"And I'm guessing if people were throwing shoes at you, you'd be 100% against it"
If I'd ordered the aggressive act of bombing the city of Baghdad, a place I remind you once again that was home to 5 million innocent people, and got it this wrong 5 years down the line, I think I'd be getting off lightly with shoes and insults being hurled at me.
Defending the indefendible once again bites the dust....
Like I said.....you aren't against assault as long as it's against the right people. Just like torture. Is it OK if some Iraqis who support Saddam's removal beat up that reporter? Is it OK if someone throws something at Obama when he's president and goes to Pakistan after he continues to order cross border bombings like he said he would?
PM Maliki needs to apply full weight of Iraq law to this criminal if he wants to set a good example of law and order to his country. If he fails to do this, I will not be surprised when next time a bag of dog poo exploded on his face or even worse ..a grenade.
I really understand the guy's anger and morally, I think he was completely justified in what he did.
However, at the end of the day - If you can't do the time; don't do the crime.
The guy is a journalist. The pen is mightier than the shoe. He should have taken his justified anger out on the putz by exposing his numerous mistruths about Iraq; not by committing assault.
On the other hand, as a non-Iraqi, it's easy for me to say he should keep his emotions in check. Comparatively, I've suffered far less due to bush's idiocy. Had I lost a child or spouse because of him, I cannot say that I would be capable of keeping my emotions in check either.
Is this the idiocity that has prevented any terrorist attacks on U.S soil, icluding Kentucky, since September 11, 2001?
Checking...
Yeah, it is!
Always thinking of yourself, eh Sarge? Its not about what happened to others, its all about you and yours. That ends justifies any means.
Well you STILL need to check your friggen sources, and it seems your only source is the old and broken down wetware between your ears. I cannot believe anyone in the year of 2008 is STILL drawing a connection between 9/11 and Iraq.
The idea that Iraqis should STILL be grateful to Bush is like you have a guy who heroically saved your daughter from being raped by another guy. Oh, yes, you are thankful, even if it is readily apparent the "hero" did it for his own selfish reasons.
But then the next day he participates in gang raping your daughter even though he is not the worst of the offenders. Are you still thankful? Hell no. He does not even go back to neutral status. Throwing your shoes at him is about the least you would want to do.
Well, this guy isn't a shoe bomber...maybe he's a shoe lobber. (If so, could he be held for lobbery?)
In any case, throwing anything at another country's leader is and should be illegal in every country, no matter how annoyed you are at a particular leader. Otherwise all leaders everywhere will need to speak from behind garbage screens. It's sort of a mark of civilization that you show respect to the leaders of other countries, even those you disagree with.
Still, as Bush said,(approximately) "He wanted to get on TV, and he did." Our lobber isn't a terrorist. It's a misdemeanor, or its equivalent, and he should be punished for that, not for anything greater than that. I would scratch him off the invited guest list for next time, I think.
But if he's pardoned, then everyone will start throwing shoes ... wait - we're in a deep recession. We can't afford to lose even one shoe. Okay, pardon away. Now, is there any way we can get him on the U.S. talk show circuit?
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Madverts at 01:33 AM JST - 20th December
"And I'm guessing if people were throwing shoes at you, you'd be 100% against it"
If I'd ordered the aggressive act of bombing the city of Baghdad, a place I remind you once again that was home to 5 million innocent people, and got it this wrong 5 years down the line, I think I'd be getting off lightly with shoes and insults being hurled at me.
Defending the indefendible once again bites the dust....
SuperLib at 02:19 AM JST - 20th December
Like I said.....you aren't against assault as long as it's against the right people. Just like torture. Is it OK if some Iraqis who support Saddam's removal beat up that reporter? Is it OK if someone throws something at Obama when he's president and goes to Pakistan after he continues to order cross border bombings like he said he would?
tclh at 05:44 AM JST - 20th December
PM Maliki needs to apply full weight of Iraq law to this criminal if he wants to set a good example of law and order to his country. If he fails to do this, I will not be surprised when next time a bag of dog poo exploded on his face or even worse ..a grenade.
