least you know where this guy stands. Better this than entering his establishment, order your lunch, while he shows his best phony smiling face and having him tamper with your food.

  • 0

    Elbuda Mexicano

    Human rights must be a low priority out in China!

  • 0

    Elbuda Mexicano

    If we see racist propaganda, in Japan, China, the USA etc...let them know how you feel by not giving them any of your $$$$$!!!€€€!!£££!!¥¥¥¥!!!!

  • 0

    Sabrage

    When sales plummet, this restaurant may be on Gordon Ramsay's "KItchen Nightmares - Beijing".

  • -3

    megosaa

    So one owner and folks jump on this as a Chinese issue? Good lord! The owner is an idiot but why far and feather the entire country? If we all did that...

    Because the entire country DID NOTHING. no apology from their government, no Chinese condemning this. seems that the whole country took a nod to this stunt.

  • -2

    Surf O'Holic

    Instead, he should have posted the ubiquitous sign seen in USA: "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone."

  • -1

    FPSRussia

    This is ugly. However I have been here long enough to have seen exactly the same signs in Japan.

    Just a fact, no intention to insult. I've seen these signs in Japan.

  • 2

    Zenpun

    A sign supposedly reading “No Dogs and Chinese allowed” -

    In early 20th century, Shanghai was booming. There were many recreational parks and entertainment venues which were catering only foreigners. That sign have really existed for separation between well off foreigners and impoverished local residents. Male Chinese were so poor and backward. Some of them still have Manchu style pig tail .

  • 5

    Droll Quarry

    The shop owner just made it a bit more specific in his sign. A lot of Japanese shops have signs that say "Japanese only" and they don't get roasted on the internet. Racism is alive and well in Japan too.

  • 1

    EastAsiaForeigner

    "When sales plummet, this restaurant may be on Gordon Ramsay's "KItchen Nightmares - Beijing".

    I think Chef Ramsay might lose his mind due to the number of unsanitary restaurants in China. East Asians should be helping each other out...

  • 2

    pointofview

    When you live in homogeneous societies they can pretty much put up any sign they like in reference to ethnicities. In multicultural countries this would affect ones business but in places like Japan and China where 99% of the population look the same it`s not a problem.

  • 4

    ambrosia

    OctagonFEB. 28, 2013 - 01:54PM JST During the crown prince wedding ceremony, foreigners were not allowed either. It was not inflammatory issue or discrimination for foreigners.

    Uhhh ... then what exactly would you call it? Really, it just boggles the mind the way people can twist things to make them seem justifiable.

  • -1

    smithinjapan

    theDevil'sAdvocate: "So make signs around Japan, the PI and Vietnam banning Chinese from different establishments."

    Japan already, sadly, has some of these signs here and there, and some do specify 'Chinese' or what have you. I seem to recall one sign for a public bath or something saying: "No Foreigners, No Chinese, No Gangs". In any case, I'm glad that guy had to take it down, though of course he hasn't changed the mentality that saw it up in the first place.

  • 0

    dudeyes

    Its interesting how the Chinese shop owner wrote it in both Chinese and English, as though he wanted the whole world to know what he was thinking. His staunch refusal to apologize is also an indicator that along with being a racist, he;s pretty damn arrogant too. But if this sign weren't in English too, would it have even been noticed? I remember the signs outside an Audi dealer in China after the Anti Japanese riots that proclaimed death to all Japanese - apparently this Beijing restaurant owner is not alone. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-20/audi-says-it-regrets-anti-japan-photo-at-china-dealership.html I think his sentiment is much more widespread than many here would care to admit.

  • -1

    Wakarimasen

    This place makes good food, so pity that they are so exclusive.

  • -1

    slumdog

    “Maybe people misunderstood our meaning… it only said we would not serve customers from those countries,”

    ...and dogs.

  • -6

    Octagon

    ambrosia

    Uhhh ... then what exactly would you call it? Really, it just boggles the mind the way people can twist things to make them seem justifiable. -

    Perhaps, we can call it as preserving of the privacy of royal affair. It is absolutely not about racial discrimination or inflammatory treatment of foreigners. Both of them are well traveled and friendly with foreigners.

  • 3

    Nessie

    do they serve dogs ?

    They serve dog, but not dogs.

  • 1

    Crazedinjapan

    Putting up signs of the same context would make us look just as ignorant as that store owner . Two wrongs doesn't make it right. Be a step above and employ reverse psychology and welcome Chinese patrons just to one up them on demonstrating racism isn't tolerated.

