Israel fires on Gaza militants
GAZA CITY —
Israeli troops hit three Palestinian militants in the northern Gaza Strip on Tuesday denting hopes that a truce with the territory’s Hamas rulers might after all be renewed.
There was no immediate word from Palestinian medics on the health of the three targeted militants but the Israeli army said the trio had been hit as they prepared to plant explosives.
“Three Palestinians were spotted by the army near the border as they were preparing to plant explosives along the border near Nativ Asara,” an army spokesman said.
“Soldiers immediately intervened. There were exchanges of fire, the Palestinians exploded one of their bombs and one of them threw a grenade at the troops,” the spokesman said. “Our forces hit the Palestinians but we don’t know their condition.”
The new violence came as the Islamist Hamas movement said it might be ready to renew an Egyptian-brokered truce with Israel that expired on Friday.
Hamas would consider renewing the six-month truce “if Israel respects the conditions of a ceasefire,” a senior leader, Mahmud Zahar, said.
The conditions include lifting the blockade of the Palestinian enclave and stopping military raids on the stronghold of the Islamist movement which Israel and the West blacklist as a terror group.
“We demand that Israel respect truce conditions… in particular that it stop all form of aggression and open the border crossings,” said Zahar, one of Hamas’s most hardline leaders.
Exiled Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal also appeared to leave the door open to a renewed truce.
“Those who want to talk with us about the truce must address the blockade imposed on our Palestinian people,” Meshaal told the Russia Today satellite channel from his base in the Syrian capital, Damascus.
His comments came two days before Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni is due in Cairo for talks on the Gaza situation with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak.
The six-month ceasefire that has just ended had been largely violated by both sides for more than a month, and its expiry ushered in two days of escalating violence and bellicose rhetoric.
As the Israeli military carried out air strikes and Palestinian militants fired rockets, Israel threatened to launch a major offensive on Gaza and Hamas warned it would respond by resuming suicide attacks inside the Jewish state.
A relative calm returned to Gaza after Hamas announced on Monday it was holding its fire for 24 hours in response to an Egyptian request.
The overcrowded land of some 1.5 million people has been subject to Israeli sanctions and repeated raids since 2006, when Hamas won parliamentary elections and later participated in a deadly cross-border raid in which militants seized an Israeli soldier, who is still being held.
Israel cut off much movement of goods and people in and out of the territory in June 2007 after Hamas, which is sworn to Israel’s destruction, seized Gaza by ousting forces loyal to secular Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas.
Aid groups have repeatedly appealed to Israel to lift its restrictions—which at times have seen Gaza sealed off completely—to avoid a humanitarian crisis in the territory, where most of the population depends on foreign aid.
Coming less than two months before February elections, the latest developments around Gaza pose a dilemma for the Israeli leadership.
In public comments, officials have called for major military action in response to continuing rocket fire and have vowed to topple Hamas.
But in private there is little enthusiasm for such an offensive, for fear that voters will punish politicians at the ballot box if a military operation fails to score a decisive victory against Hamas, observers say.
Speaking in Cairo, French Prime Minister Francois Fillon said that a truce in Gaza was essential to advance the staggering Israeli-Palestinian peace talks.
“Nothing will be possible if the truce is not continued, if there is no real truce,” he said.
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HaroldSteptoe
The Israeli's continue their slaughter of the innocents without any condemnation from important world leaders.
Israel disgust me. Their violenec and lies are dirty, dirty, dirty!
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adaydream
Hamas wants to open the border crossings.
They need food, water, construction materials, general store goods and medicines.
But if these things are allowed through then this planned genocide won't work. < :-)
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itcher74
The hermetic siege on Gaza which has caused the death of hundreds of innocent people through starvation is a brazen violation of international law.
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adaydream
Isreal doesn't care. This is one area I disagree with Barack Obama. In his run up to the election he gave his undieing adoration and support to Isreal. I have to question how he feels about death of innocent Palestineans. < :-)
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itcher74
It would be political suicide in US to openly show solidarity towards the oppressed people of Palestine in US. But Obama who is partly African should know better when it comes to racial discrimination and oppression. With time even US can no longer keep the moral support of Israel as more people are starting to understand this conflict.
