Iraqi judge says shoe-throwing reporter was beaten

Saturday 20th December, 06:42 AM JST

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sailwind at 12:14 PM JST - 21st December

And not even see a doctor? Gee, I am glad we have had them under control for six years. It really takes time to seal the cracks, eh?

You got proof of this? And don't forget about the medical attention bit.

I guess you can rest easy now, likeitis your hero is in good health and wasn't tortured. I know your dissapointed

Durgham said that the family had been able to talk to Muntazer on the telephone and that he had allayed their previous fears about his treatment.

"He is in good health and does not have a broken arm. He just has some blows to his face," he said.

Durgham had said on Monday that his brother had sustained a broken arm and ribs after being hit by Iraqi security forces.

Muntazer's investigating judge Dhiya al-Kenani said on Thursday that the 29-year-old television reporter was in good health and being well treated.

"He was wounded during his arrest and not afterwards. He has not been beaten during his interrogation," the judge said, adding that, "a doctor is examining him everyday and he has medicine at his disposal."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iDgPVb5zNrzk_oPMMTPeBxzqbLfw
SuperLib at 07:45 PM JST - 21st December

He was assaulted. Why the quotation marks?
SuperLib at 07:52 PM JST - 21st December

sailwind: Muntazer's investigating judge Dhiya al-Kenani said on Thursday that the 29-year-old television reporter was in good health and being well treated.

Some might lose the chance to express outrage about the allegations from this point on, but you can't really erase past outrage. In fact, some might even express outrage at unconfirmed reports quickly so they don't miss the opportunity to do so if the allegations are proven to be untrue. By this point in time their outrage will have subsided anyway, so asking if the allegations are true or not becomes irrelevant. The result is the same either way, so why not take the chance to attack the other side while you have it?
Philosophy187 at 08:41 PM JST - 22nd December

Iraqi judge says shoe-throwing reporter was beaten: Beaten reporter or almost hit by shoe murderer - which is worse?

Oh Shoe throwers are far worse to a person who causes millions to die. Yes..... All in relation to Iraqi judge says shoe-throwing reporter was beaten.
USARonin at 09:02 PM JST - 22nd December

Mr. 187, what "millions"?

If you read the article you'd see the judge was referrin' to the "scuffle" that followed, and that Mr. Shoeless was "wrestled to the ground".

Ironically, Mr. 187, this coward chose to threw his shoes at the one guy who helped give him the power to do it... and still be in the land of the livin' to talk about it later.

If this coward had thrown his shoes at the head of state for Egypt, Syria, Jordan and da like we'd be talkin' about a wet red spot on the ground rather than someone offering profuse apologies for his cowardly and childish behavior.

I'm not losin' any sleep over how hard this guy was taken down. You?
Philosophy187 at 09:30 PM JST - 22nd December

USARonin, I am referring to why he threw the shoe. Oh and yea if it is in the article it must be "True". Hint "Illegal War".
USARonin at 09:32 PM JST - 22nd December

Mr. 187, the war isn't "illegal".

Who fills your head with this stuff?

Are they the same folks from where you get your "millions" statement.

I see.
USARonin at 09:42 PM JST - 22nd December

It's a statement of fact: The war is not "illegal".

Really, where do you get your stuff?
gaijintraveller at 09:29 AM JST - 23rd December

USARonin, the man is not a coward. It takes a brave man to hurl a shoe, which is unlikely to be fatal, at a man surrounded by armed heavies. What was he supposed to do to make his point? Challenge Bush to fisticuffs?

No doubt you consider people who drop bombs on civilians from planes or get others to do it for them are brave.

Regarding legality, I suppose nothing is illegal to a President who considers himself and his administration above the law and not restricted by international treaties such as the Geneva convention.
VoXman at 09:33 AM JST - 26th December

gaijintraveller: a Brave man you say? Please, he knew no matter what he'd be seen as a hero to the Islamic world. HE figured he'd do a little time and come out as a living hero to his people. Please! A hero makes self-less acts of courage. What he should have done is continue to write the truth about Bush's policies.

"No doubt you consider people who drop bombs on civilians from planes or get others to do it for them are brave"

I say: no doubt you consider people who hijack commercial planes and crash them into buildings to kill innocent people are brave. or so called freedom fighters who use their own people, women and children, as human shields as brave.

"Regarding legality, I suppose nothing is illegal to a President who considers himself and his administration above the law and not restricted by international treaties such as the Geneva convention.

I'd say yes, when in fact you can't even apply the geneva convention to anything the Taliban, AL Queda or any insurgnet has ever done. Not one tenent of the Genva convention was ever followed by those people, so who could anyone apply it to them? Are they children? excused for their behavior, not held accountable?
Hotbox08 at 10:47 AM JST - 26th December

To VoXman, and all posters like him, stay on topic. The point I do agree with is that this shoe-thrower, Muntadhar, has been arrested and is rightfully being kept in a prison. What I don't agree with, is that torture is an acceptable form of treatment. This article clearly states that a confirmed judge has stated that enough evidence shows that an investigation should be done as to why he has sustained multiple bruises and torture. I for one, do not accept such actions, and I would hope that others would not too. Guilty of throwing shoes he is, but he does not deserve to be treated like a dog.
likeitis at 12:42 PM JST - 26th December

HE figured he'd do a little time and come out as a living hero to his people.

A big assumption on your part.

A hero makes self-less acts of courage.

I guess that the instant a hero benefits from his brave act he ceases to be a hero?

Its a wonder the whole freaking world does not rise up and attack unpopular leaders with all those wonderful benefits to doing so.

What he should have done is continue to write the truth about Bush's policies.

That has been going on for 8 years. What changes? Anybody could just sit on their keister and wait for Bush to finish his term. No need to even write.

Not one tenent of the Genva convention was ever followed by those people, so who could anyone apply it to them?

If you on their level then speak for yourself.

no doubt you consider people who hijack commercial planes and crash them into buildings to kill innocent people are brave.

A mix of brave and crazy I would say. And lets not forget misguided. Killing one's self in such a way is not an act of cowardice. Doing it by remote control would be.

And it takes nothing away from the fact that dropping bombs from planes completely unopposed is NOT bravery. Doolittle Raid=extreme bravery Tokyo fireboming=cowardly following orders

or so called freedom fighters who use their own people, women and children, as human shields as brave.

Where do you get this human shield business? Those people are in their own countries, living in their own towns with their own families. So when you bomb them, yeah, their women and children are right there. They fight in the streets, or else they just get slaughtered.

I would bet A LOT OF MONEY that if we chose a piece of ground and it was 100 of our guys vs 100 of theirs, same weapons same everything and their goals could be achieved by winning, they would gladly fight that battle. As it is they are up against predator drones, stealth bombers, thermal imaging, satellite technology, unlimited ammo, tanks, etc. etc. and since ours have those advantages, what do you expect them to do to level the playing field somewhat? They are not running out in the desert drawing lines in the sand, that is for sure.

I don't like the half of what they do either, but if the situation were reversed you would either do similar things or just give up, and the latter would be the least likely to be called brave.
Philosophy187 at 07:30 PM JST - 26th December

Hear Say.
Nessie at 11:04 PM JST - 26th December

I hear he was beaten to within a half-size of his life.
Sarge at 11:40 PM JST - 26th December

I hear he's made the maker of his shoes rich.