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Irish abuse report blasts Catholic Church

World May. 21, 2009 - 05:52AM JST ( 16 )

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Den DenMay. 21, 2009 - 07:41AM JST

This is very serious. 1. All catholic churches should be closed indefinitely. 2. A full police investigation should be started. 3. All pedophiles should be arrested and tried, and if guilty, imprisoned or sent to psychiatric facilities. 4. Extensive councilling and compensation for all victims. 5. All cases of violence should be perused and prosecuted.
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skipthesongMay. 21, 2009 - 10:18AM JST

This is more of the reason why religions should be banned. If you want to go to church, you can do so on the internet.

Oh, we are only touching on the Roman Catholic Church, I wonder why several other cases involving a non-Christian religion have not been put up on JT!?
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graftonMay. 21, 2009 - 11:02AM JST

But I thought everybody knew that the Devil had to be beaten out of a child.
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AltriaMay. 21, 2009 - 11:07AM JST

They've got to be taking the mick.
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likeitisMay. 21, 2009 - 01:36PM JST

Den Den: 3. All pedophiles should be arrested and tried, and if guilty, imprisoned or sent to psychiatric facilities.

What the...? No dude, all people who abused their power and abused their charges should be arrested and tried. This is not about what people are, as in being a pedophile. This is about what they did, as in abusing. Plus, you are leaving out a lot of nuns and others who beat their charges, but did nothing sexual.
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dennis0bauerMay. 21, 2009 - 03:42PM JST

Amen to that
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skipthesongMay. 21, 2009 - 05:28PM JST

No, this is about those in leadership positions of religions who sexual abuse kids. I am willing to be most pedos know they can get away with it be being a priest and thus become one themselves, just for that purpose.
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MadvertsMay. 21, 2009 - 05:33PM JST

It's not just Ireland. It's a damned international paedophile ring, with protection and cover-ups at the highest levels.
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likeitisMay. 21, 2009 - 07:42PM JST

skipthesong: I am willing to be most pedos know they can get away with it be being a priest and thus become one themselves, just for that purpose.

I would not make that bet skip. No doubt some do, but most? No. You put a male in a room full of people and most will sort out a few sexually attractive ones. In the absence of any (like adult females for example) and given enough exposure (time) and desperation, some of the previously uninteresting ones get interesting, even if they are male. And nobody has pent up sexual frustration like a Catholic priest! These guys got away with it often because they made a good first impression with everybody, which was easy to do since, at that time, even THEY themselves had no such ideas.

No, this is about those in leadership positions of religions who sexual abuse kids.

I stand corrected. Release the nuns then. Here is your finger smacking ruler back Sister Mary. And your rattan bottom smacking cane back Mother Superior. Oh, its not your fault about Winter Steele.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvUJ54Awxec&NR=1
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jeancolmarMay. 21, 2009 - 08:09PM JST

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The Catholic Church breeds pervs by making their priests and nuns take vows of celibacy. That the Church is rampant with pervs has been showed to be true over and over again.

I'll be that this latest scandal is far from the end.
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cleoMay. 21, 2009 - 08:22PM JST

The Catholic Church breeds pervs by making their priests and nuns take vows of celibacy.

The priests and nuns know all about the vows well before they take them. They aren't forced into it. If they want to stay religious but not celibate, they could go Protestant or some other cult, they're all basically the same anyway.
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NeilWarnockMay. 21, 2009 - 08:26PM JST

I don'T know anyone with a good view of the catholic church. It has been known for decades that beatings and sexual abuse were going on in Ireland, but it was swept under vthe carpet.

It still is, even by the government who do not prosecute those alledgedly involved, a disgusting religion.
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jeancolmarMay. 21, 2009 - 09:43PM JST

Cleo, some vows are harder to keep than others. Furthermore, a lot of people as children are pressured into becoming priests and nuns. In Ireland, becoming a priest or a nun was one quick way to escape poverty and get a free education. On top of that, simply dropping out of the priesthood or nunhood is not that easy, either economically or emotionally. It is not easy to go to the protestants after being a Catholic all your life. And another thing: the vow of celibacy would tend to attract people with sexual problems. It is obvious that among men, a lot are homosexuals who were afraid to come out of the closet and chose to hide within the Catholic Church.

Whatever the case may be, the fact that the abuse of Irish children by priests and nuns was widespread is beyond dispute. The Irish government took a decade to investigate it.

There is something endemically sick within the Catholic Church. It beyond dispute.
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likeitisMay. 21, 2009 - 11:06PM JST

cleo: The priests and nuns know all about the vows well before they take them. They aren't forced into it.

No, but their subconcious mind is, and that is where they get failed. They have bought into a whole lot of crap when they take their vows. And none of it meshes with the situations they find themselves in. Some people are rational enough to finally see the disparity enough to get out. Most are not or they would not have taken those vows in the first place.

I have to agree with jeancolmar; They do make their own pervs. And I also agree with Abraham Moslow; sex is a human need. Going without can make you mental.