Israel has adopted what South Africa dropped. Many people are somparing Israel to former South Africa. Famous people such as Dugaard, Mandela and Jimmy Carter who wrote a book called Peace not apartheid. The United Nations for nearly 40 years has condemned Israel's military occupation, together with colonialism and apartheid.
Dugaard the South African United Nations Human Rights Council and lawyer has written.
*Many aspects of Israel's occupation surpass those of the apartheid regime. Israel's large-scale destruction of Palestinian homes, leveling of agricultural lands, military incursions and targeted assassinations of Palestinians far exceed any similar practices in apartheid South Africa. No wall was ever built to separate blacks and whites.
The United States should not be surprised if the rest of the world begins to lose faith in its commitment to human rights. Some Americans – rightly – complain that other countries are unconcerned about Sudan's violence-torn Darfur region and similar situations in the world. But while the United States itself maintains a double standard with respect to Palestine it cannot expect cooperation from others in the struggle for human rights.*
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skipthesong
Hamas wants to open the border crossings." They are sure going at in the wrong way, wouldn't you say?
in apartheid South Africa. No wall was ever built to separate blacks and whites." because blacks didn't resort to insane methods of getting their points across.
The United States should not be surprised if the rest of the world begins to lose faith in its commitment to human rights." And the Muslims of the area should not be surprised that they are not getting support from the west with their constant antagonizing rocket launches, kidnappings, beheadings, calls for Jihad, and having young men and women in danger by strapping a bomb to themselves.
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skipthesong
Golda Meir quoted by Sarah Honig, Jerusalem Post, 25 November 1995
Aday?
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SuperLib
Can't they get supplies through the Egyptian border?
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itcher74
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skipthesong
Hamas launching home made rcokets is to lift the siege" How long have they been doing that and has it worked?
Israel as occupying power cannot punnish an entire Gaza because they voted for a political party Israel does not like." Oh, so things were rosy? Your statement is immature and false. Not to mention, much of the Palestinian population went into the area after the fact originating from the other outlying countries.
Israel's response has been grossly disproportionate and indiscriminate and resulted in multiple war crimes." Ah, now we see. You are the under dog rooter. What is disproportionate is the what the Muslims have and claim is what is theirs in what was actually Jewish. The disproportionate support the Palestinians have amongst almost 2 Billion Muslims and anti-Jewish/Anti-semtic Westerners is what is gross.
Much of this is simple. Jews would have to give up on Jerusalem, but the Muslims would have to give up their Jihad. And since the Palestinians have so much support from the Muslim world, the guarantee of peace would be needed and that includes setting off rockets that are getting more and more sophisticated.
What you don't seem to realize is that much of the Muslim world does not want Israel and the Palestinians to get along and that is part of the problem. The Palestinians are the beneficiaries of this support so they need to show that they are sincere and want peace and NOT supremacy.
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itcher74
PLO wanted peace but the peace talks did not go too well. Arafat agreed to make a state of the remaining bits of Palestine but Israel chose continued millitary occupation. Hamas has not acknolwedged Israel because israel has not akcnowledged Palestine. Your Gold Meir quote is a good example. Every single Palestinian leader has said that they are willing to make a state of the rest bits of Palestine. Israel has occupied Palestine since 1967 which is what countries and people discuss today. The ongoing occupation of the Occupied Territories. Israel has never annexed the Occupied Territores or given it freedom. Now it has Gaza under a hermetic siege trying to starve the entire population in voting a different political party. So what Israel should do is lift the siege. Then either give freedom to the Palestinians or annex Palestine.
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SuperLib
Israel has fired on ambulances in the past which isn't an acceptable form of combat. People speak out against it. But we both know the militants sometimes use ambulances to transfer fighters and weapons. They load them up with militants then tell us that Israel is breaking the law by firing on them. Garbage. If you're not going to use the ambulance for humanitarian purposes then ambulances lose their protection. That was a choice the militants made, not Israel.