    Like Pukey stated above this happens here now and there are signs that I've seen outside establishments here that forbid entry to foreign nationals. Not every district as well has rules against these places putting them up and if you do complain where the rules exist the police will "kindly" insist you find another place rather than impose the fine on that business.

    For the Japanese that get upset over this why don't you as a group go around and motivate the businesses here to campaign on welcoming or endorsing foreign patronage you might find out exactly how disturbing it really is for is not to be able to get a hotel room , go to a onsen , bar and such

  • 3

    ambrosia

    Octogon: Perhaps, we can call it as preserving of the privacy of royal affair. It is absolutely not about racial discrimination or inflammatory treatment of foreigners.

    Perhaps you can call it whatever you want. I'll call it what it is and with no apologies. That they'd feel the need to make a point of explicitly excluding "foreigners" is absolutely about discrimination. You can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig.

    Both of them are well traveled and friendly with foreigners.

    Sorry but that sounds like the classic line "I don't hate ______ some of my best friends are ____".

  • 3

    ChibaChick

    Well, at least hes honest about it. I have been out with foreign male friends of mine before in Tokyo and been with them when they were refused entry to various places. They were doing nothing wrong, perfectly polite, and all professionals (pilots) but they didnt speak Japanese (unlike me) and when I asked the staff of the mostly empty restaurant in Japanese what the problem was they wouldnt give me an answer. I was ashamed and embarrassed to be showing them around my home country and them getting treatment like that.

  • 0

    SuperLib

    It's one person. Don't make it worse.

  • -2

    megosaa

    do they serve dogs ?

    It says on the sign "RECEIVE", not "SERVE". imagine ...that would be 共食い.

  • -2

    Alex Einz

    dont see any problem.. exactly the same as " Japanese only " sign...everyone is entitled to their own preference in their private establishment

  • -1

    Alex Einz

    maybe a bit over nationalistic but I wouldnt call it racist.

  • 1

    WilliB

    SuperLib:

    " It's one person. Don't make it worse. "

    ...but not one Chinese person complained to him, or did I misread the article. That shows that this is NOT just the problem of "one person".

  • 3

    lucabrasi

    While this isn't the kind of thing any normal person wants to see, I'd reckon it's less objectionable than the "Japanese only" or the "No foreigners" signs we see here. This guy is simply banning people from countries involved in territorial disputes with China; he's doing it for a reason, not out of blind racism.

    "Japanese only" signs are simply exclusionary, based on straightforward prejudice.

  • 1

    ambrosia

    lucabrasi: While this isn't the kind of thing any normal person wants to see, I'd reckon it's less objectionable than the "Japanese only" or the "No foreigners" signs we see here. This guy is simply banning people from countries involved in territorial disputes with China; he's doing it for a reason, not out of blind racism.

    "Japanese only" signs are simply exclusionary, based on straightforward prejudice.

    How is it any less objectionable or less prejudice? Prejudice means exactly what it sounds like, to pre-judge someone. Since this restaurant owner can't possible claim to know the 300,000,000+ Japanese, Vietnamese and Filipinos, what exactly is he doing by banning all of them but pre-judging them based on the few he's met or what he thinks he knows about them based on the news or other media? And let's not pretend to be naive. Adding "and dog(s)" to his sign punctuates his message loudly and clearly.

    • Moderator

      Readers, references to similar signs in Japan are not relevant to this discussion.

  • 0

    Jimizo

    I don't think the ludicrous world of royal protocol or tradition is a fair reflection of attitudes towards foreigners in society as a whole.

  • 0

    Japan Yesterday

    The restaurant sign provoked an outcry in Vietnam and the Philippines

    Seems like the Japanese aren't upset about this sign. Perhaps it's because they can't read the Chinese ...or English.

  • -1

    ambrosia

    Jimizo: We'll agree on these words "the ludicrous world of royal protocol" and leave it at that.

  • 2

    lucabrasi

    @ambrosia

    How is it any less objectionable or less prejudiced? Prejudice means exactly what it sounds like, to pre-judge someone. Since this restaurant owner can't possible claim to know the 300,000,000+ Japanese, Vietnamese and Filipinos, what exactly is he doing by banning all of them but pre-judging them based on the few he's met or what he thinks he knows about them based on the news or other media?

