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Iraqi churches cancel Christmas festivities after attacks

World Dec. 23, 2010 - 06:39AM JST ( 12 )

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SolidariTeaDec. 23, 2010 - 09:26AM JST

“Nobody can ignore the threats of al-Qaida against Iraqi Christians,” said Chaldean Archbishop Louis Sako in Kirkuk. “We cannot find a single source of joy that makes us celebrate. The situation of the Christians is bleak.”

Islam is the most intolerant creed on earth. How can anyone protest, with threats of violence, a holiday like Christmas? I have been a student of the world's religions for decades, and am still baffled by these ppl.
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mikehuntezDec. 23, 2010 - 11:23AM JST

I have been a student of the world's religions for decades, and am still baffled by these ppl.

Well welcome to JT SolidariTea. Here you'll find the islamists apologists blaming everyone except the ones threatening the violence. These people baffle me as well. The islamists and the apologists.
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LoveUSADec. 23, 2010 - 11:39AM JST

yet, american war in Iraq was announced a success...
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nandakandamandaDec. 23, 2010 - 01:52PM JST

The Sunnis and Shiites should also immediately cancel all festivities of any sort, out of respect and solidarity.

Oh, but I expect the usual people here will want to say that these al-Qaida threats are from the CIA and Mossad.
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WilliBDec. 23, 2010 - 02:39PM JST

Solidaritea:

" I have been a student of the world's religions for decades, and am still baffled by these ppl. "

Apparently in your studies you missed the religion which specifically lambasts Christians and Jews in its holy book and prescribes a second-class dhimmi status to them. If you read up on it, your bafflement will end.
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jruaustraliaDec. 23, 2010 - 06:52PM JST

To all Iraqi Christians terror-struck this Christmas season my prayers (as with the rest of the world) will be with you all!
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TeachmeteachyouDec. 24, 2010 - 12:11AM JST

How evil could they be, to specifically target Christmas? I'll be praying for those forced by circumstance to be surrounded by such darkness, that they be safe and free to be happy again.
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nandakandamandaDec. 24, 2010 - 12:15AM JST

The others probably just want their houses and property...
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TeachmeteachyouDec. 24, 2010 - 11:17AM JST

This really is a heart-rending article, so I decided to say more about it...

It's clear to me that, however unfairly, the association of the Christians with the 'regime change' operation, along with others who actually helped, such as translators, is a large part of the reason they are being singled out like this. Whilst I don't hold with Islam being a tolerant religion, based upon it's history of being quite different, in other times and places such discrimination has also happened because of the assumed 'guilt of association', which is a toxic thing to begin with. It's a horrible shock to see, but it is something that humans have been capable of for a long time. We need reasonable solutions to make sure people are safe.

Bush and Co. should never have invaded unless they were sure they could produce a stable, secular government in a short time. Still, such a government, made by Iraqis for Iraqis is the only hope that this sort of thing, which doesn't tend to happen so much in stable countries, becomes a thing of the past.

Radical groups flourish in anarchy and removing not just Saddam Hussein, but also the Baath party administrators, police and army, pretty much ensured this anarchistic situation, which Iraq is still climbing out of. He was actually putting the brakes on Islamic radicalism, as it was a threat to him too.

It seems to me that evil loves chaos, as it can fulfill it's darkest fantasies in such a time, with no-one able or even willing to stop them. Good requires a certain amount of order, as it is a constructive force. This should be a lesson to the world about attempts to make things better. They should be careful to see that they create what they really want and ensure the safety of the innocent. It seems like radical Islam is so barbaric, it requires strong governments to control. The unsavoury things such governments do may just be the lesser of two evils compared with setting it free.

Freedom, in short, is closely related to safety. If we can't guarantee this to the Iraqi Christians in their own land, then they should be granted safe asylum, as a priority, partly because it seems to me almost no-where in the middle East is truly safe for anyone not a Muslim. We can't just wash our hands of this and hope things get better there. Obama and co has inherited these problems just as much as he inherited the wars that exacerbated them- ironically, as part of their intention was (publicly at least), to create stable, viable, friendly states out of tyranny. Whether this 'lead to gold' alchemy can work is a philosophical point to those living under the effects of it.

Well, that's my two cents on the situation, anyway. Right now north Korea is hogging the headlines, but not only will these issues not go away, we should also urgently study them, to see what lessons can be learnt if we do take part in other regime changes, such as the North Korean problem. In such a case, we shouldn't just fire everyone working for Li'l Kim, as they might actually be decent individuals just doing a job, essential for rebuilding the country. We should be realistic and avoid radical actions. That way, more reasonable people are likely to come to the fore in the aftermath. Your means define your ends, not the other way around.
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FruitsBasketFanDec. 24, 2010 - 05:28PM JST

It said Al-Qaida was responsible for this.....not the entire Muslim community.
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nandakandamandaDec. 24, 2010 - 09:15PM JST

The entire Muslim community should come together and protect whoever is a target any time.
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MadvertsDec. 25, 2010 - 12:20AM JST

"The entire Muslim community should come together and protect whoever is a target any time."

The muslims will do nothing. Neither will the scum that ordered the opening of the bowels of hell.

Mission Accomplished.