There are countless cases of militants attacking humanitarian assistance given by Israel. The militants have burden down the American School in Palestine which prevents their children from getting an education. They talk about the lack of medical supplies yet seem to smuggle weapons in on a daily basis meaning that's what they themselves choose to invest in.
It's bogus to claim humanitarian reasons for a group that routinely breaks humanitarian laws themselves. At that point you're just trying to help the militants gain a military advantage over Israel, then crying when Israel refuses to go along with it.
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sabiwabi
Can you back this up.
Israel giving humanitarian assistance? You're joking, right?
Anyway, I find this series of maps helps put things in the proper perspective:
http://www.kibush.co.il/show_file.asp?num=553
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skipthesong
itcher: Are you telling me that should Israel move back from the 1967 borders, peace will happen? What happened before 1967? You say this is about freedom for the Palestinians?
Take a look who was pardoned by GW Bush and notice the disadvantage the Jews had in setting up their land, a land returned.. what would you have said then when the strength it seemed was not with the Jews?
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itcher74
Yes. Actually everyone says this including US. Are you saying that Israel should keep it´s apartheid policies instead?
Moderator: Readers, please stop rehashing old historical issues. Your comments should focus on the current situation.
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HaroldSteptoe
Gawd, Once again the facist state of Israel terrorises it's neighbours.
Where is the condemnation America for the death of innocents, using weapons supplied by you to them.
I am appalled that this genocide of the past 40 years has been allowed to continue, and many idiots in America actually believe Israel to be the "good guys"!
Israel stop the terror attacks!!!!
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timewise
The world has been against Israel for a long time. Even when Jewish people were being tortured and killed by the Nazis, the Arabs were making plans to gather all of the Jews into the land in the near east so that they could conquer them and eliminate them.... Israel was willing to divide the land with the "Pals" in 1948, but no one wanted Israel to have any of that land. Not much has changed since then. I suppose that the world will just have to get used to Israel's existence.
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sabiwabi
And if we consider that Palestinians are not even allowed to fish in their own waters, we can be certain of Israel's true motives. The final solution they seem to have in mind is the genocide of the Palestinian people. The world cannot then say they did not know.
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Helter_Skelter
Sabiwabi,
Brought to you by Pallywood productions:
Two ambulances that had been somehow damaged long before the July Israel-Hezbollah conflict even began were dragged out of a salvage yard, where they had been rusting for months or years. They were taken to a parking lot and smashed up even more, inside and out. Then fresh gurneys were placed inside one of them. An intentionally amateurish video was then taken of the two vehicles, in order to show the damage. That night, as planned, some Red Cross workers feigning minor injuries rushed into a hospital in Tyre, and recounted a tale of horror: their ambulances had been attacked by Israeli missiles. The media was notified.
http://zombietime.com/fraud/ambulance/
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Helter_Skelter
With Israel's military strength, this could be done in an afternoon. Is Israel's military so incompetent? C'mon Sabi. We all know this conflict is about Jihad and the ethnic cleansing of the Infidel. It's the same holy war being fought by Muslims around the globe. The only people supporting the terrorist Muslims here are Jihadists like yourself and gullible first-world socialists.
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HaroldSteptoe
Helter Skelter- The Israeli termination of the "Palestinian" problem is more subtle. Oh yes, us not blinded by US right wing politics and media can see the truth.
Israel kills without remorse. Allows settlers to steal mor land, they promised the US they wouldn'T, and even supplies them with utilities.
It is a slow process, but Israel is patient.
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Helter_Skelter
But the population of "Palestinians" has continued to increase since the creation of the State of Israel. In fact, the "Palestinian" population growth inside and outside Israel is exceeding the Jewish population growth. So is this the "slow process" of termination you're talking about? It seems more like it's going in reverse to me. So much for your theory of patience.
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HaroldSteptoe
Helter Skelter- The only nation in the Mid East willing and capable (nuclear missle stockpile) is Israel.
They were allowed these by America, their everlasting friends who will support their aim of total Middle East domination and control.