    My point was that he's not "pre-judging" anyone. He's simply saying that, while China is involved in a territorial dispute with certain countries, he doesn't want those countries' citizens in his restaurant. Nothing to do with individuals, everything to do with governments. I'm not defending him for a moment; the "dogs" part of the message is a clear insult, but at least his actions have a base in reality, unlike "No foreigners" signs.

    Surely it's better to be told "You can't come in because you're a UK citizen and Argentina is involved in a dispute with your government over the Malvinas", than "You can't come in because you're a gringo." No?

  • 1

    warallthetime

    Since when are Japanese, Filipino, and Vietnamese considered a "race"? The word racist gets thrown around incorrectly way too much.

  • -3

    ambrosia

    Surely it's better to be told "You can't come in because you're a UK citizen and Argentina is involved in a dispute with your government over the Malvinas", than "You can't come in because you're a gringo." No?

    No! They're equally ridiculous and equally objectionable. To hold individuals up as representatives of their countries' policies and to discriminate against them because of you object to those policies is discrimination, pure and simple. You can keep spinning it all you like but eventually you're going to get dizzy.

  • -2

    ambrosia

    warallthetime: Since when are Japanese, Filipino, and Vietnamese considered a "race"? The word racist gets thrown around incorrectly way too much

    You certainly have a good point and we should be more careful about the use of that word. I think that most posters are using it to mean people who share a common history, culture, language, etc. not to mean some kind of physical delineation of people. At least, I hope that's what people mean.

  • 2

    hatsoff

    The manager, surnamed Wang, said it was taken down “because it was a lot of bother”.

    His first name is Ker, and you know they always say their surnames first.

    Racism is always shameful, wherever it occurs. Bedsits in 1950s and '60s London used to have signs in the windows saying, No Irish, No Blacks, No Dogs (also the title of Johnny Rotten's autobiography).

  • -2

    avigator

    Wrong way to state your case. There are two ways to do it. One is through boycott. There other is through educational persuasion. He could have provided continuous TV documentaries showing China's propaganda, (or points of view). Chances are they might stay away anyway.

  • 0

    Meguroman

    He's serving food, not judicial rulings, medical care, employment or housing. In fact, he's serving stuff that few people would go out of their way to eat (pig what..?!?). Free speech from a small business owner who just got a ton of free publicity.

  • 3

    Serrano

    Hey, if the restaurant manager doesn't want Japanese, Filipinos/Filipinas, Vietnamese or dogs in his restaurant, the restaurant loses those customers. What about aliens? Are they still welcome?

  • -2

    tideofiron

    I've been to restaurants like this and the food is usually pretty bad. I think it's because the manager is so busy thinking about this kind of crap rather than focusing on the issue of making good food and running a decent shop. Usually these kinds of places die out pretty quickly or they eke out a poverty-line existence for years and years.

  • 0

    KnowBetter

    "This shop does not receive dog(s)."

    Oh I'm sure they do but most likely via the back door... I'm just saying what you're all thinking. :P

  • 2

    HonestDictator

    This isn't 'racist' it is racist... Japanese is the ethnicity of Japan and Vietnamese is the ethnicity of Vietnam. Directly targeting people for their ethnicity is racist.

  • 1

    whiskeysour

    What about cats monkeys and zebras ? Can they come in and eat his slop ?

  • -3

    Konsta

    OssanAmericaFeb. 28, 2013 - 10:29PM JST... it was due to military crowds being drunk and rowdy. In Hokkaido it was because of Russian merchant seamen behaving in a similar manner. In either case, the motive is clearly completely different from specifically targeting nationalities that your country has territorial disputes with, ie; simply nationalism.

    There is always an explanation why a racist and nationalist hates and discriminates against others. It is never because they are Japanese or Vietnamese or Russians, but always because they are drunk and rowdy, dirty, speaking loudly foreign languages and scaring "white" clients. Japan may be able to learn a lot, looking in a Chinese mirror.

  • 0

    Kabukilover

    This is not simply a problem of one person out of a billion being an ignorant bigot. There has not been a single word of outrage from within the People's Republic over this. This leads me to conclude that either the Chinese are bigots or that bigotry is not important to bother with. It also brings up the question of whether Chinese nationals have a right to discriminate against non-citizens. Whatever the case, this guy has done his country a bad turn. There are no doubt millions of Chinese restaurants that would love to serve you and your dog pig offal soup with gravy but we don't see them or hear from them over here. We just hear from this creep. Until we hear otherwise he is by default the voice of China.

