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Iran hangs 29 convicted of rape, drug trafficking, murder

World Jul. 27, 2008 - 04:47PM JST ( 22 )

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LIBERTASJul. 27, 2008 - 07:13PM JST

Just imagine if even ONE of these had the lost Japanese Customs drugs in their bags!
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ExPrinceskaJul. 27, 2008 - 08:25PM JST

I guess Japan hangs more people than Iran. Anybody has statistics?
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SargeJul. 27, 2008 - 09:00PM JST

"the notorious Evin prison"

Why is it notorious?
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ZybsterJul. 27, 2008 - 09:10PM JST

ExPrinceska, Google is your friend. You're not exactly right, Japan is not even in the same league with Iran. Take a look at the numbers taken from the Amnesty International:

http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/ACT50/001/2008/en/b43a1e5a-ffea-11dc-b092-bdb020617d3d/act500012008eng.html

4 . Reports of executions in 2007 Country Executions CHINA 470+ IRAN 317+ SAUDI ARABIA 143+ PAKISTAN 135+ USA 42 IRAQ 33+ VIET NAM 25+ YEMEN 15+ AFGHANISTAN 15 LIBYA 9+ JAPAN 9 SYRIA 7+
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ExPrinceskaJul. 27, 2008 - 09:15PM JST

Thank, Zybster.

Japan and the USA are in a very nice company indeed. hahahaha USA is between Iran and Iraq and Japan is between Libiya and Syriya. Welcome to the democratic world.
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westurnJul. 27, 2008 - 09:23PM JST

"The television said the 29 were hanged at dawn inside the notorious Evin prison, north of the capital Tehran. The broadcast said the convicts included those found guilty of murder, rape, armed robbery and drug trafficking. The hangings were carried out at 5:10 a.m., after the death verdicts were ratified by the country’s Supreme Court, the report said."

Good for Iran ! Nothing wrong with ridding your nation of convicted felons, murderers, and rapists ! But alas... what would Mohammad say ?
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ZybsterJul. 27, 2008 - 09:53PM JST

ExPrinceska, you summarized it very neatly, that as very amusing. However, blame it on the Amnesty International: the numbers are not final. Where you see a "+" (plus) sign next to the number it means that this is the highest verified number, and it is estimated to be higher, but the exact number is not known. For example, it is said that the number of people executed in China goes in thousands, close to 5000 or so, but that cannot be independently verified. As our friends at Wikipedia say,

"Six countries (China, Iran, Pakistan, Iraq, Sudan and the United States) account for 91 percent of the reported world total number of executions. Of 1,591 confirmed executions in 25 countries worldwide, at least 1,010 people were executed in China during 2007. The sheer size of the Chinese population is such that when a comparison of the percentage of population executed is made the situation in China appears to be disproportionately large. Iran (0.25 per 100,000) executes more prisoners per capita. The exact numbers of people executed in China is classified as a state secret."

That is why where you see the "+" (plus) sign it is estimated to be much higher. The real numbers may shuffle the order a bit, so that the "neighbors" of the US and Japan will not be the countries you see in this list. But what the real order and numbers are we wouldn't know for sure.
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adaydreamJul. 27, 2008 - 11:43PM JST

I love the posters. Iran is such a horrible country full of murders or those who want to kill other, but when they execute 29 people, that are the worst of the worst the same conservatives that blast Iran are blasting them for being so cruel.

Those same conservatives would be supportive of the death penalty, in a different forum.

Make up your minds.

I'm not particularly fond of the death penalty, but when China executes 100s we don't see much, if anything. But when Iran executes, they are bad guys.

Does Iran do anything right? < :-)
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SuperLibJul. 28, 2008 - 12:21AM JST

"Does Iran do anything right? < :-)"

I think most people here would ask if you believe Iran can do anything wrong.
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adaydreamJul. 28, 2008 - 12:24AM JST

SuperLib - Point well taken. < :-)
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bushloverJul. 28, 2008 - 03:00AM JST

I was wondering when we were going to get some good news out of Iran.
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Helter_SkelterJul. 28, 2008 - 05:42AM JST

Iranian rights activists said earlier this month that authorities have sentenced eight women and one man convicted of adultery to death by stoning.

