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Iran: Israeli attack would mean its own demise

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    thepro

    Great. Hope they blow each other up.

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    Sarge

    I don't know about "the destruction of the Jewish state," but any Israeli attack against Iran would definitely mean a certain amount of destruction in Iran.

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    sabiwabi

    Still, he said the risk of Iran developing a nuclear weapon is unacceptable and he reiterated that “the military option” remains on the table.

    Two important questions:

    1. What is the evidence that Iran is pursuing a nuclear WEAPON program? (US intelligence reported they believe Iran is not doing so)

    2. Why is it acceptable for Israel to have nuclear weapons; especially if you consider its distant and recent history of committing war crimes and the Symington amendment (which should make any aid to Israel illegal!!!)?

    Anyway, Israel is coming to an end; lets hope this can be done in a peaceful manner.

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    fleetwood77

    I hope and that Israel very soon will eradicate Iran and as many Iranians as possible . Appeasement doesn't work - destroy them now before it's too late.

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    djuice

    Sabi - what documentation do you have to show that US Intel says that there is no evidence that Iran is developing nukes? They are in a full fledged weapons development program, and any thinking person could deduce that they will develop nukes as soon as they have the capability. Secondly, everybody says that Israel has nukes, but there is no proof of this. Thirdly, Iran has forgotten history when Israel became the only nation in history to win a multi-front war, and they did it in only days. Further, what evidence do have that Israel is coming to an end? Are you privy to the fact that Iran is about to launch a proxy war with Israel through Syria and Lebanon?

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    TumbleDry

    djuice: yeah but in the same time, Iran invited the IAEA to inspect all facilities and processes. All Iran got in the middle finger from the West.

    Ahmadinejad should also stop his KimJongIl threats, backing Hamas, etc... and start to get realist. Israel should change its attitude too.

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    Blockntackle

    I agree with thepro - I hope they wipe each other out.

    Concerning djuice, through its genocide of The Palestinian people Israel has lost its legitimacy.

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    sabiwabi

    The U.S. National Intelligence Estimate, in a “Memorandum to Holders” of November 2007 on Iran’s nuclear program concluded:

    “We judge with high confidence that in fall of 2003 Tehran halted its nuclear weapons program.”

    Earlier this year, public congressional testimony by former Director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair (February 1 & 2) and Defense Intelligence Agency Director Gen. Ronald Burgess with Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Gen. James Cartwright (April 14) did not alter the report's main conclusions.

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    Molenir

    Really sad seeing people hoping for Israels destruction, and then just as an afterthought saying, oh, but hopefully it will die peacefully. Meaning, hopefully not too many of its citizens will be murdered by those that hate them. They seem to think that its ok if most of its citizens being murdered so long as it puts an end to the "evil" that is Israel. I really don't understand this willingness to tolerate genocide.

    There is blame enough on both sides. Calling for the annihilation of one side is a morally bankrupt position.

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    goddog

    Don't mess with the Israelis!

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    cubert

    death to israel

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    jruaustralia

    I don't know about "the destruction of the Jewish state," but any Israeli attack against Iran would definitely mean a certain amount of destruction in Iran.

    mmm... seems like a summer campaign, next year, have been suggested-- and an Israeli attack on Iran is now "50 percent chance" acc. to one media outlet in the US...

    Oh well, only 12 months to go...

    http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2010/0812/Is-Israel-really-likely-to-attack-Iran-next-summer

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    Helter_Skelter

    “Any offensive against Iran means the annihilation of the Zionist entity,”

    This is classic rhetoric from Islamic nations, usually before they get their a@@es kicked. :-D

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    Helter_Skelter

    Are you privy to the fact that Iran is about to launch a proxy war with Israel through Syria and Lebanon?

    Actually, Iran has been fighting a proxy war against Israel though Hamas and Hezbollah for years.

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    mikehuntez

    He said he doubted Israel or the U.S. would dare to stage such an attack because “they know that Iran is ready and has the potential for a decisive and wide-scale response.”

    At the same time, Ahmadinejad sought to ease concerns among neighboring Arab nations that Tehran could target them if armed conflict were to break out with the West over its nuclear work.