  • 0

    WilliB

    Konsta:

    " Japan may be able to learn a lot, looking in a Chinese mirror. "

    No, the hyped-up rabid nationalism in China is not a "mirror" for Japan. As others have pointed out already, the signs in Japan have a different background and do without the insult.

  • 1

    isoducky

    As racist as this is and as much attention it has received, rather than cry foul I wish people would adopt a few policies

    1. Don't spend money on people who have no respect for you.
    2. Don't spend money on people you don't like.

    There are too many alternatives to waste money on a person who, while is good at their craft, has no respect for the individual.

  • -1

    Elbuda Mexicano

    If a restaurant, airline (American Airlines) etc..do not treat you well, let them know you think they SUCK! I would never go to such a crappy Chinese restaurant and if possible would avoid the crappy service at AA like the Ebola virus! IMHO

  • -1

    Tony Ew

    Headline News. Must be a slow news day! This guy is just a pimple in China, why is this blown out of proportion? I definitely do not agree with what he did and of course it is offensive. Blame it on the news media for hyping this insignificant event. There is no pattern, not state sponsored, just one stupid Chinaman expressing his anger, that's all!

    Oh yes, he do not need to apologize to anybody who feel offended. He did not commit any crime, just doing something in bad taste. ( he should just focus on cooking! )

  • 0

    Xeno23

    It's a small, local triumph to have the sign taken down; it shows the immediate population that this kind of thinking isn't good. It's also good that on a wider stage, this is not condoned and widely disdained, because when bad behavior - no matter how seemingly insignificant, is shown to be in error and corrected; it's a win. A long journey begins with a single step - now, where did that idea come from?

  • 1

    Aaron Loki Brummett

    Better not to appolagize if you don't mean it. (Google auto correct on :)

    I would rather someone be honest about racist beleifs then lie to me. He has integrity.

  • 1

    Realistic

    ok...but you guys should at least spare the dogs!

  • -1

    sfjp330

    Aaron Loki Brummett Mar. 01, 2013 - 04:11AM JST I would rather someone be honest about racist beleifs then lie to me. He has integrity.

    He has integrity of being a racist? Maybe he shouldn't be running a business if he cannot treat everyone equally. Compare to international community, China is still operating in 1960's philosophy. What this store manager did is what blacks in the south experienced up to fifity to sixty years ago with segregation. At least blacks could eat in the separate dining area, use separate restroom, and sit in the back of the bus. What Chinese goverment is doing is saying this is ok and we will turn our heads. They making big mistake by not closing this restaurant.

  • 1

    xandirules

    Nationalists are idiots.

    It does not matter if chinese japanese or else.

  • 1

    Minh Tran

    "This shop does not receive the Japanese, the Vietnamese, the Philippines, and dog" Everyone knows that China have territorial disputes with Japan, the Philippines and Vietnam, so that is reason why Chinese hate them - it's understandable. However, I cannot understand why Chinese people hate dogs?

  • 0

    sfjp330

    Minh Tran Mar. 01, 2013 - 09:42AM JST Everyone knows that China have territorial disputes with Japan, the Philippines and Vietnam, so that is reason why Chinese hate them - it's understandable.

    Hate who? Everybody that has dispute with China? Do you want Vietnamese or Philippinos to hate Chinese because they have territorial issue? As a individual, the political problems will always be there between countries. However, In a civilized society, especially if you run a business, you have to treat each one of them equally. There is no room for racist actions in places like restaurants. Maybe China has long ways to go and it really shows. The Chinese goverment is accepting this behavior which is not acceptable by western standards.

  • -2

    Kimokekahuna Hawaii

    a restaurant owner can refuse service to anyone he wants just like in Japan.. the irony is that they serve DOG and CAT

  • -1

    dragon1971

    The restaurant manager must apologize, he really must. I will never forgive him untill he apologize to the DOG!!! this is an absolute insult to all dogs (even mad dogs) to treat them the same way as Japanese! dogs should be allowed for the service!

  • 0

    25psot

    He remove sing from the door but he didn't remove hatred from his heart, because he refuse to apologize better don't eat there anyway.

  • 0

    Weasel

    Didn't totally understand the sign, as it was written in the language of the ignorant.

Login to leave a comment

OR

More in World

View all

View all