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sabiwabi
Harold, Indeed.
The only US president to ever object to Israel's nukes was JFK, and we all know how that ended...
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Helter_Skelter
They've had nuclear weapons for over a half a century now and have never used them, despite repeated attacks by their Islamic Arab neighbors. I wouldn't worry about Israel's nukes. Best worry about Iranian nukes.
Israel's nuclear program was developed by the French and British, not America.
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skipthesong
Helter, Felice Navidad amigo,
You made my day. Guys, pack it up, Helter has slammed yous all.
Sabi: The only US president to ever object to Israel's nukes was JFK, and we all know how that ended..." ¡Coño!...........come on man. Bro, if you wrote a book with your conspiracies, you'd be rich! Oh, and I do wish you well.. really I do.
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sabiwabi
Indeed, how can anyone demand a truce while keeping the Palestinians under such crowded conditions with blockades. Seems the Israelis are begging the Palestinians to respond, to "legitimize" the Israeli retaliation. Its more of their usual tactic.
BTW, skip, Michael Collins Piper already wrote a book about it.
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doop26
first of all, hello everyone. forgive me for my english. as an israeli im very interested to see comments from around the world about our problems. im very sorry to see people who doesnt know everything and decieve other people. i live in netiv haasara, the very same moshav wich the three militants were killed on its border. everyday missles hit in our settelements even though we left gaza, one of my friends die from this missle 3 years ago. some of the missles hit hospitals and designate to hit civilian populations. i was three years in the army, in gaza, and never allowd to shoot even once, because of the little chance of hitting a civilian. you know today i read that hamas made a new rule in gaza, everyone who steal they cut his hand, everyone who drinks alchohol get whipped by law. sorry for being too long, thank you all have a good day.
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sabiwabi
Hello doop, quite an amazing story there. I agree many on this forum are quite misinformed and are trying to misguide others.
I guess you were in a different israeli army from the won that seems to intentionally aim for civilians and journalists.
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skipthesong
itcher I support you claim that the Palestinian are living in a bad conditions, there is no argument to that. My argument is that how can Israel, which is a country whether you like it or not with many people, open their gates to their country to people who are putting up demands and when those demands are not met, the usual result is destruction. Hamas and most, if not all, Islamic led countries feel Israel should not exist, but it does. Look at what just happened: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,472246,00.html
Additionally, when a young man is convinced to strap a bomb to himself and blows up, it is not Israel's fault, but the fault of leaders of the area as they need a new method. The hate for Jews by Muslims goes back long before there was an Israel, you know that. Now, to let you guard down against your enemy is pure stupidity. The solution, Hamas agrees to live side by side with Israel and within Israel. In Israel everyone is free to practice their religion, so Hamas needs to come to terms of sharing sacred sites and perhaps those sites can be for all, under the UN if you will, and not under either state.
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Goya_Vencedor
It is sad so see articles like these posted on different news mediums from around the world which mislead readers to quickly condemn Israel for their actions which they take against their enemies.
Like For example:
Plant? They were not planting anything near to a C4 explosive, they were ready to deploy Qassam rockets! YES Qassam rockets which target random civilians and other places on southern Israel.
How can we forget months back when Israel did keep there part of the truce when they faithfully delivered the humanitarian aids to Gaza but Hamas let their baboons to continue their rocket rains over the cities of Sderot and Askelon? And Israel didn't just only tolerated the bombardments for 4 days, it was weeks passed that Israel waited for Hamas to honor the "truce" but they never did..
I don't want to sound apologetic, but it is just saddening to see commentators who quickly condemn Israel and not they do not inquire more on why does Israel do what they do..
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YuriOtani
What about the Egypt border? They can let "relief" supplies into the West Bank and have chosen to close it. It is all about those Israeli "no goods". There has to be a reason the Egyptian government has sealed off its border with the West bank but the world and press are silent about this. They are responsible for part of the blockade.