    This sounds pretty much like Iran is pounding it's chest with nukes here. If they play this game like Saddam did they may just get what he got. Maybe they should be careful with the rhetoric. So sabi when they do things like this it sure looks like they want the world to think they have nukes. Can you or they see the two faced rhetoric now? And I agree with djuice, everyone suspects Israel has nukes but again there is no proof. What's good for the goose ... Too bad you can't see your own willingness to believe one side but not the other. Your bias is showing ever so brightly.

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    sabiwabi

    Really sad seeing people hoping for Israels destruction, and then just as an afterthought saying, oh, but hopefully it will die peacefully. Meaning, hopefully not too many of its citizens will be murdered by those that hate them.

    No, the end of Israel simply means an end to an illegal occupation. It has nothing to do with the murdering of people or that the Jews will be driven into the sea. The USSR was dismantled, why can't Israel? Israel never should have been created in the first place.

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    sabiwabi

    So sabi when they do things like this it sure looks like they want the world to think they have nukes.

    No they see Israel and its proxy (the US) preparing for another illegal war and they are just telling these terrorists that Iran is not as defenseless as the disarmed Iraqis or the Gazans.

    And I agree with djuice, everyone suspects Israel has nukes but again there is no proof.

    Yeah interesting how they allow Israel to have an official policy of ambiguity; Israel can avoid joining the NPT and refuse inspections, yet can still receive a massive amount of financial and military aid from the US (BTW, the Symington amendment makes all this aid completely illegal). The only US president to ever express concern over Israel's nuclear program was JFK, and we all know how that turned out. BTW, do you have any idea why, if Israel had no nuclear weapons program, they would kidnap Vanunu from Europe and keep him in solitary confinement for about two decades now?

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    WilliB

    The story is half-right. Of course, if its reactors were attacked, Iran would unleash everything it has against Israel. (Hizbollah has now reportedly over 16,000 missiles stocked, ready to reach every part of Israel.)

    On the other hand if Iran´s reactors are not attacked, that does not mean that the Iranian mullahs accept Israel`s right to exist. The will continue to strive to wipe the Jewish state off the map.

    So, damned if you do and damned if you dont.

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    Sarge

    Israel is the size of what, New Jersey? Iran is what, 30 times the size of Israel? Iran should have no problem wiping out little Israel even if they have to go through Iraq and Jordan or Syria, right?

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    Sarge

    "size does not matter"

    Except when your entire country is like the size of New Jersey, and your enemies are plotting to wipe it out.

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    nandakandamanda

    Proxy missiles can now reach Dimona in any retaliatory strike. In that sense, Israel and surrounding areas/countries could well become contaminated.

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    fondofj

    Any war makes money to the hand of arm manufacturing companies. They are very influential to always give the sensation to war loving crazy politicians. We experienced this during Bush regime.

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    ca1ic0cat

    I think it's pretty well accepted that Israel has nukes but it's Iran who is blustering about the destruction of Israel. It seems that Iran's president is playing to a captive audience - e.g. thier own citizens - to try to keep them in check.

    Sabi, by your logic the UN should reinstitute the Roman Empire? Or perhaps the Ottoman Turks? There have been so many countries that have laid claim to the area that there is no way to sort it out. It would be better if everybody could share a bit rather than re-hashing centuries old grudges.

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    Seamus78

    They are as bad as each other, enough said

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    WilliB

    Seamus:

    " They are as bad as each other, enough said "

    Are they really? In Iran, they are stoning people to death for crimes like homosexuality or adultry. Iran's mullahs are deyning the holocaust and are wowing to wipe the "dirty bacteria" Israel off the map (and of course the great Satan USA if they could). Iran is using murderous vigilantes to deal with internal opposition. Torture and rape are a staple in Iranian prisons.

    Where do see a counterpart in Israel?

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    Helter_Skelter

    WillB: So, damned if you do and damned if you dont.

    The difference in consequences between Israel being attacked with conventional vs. nuclear weapons is huge. Israel has already been attacked by thousands of conventional missiles and survived. A single nuke would be devastating, which is exactly why sabi is so intent of Iran getting them. The option is clearly to take out Iran's nuclear facilities. Besides, Muslim countries must never be allowed to obtain nukes.

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    kyushujoe

    Muslim countries must never be allowed to obtain nukes.

    Tell that to the Pakistanis.

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    Helter_Skelter

    Tell that to the Pakistanis.

    Yeah, big mistake letting Pakistan obtain nukes. There's currently a threat of a government takeover by radical Mulsims, who would then have access to these nukes.

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