Where are all the JT "human rights activists" to criticize this abhorrent death penalty sentence? Oh yeah, like adaydream, they never criticize and always support the enemies of America.
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adaydreamJul. 28, 2008 - 06:06AM JST

So what do you think about the death penalty and the deaths of these 29. You've already spoken for me. What do you say? Do you agree? Are you supportive of these executions? < :-)
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Helter_SkelterJul. 28, 2008 - 06:32AM JST

Are you supportive of these executions?

Personally, I can't get too worked up about the execution of murderers, rapists, armed robbers, and drug traffickers. I do, however, find the stoning to death of adulterers to be a human rights violation. Now adaydream, only with regards to Iran and without mentioning the US which I realize is near impossible for you, what is your opinion of these executions and stonings by the Iranian government? Again, no mention of any country other than Iran.
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adaydreamJul. 28, 2008 - 06:55AM JST

I've mentioned on many occasion my personal objection to capital punishment. I was supportive of it when I was younger, but there were too many deaths performed, and too much reasonable doubt or just plain facts that either he didn't do it. In a lot of cases it was a frame up job, either by the real perpetrator or the authorities.

I am much more of keeping him in prison the rest of his/her life. Also a lot cheaper than all the new trials. And if he didn't do it and you do find the right bad guy, the original convicted man can be set free.

Hell, Iran is as much capable of framing an innocent man as the United States is, if you want me to be Mr. HumanRightAdvocate. < :-)

So no, I'm not supportive of it. < :-)
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skipthesongJul. 28, 2008 - 09:30AM JST

I can't get too worked up about the execution of murderers, rapists, armed robbers, and drug traffickers. " I'll get worked up for putting some to death for being gay, which they did. I will get worked up with Death by Stoning and I am not so sure I will get worked up over drug traffickers, for me it depends on if they were the big guys, if they are just some club hoppers selling MDA, which I am told Iran has a lot of, then I will get worked up.

I didn't think they would have armed robbers in Iran. Gutsy.
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skipthesongJul. 28, 2008 - 09:31AM JST

I am much more of keeping him in prison the rest of his/her life." You know I hear this a lot from people a lot. What is harsher - life or death?
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Helter_SkelterJul. 28, 2008 - 12:58PM JST

adaydream:

Hell, Iran is as much capable of framing an innocent man as the United States

I knew you couldn't do it. < :-)

skipthesong:

I am not so sure I will get worked up over drug traffickers, for me it depends on if they were the big guys

According to the article, “smuggled thousands of kilograms of various kinds of narcotics” into and out of Iran.
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adaydreamJul. 28, 2008 - 01:18PM JST

Shall I tell you whether I agree with Britain's sentencing? How about Iraq, maybe China?

No matter what answer I give you Helter_Skelter, you'd find fault in it.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0777460.html

You want me to mention other countries beside the US and Iran? Be my guest and visit this site. Ypu can get all the information I got for you.

Have a good day. This isn't worth argueing.

Now is the right time for your sleezy comback. < :-)
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adaydreamJul. 28, 2008 - 01:34PM JST

My last statement was impolite. Sorry. < :-)
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skipthesongJul. 28, 2008 - 02:40PM JST

Helter:

smuggled thousands of kilograms of various kinds of narcotics" thousands - that's chicken feed these days. Nope, they were not at the top of the chain.
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bushloverAug. 01, 2008 - 05:35AM JST

Those so against? Why are you against some that interfere with other countries and here you advocate being against them when it lines up with your ideals. Forcing your way down their throats. I don't care who they want to convict as long as it's not me. The citizens of their country can protest their own death penalties if they are so inclined. They don't need some meddlin white guy (probably from Britian as it's usually that way) to tell them how to think and do.