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Iran threatens U.S. navy

World Jan. 04, 2012 - 06:55AM JST ( 13 )

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some14someJan. 04, 2012 - 07:34AM JST

Common person is puzzled...US threatens Iran, Iran threatens US...is there any role for UN to pacify public concerns?
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ExportExpertJan. 04, 2012 - 10:18AM JST

Iran fired its 3 working missiles in the 10 day exercise, nothing more to worry about now untill it can build 3 more missiles.
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hworta269Jan. 04, 2012 - 11:36AM JST

Yeah Iran, good luck on that one. Iran threatens their neighbors on a regular basis and arms subversive groups in countries it doesnt like the government's of.
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Elbuda MexicanoJan. 04, 2012 - 12:11PM JST

Iran?? Threatening the USA?? Sure!! More jingoism from the CIA!!
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noriyosan73Jan. 04, 2012 - 12:44PM JST

The Iranian navy looks like the boats in a 10 year old's bathtub. This story needs to be put at the bottom of JT pages. What is Iran's purpose in such rhetoric? Attention seeking because sanctions are working. Americans love this kind of confrontation. If Iran wants to lose its entire navy, then as another US president once said, "Bring it on." Iran just wants headlines the same as NK. Give it to them, but on the last page. Japan does not need to worry about its oil purchases from Iran. The OPEC said it would make up the difference.
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YuriOtaniJan. 04, 2012 - 12:51PM JST

It should be a short fight, the Iranian navy will end up on the bottom. If I recall right it is based on Russian navy equipment. This is a prelude to any attack of China upon the USA or Japan.
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Jared NormanJan. 04, 2012 - 01:45PM JST

Just attack iran now, its going to happen. Ehats in between afganistan and iraq?
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ElvensilvanJan. 04, 2012 - 03:11PM JST

@some14some

Well, the sanctions imposed on Iran are issued with the UN's seal on the envelope, in addition to already existing UN sanctions issued earlier.

@noriyosan73

The OPEC said it would make up the difference.

This is hopeful thinking. Considering that if and when Iran does engage in a war, more specifically in the Strait of Hormuz, many oil-producing countries would be unable to ship out oil, including Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, a part of eastern Saudi Arabia and others.

Also, with the previous warnings from Iran, that they will attack American base locations around the Middle East, which means that Iran intends to attack different fronts at once, which can cripple business in a very wide area.
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paulinusaJan. 04, 2012 - 03:17PM JST

There are dual purposes to Iran's threats. One reason is for domestic consumption and the other is to raise oil prices(which is happening now) without ever going to war. They know their navy would be quickly overmatched by US forces.
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hworta269Jan. 04, 2012 - 03:45PM JST

@paulinusa I think you are right on the money there!
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FadamorJan. 05, 2012 - 12:32AM JST

The headline is false. Iran is not a threat to the U.S. Navy. That said, you'll note Iran specified that the carriers can't enter the Gulf.. It was worded that way so they could claim success when the carriers don't enter the Gulf. (They don't have to, they can do what they need to from outside the Straits of Hormuz). I was in the navy back in 1979 when Iran was holding the U.S. Embassy personnel hostage. The U.S. sent a carrier force to Iran and my ship was one of the escorts in the carrier force. We NEVER entered the Straits of Hormuz and instead just steamed in a big circle outside of the Straits. The carrier (The U.S.S. Independence) was fine where it was. It's planes could reach any conceivable target in Iran from there. There was no need to restrict its maneuverability by entering the narrow Straits.

So Iran's "demand" is moot, and they know it.
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FadamorJan. 05, 2012 - 12:45AM JST

The Iranian navy looks like the boats in a 10 year old's bathtub.

That's what the Persian Gulf often looks like - especially in the summer. It's more like a calm lake than an extension of the Indian Ocean. On my second deployment to the region (this time after the hostages had been returned), our job was to act as a "radar picket" for Saudi Arabia and we traveled to a spot in the Gulf and steamed in a 2 mile x 2 mile square - acting as a floating radar station. More often than not, the guys not on duty were fishing off the fantail. Not many waves out there.
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gelendestrasseJan. 05, 2012 - 02:55AM JST

I think PaulinUSA is right but the rhetoric is dangerous. If Iran did launch anti-ship missiles and got lucky the losses would be real and the response would be harsh. In an election year Obama can't be seen as weak. So this has two possible (well three) outcomes. The Iranians back down when a carrier group sails in. The Iranians launch an attack and it's swatted down without US casualties, so little or no response is needed. The Iranians attack and get "lucky" and cause casualities. In which case the US starts taking out the Iranian capabilities to strike again. That would get ugly.

I don't see it as a good situation. The Iranians have painted themselves into a corner and Obama has limited political options. This is a no-win situation.