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itcher74
Every Palestinian leader has agreed to make a sate according to 1967 borders living side by side with Israel. israel on the other hand keeps expanding sttaling more land against international law. Every new settlement in West Bank is illeagal. The siege in Gaza is illeagal. There have een no food going ito Gaza for 2 weeks. People are straving to death. That is why millitants are firing rockets.
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doop26
itcher do you expect israel to supply palestinians anything they want include water and electricity( which we supply them right know as we speaking) and recieve quassa misseles in return, like nothing happen. only today 50 rockets have been fired towards israel (one thailand worker injured) while israel didnt response. israel do accept going back to 67 borders but the main problem is "the right of return".
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adaydream
I see where Hamas is evil.
I see where Isreal is evil.
I hope that someday these two enemies run out of missiles and rockets and have to fight hand to hand. Then when they have to look each other in the eye, I hope they see the ignorance of their ways.
Pray for peace folks. Everywhere. < :-)
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itcher74
As occupying force Israel is bound by law and agreements such as the 4th Geneva Convention. According to the Conventions.* Starvation of civilians as a method of warfare is prohibited.* So by starving the entire population Israel is committing a war crime.
Israel has not accepted to return to the 1967 borders because Israel keeps building new illeagal settlemets in West Bank and have built the apartheid wall which is illeagal according to the International Court of Justice and cut Palestinian towns, villages, houses. Land grab. Every country in the world including USA and all other UN security counsil members have voted for Israel to return to the 1967 borders.
The "Right of Return" states that all refugees that have been displaced may return to their homes. This does not exist for Palestinians. Palestinians are often denied the right to return to their homeland, Jews from around the world leave their home country to live on stolen land. By definition, these Jews are not refugees, as many are of European descent whose ancestors converted many years prior. Meanwhile, the Palestinians who have lived on and worked their land for eons are being forced out and into refugee camps.
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adaydream
itcher74 - Please.... You know Isreal can do no wrong. They are the Jews, the holy race.
Well, if you believe the bible and the Jewish perspective that they are destined to rule over each and everybody.
But I'm from the school. No body is special. Not Christians. Not Mormons. And definately not the Jews.
Like I said, take away their missiles and rockets and let them see each others faces as they are beating the crap out of each other. < :-)
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doop26
i speak for the name of myself. israel dont starve palestinians, they have enough food and eagypt can suplly them food too. they doesnt depend on food through the israeli border. as for your illeagal settlements, israel expelled 9000 jews from their home in gush katif and in return got thousands of misseles day by day. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%27sunilateraldisengagementplan http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=iw&q=%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%A0%D7%95%D7%99+%D7%92%D7%95%D7%A9+%D7%A7%D7%98%D7%99%D7%A3&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=videoresultgroup&resnum=4&ct=title#http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=iw&q=%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%A0%D7%95%D7%99+%D7%92%D7%95%D7%A9+%D7%A7%D7%98%D7%99%D7%A3&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=videoresult_group&resnum=4&ct=title#
believe me that we will have an agreement with the palestinians the settelments in the west bank will be expelled too, the government is trying to stop it but its not easy, anyway they are negligible. as for the "right of return" this is very complexed issue, the arabs didnt accept the division program in 48 and declared war in order to destroy one day country so they are responsible for this refugees, in 49 israel declared that it willing to let most of the refuseegies come back but they refused. "Jews from around the world leave their home country to live on stolen land" - i feel your words written out of hatred, we didnt dteal from no one, we have the right for our country. anyone who is man enough to declare war should take the responsibility of loosing this war too, israel gave eagypt back "sinay" peninsula which is twice bigger then israel.
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doop26
ok its my last comment here, i dont want to bother you to much. anyway itcher after the evacuation israel destroy all the houses, the only thing that didnt been destroyed is the synagogue, because we cannot destroy our own synagogues but.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydtJqFcRtGc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnr-a4INu0k&feature=related
so you have holiday, i dont if im right but merry christmas to you all, include you itcher
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Helter_Skelter
"Palestinians" love their misery.
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SuperLib
I hope those militants have a very, Merry Christmas!
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Sarge
"Hamas rulers"
Mis-rulers.
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