Taka313 at 05:45 AM JST - 20th December
I really understand the guy's anger and morally, I think he was completely justified in what he did.
However, at the end of the day - If you can't do the time; don't do the crime.
The guy is a journalist. The pen is mightier than the shoe. He should have taken his justified anger out on the putz by exposing his numerous mistruths about Iraq; not by committing assault.
On the other hand, as a non-Iraqi, it's easy for me to say he should keep his emotions in check. Comparatively, I've suffered far less due to bush's idiocy. Had I lost a child or spouse because of him, I cannot say that I would be capable of keeping my emotions in check either.
Taka
likeitis at 02:14 PM JST - 20th December
That truism is certainly not lost on Bush and pals.
To what end. George Bush's pen has already been used to sign his own pardon. To undo that will take the combined power of both the pen AND the shoe.
Sarge at 09:47 PM JST - 20th December
"he was completely justified in what he did"
That must be why the Iraqi security guards arrested and interrogated him.
"I've suffered far less due to bush's idiocy"
Is this the idiocity that has prevented any terrorist attacks on U.S soil, icluding Kentucky, since September 11, 2001?
Checking...
Yeah, it is!
likeitis at 10:02 PM JST - 20th December
Always thinking of yourself, eh Sarge? Its not about what happened to others, its all about you and yours. That ends justifies any means.
Well you STILL need to check your friggen sources, and it seems your only source is the old and broken down wetware between your ears. I cannot believe anyone in the year of 2008 is STILL drawing a connection between 9/11 and Iraq.
likeitis at 10:35 PM JST - 20th December
The idea that Iraqis should STILL be grateful to Bush is like you have a guy who heroically saved your daughter from being raped by another guy. Oh, yes, you are thankful, even if it is readily apparent the "hero" did it for his own selfish reasons.
But then the next day he participates in gang raping your daughter even though he is not the worst of the offenders. Are you still thankful? Hell no. He does not even go back to neutral status. Throwing your shoes at him is about the least you would want to do.
Madverts at 12:39 AM JST - 21st December
"Is this the idiocity that has prevented any terrorist attacks on U.S soil"
This statement has been proven un-true more than once, despite it being splurged out on lany an occasion by the whitehouse propoganda slime machine.
kenjinakasone at 01:50 PM JST - 21st December
unfortunately for the Iraqis the U.S. will be there for at least a century. by that time, quite possibly Babylon may have well moved to D.C.
saborichan at 01:01 PM JST - 22nd December
" I am auspicious" ? suspicious, perhaps?
Farmboy at 02:08 PM JST - 22nd December
Well, this guy isn't a shoe bomber...maybe he's a shoe lobber. (If so, could he be held for lobbery?)
In any case, throwing anything at another country's leader is and should be illegal in every country, no matter how annoyed you are at a particular leader. Otherwise all leaders everywhere will need to speak from behind garbage screens. It's sort of a mark of civilization that you show respect to the leaders of other countries, even those you disagree with.
Still, as Bush said,(approximately) "He wanted to get on TV, and he did." Our lobber isn't a terrorist. It's a misdemeanor, or its equivalent, and he should be punished for that, not for anything greater than that. I would scratch him off the invited guest list for next time, I think.
Philosophy187 at 08:35 PM JST - 22nd December
Iraqi journalist who threw shoes at Bush asks for pardon: Never apologize! If you do it - Do it to the all the way or talk about it here online.
LOL
SiouxGirl at 12:52 PM JST - 23rd December
But if he's pardoned, then everyone will start throwing shoes ... wait - we're in a deep recession. We can't afford to lose even one shoe. Okay, pardon away. Now, is there any way we can get him on the U.S. talk show circuit?
adamantine at 01:02 PM JST - 23rd December
Journalist Muntadhar al-Zeidi is a Sadrist and is reportedly very "fond" of Iran.
Iraq has its own laws, written by democratically elected leaders. They will decide this buffoon's fate.