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Iraqi accused in deaths of 5 U.S. soldiers freed

World Jun. 10, 2009 - 05:59AM JST ( 24 )

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dragonczarJun. 10, 2009 - 08:57AM JST

“Somebody needs to answer for it”

Bush,Cheney,Rumsfled were longer holding power!
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dragonczarJun. 10, 2009 - 08:59AM JST

The U.S. military declined comment on the release and referred questions to the Iraqi government, which described the move as part of “reconciliation efforts.”

It's time to pack up and go home! Do not enduring freedom for others who has nothing business to do with you! It was a naive belief!
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dragonczarJun. 10, 2009 - 09:31AM JST

Iraq was a fiasco for present america, at least nixon bombed the North viets to behaves until his resign and saving america's face for somekind of way! Bush,Obama just know dealing with the Iranians and sold out the soldiers and their families. What a shame! Who is going to fight for america anymore!
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TosakenJun. 10, 2009 - 09:41AM JST

Who ever agreed the release of al-Khazali needed to stop & think what went through the minds of those four soldiers during the short time they were kidnapped before being murdered. It is hard to imagine the fear that they would have felt. Religion, politics, nationality all have nothing to do with it. This man al-Khazali has no right to be alive never mind free.

All western troops need to be pulled out of Iraq & the country should be allowed to go it’s own way. Let them kill each other which seems to be what they are happiest doing, maybe it is a part of their “culture” & who are we to judge an other mans culture?
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MolenirJun. 10, 2009 - 09:55AM JST

I'd personally like to thank Obama for his complete and utter betrayal of American Soldiers. I don't know of any other way to describe what happened here.
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nandakandamandaJun. 10, 2009 - 09:58AM JST

With any luck they have implanted him with microchips and if the other side does not follow through with their promises he gets taken out big time.
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timorborderJun. 10, 2009 - 10:22AM JST

Don't like the sound of this. If this guy was actually involved in these activities, then he should be detained until such time as he has his day in court and treated accordingly after judgement.

I also don't agree with the idea of linking this chap with reaching out to certain groups. What is the message here, "all is forgiven?" While I understand that groups that were previously alienated have to be brought into the fold, surely there are other ways of doing this than releasing accused murderers from jail?
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dragonczarJun. 10, 2009 - 10:37AM JST

An initial statement by the U.S. military on the day of the raid said five soldiers were killed while “repelling” the attack on the compound in Karbala. But after an Associated Press report, the military reversed itself and confirmed that four of the guards had been abducted before being slain in a neighboring province.

So that was a liar? The Pentagon lied! Bush,Rumsfled were big liars! Operation iraqi freedom was a complete hoax!?
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FarmboyJun. 10, 2009 - 12:13PM JST

There are a lot of questions here. Is the guy accused, or has the matter been decided in a court? If there was no trial, why not? If he's guilty, he should be locked up, and if not, he should be let go, hostages or no hostages. I do hope the justification wasn't that “Somebody needs to answer for it.”

If the guy is guilty, then trading for hostages seems to send the wrong message. This is a difficult situation, but encouraging hostage takers just creates more of the same. The idea that "once all the detainees, including Laith’s brother Qais, are free, the League would hand over all its heavy weapons, release all the remaining Iraqi captives it’s holding and transform into a political movement" seems really amazingly trusting. Why should one have faith in the honesty of these people, I wonder? What will happen if they are not as honorable as hoped?
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smithinjapanJun. 10, 2009 - 12:53PM JST

Molenir: "I'd personally like to thank Obama for his complete and utter betrayal of American Soldiers. I don't know of any other way to describe what happened here."

Fortunately, while most of us are skeptical about what happened here, we CAN say that none of the facts are known except that five soldiers were killed. The reason you don't know of any other way to describe what happened is simply because you are too short-sighted and the linking of this man to the murders has led you to judge him before he's actually been tried. Or has he been tried? The point is we don't know. Timorborder said it best when he asked if the man's been tried, and if so and was found guilty, he should not be released simply as a trade-off. If not, then he should be released regardless.

I have no doubt with the rage that this whole incident is stirring, more facts will come to light. If proof that he did what they've linked him to comes up, and they knew and let him go, then I think your outrage is justified. Until then, blaming the president of the US for betraying US soldiers is just silly.
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WilliBJun. 10, 2009 - 02:03PM JST

It is Obamas phantasyland policy in action. Stand by for more bizarro news.
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goodDonkeyJun. 10, 2009 - 07:05PM JST

Molenir said:

I'd personally like to thank Obama for his complete and utter betrayal of American Soldiers

Ah yes, where is that moderate condemnation when you need it?
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MadvertsJun. 10, 2009 - 07:31PM JST

goodD,

You're dealing with individuals suffering from Obama Derrangement Syndrome. JT should be charging them since it's basicaly turned the boards in to a radical left/right support group.

Expect radicalism, foam and froth. There is no moderate. They seem almost as bad as the shrieky left with dubya, only Mr Obama's only been in office six months, so expect things to get worse...

...and obviously, to hell with the Iraqi authorities and the Brits also involved in this individuals release. These nutters have their extremist, partisan agenda to pursue and any oppertunity to shriek about Obama is to be taken immediately with total disregard for Reality or facts....
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MolenirJun. 11, 2009 - 03:32AM JST

Wow Mad, way to take what I said, and blow it completely out of context. Is like I said, its an inch, and you suddenly jump a mile. Lets consider the facts in the case shall we?

The US government knows, or has strong evidence to believe that the man was involved in the death of 5 US soldiers. He was arrested, and being held for this. The US knows that Iraq wants to use him as a bargaining chip. And hands him over to the Iraqis, who promptly release him, in a bid to convince other groups, also involved in the murder of soldiers, to put down their weapons.

Did I summarize the story well enough? Point I made before is simply thus, handing him over, knowing nothing would be done to the man who was involved in the murder of 5 soldiers, is betraying those men, and the sacrifices they made. Its a betrayal of all the other men and women who have died for their country as well. You don't have to agree, but that is how I feel about the subject. And if you want to call that radicalism, or refer to me as 'nutters' then thats fine, it doesn't change how I feel about the subject, or how most Americans would feel if they knew the facts in the case.
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MolenirJun. 11, 2009 - 03:33AM JST

Oh, and for the record, had this same call been made by Bush, I would feel the same way about it as I do, having had it made by Obama.
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JoeBigsJun. 11, 2009 - 06:30AM JST

Why were we there in the first place? WE should have left Saddam in charge of that hornets nest. Oh yeah we went in there to give them freedom.LOL

What a joke!

Now Iran has an ally and we can not do a darn thing about it, stupid neo-cons!
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SuperLibJun. 11, 2009 - 07:58AM JST

I can't say I know everything about the case, but I don't like the way it smells so far...
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ANOTSUSAGAMIJun. 11, 2009 - 08:19AM JST

"[T]he U.S. handed over al-Khazali to the Iraqi government and was not involved in his final release." That tells me almost all I need to know. The U.S. may have known that Iraq was going to release him in exchange for the hostages, but there was nothing they could do legally. True, the crime he is accused of killed U.S. troops, but it happened on Iraqi soil. Law of sovereignty allows them to prosecute crimes that happen on thier soil as violations of thier commonwealth. Obama is hardly responsible when a foreign power exercises it's right to prosecute crimes on thier soil. Especially since he wasn't involved in the placement of said government. It's sad that Iraq gave him away, but international law states that it's thier decision to make, NOT Obama's.