Israel says it will do anything to stop Iran from getting nuclear bomb

Tuesday 28th July, 07:17 AM JST

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smithinjapan at 06:58 PM JST - 28th July

skip: "You can disagree with Israel's reactions, but you can not claim that the country shouldn't be there. to me, saying that Israel should not be there is anti-Semite; why can't they have a homeland, especially one that small?"

Are you misdirecting again? Where and when did I say that Israel should have no homeland? They do, and they should. And if it's where they want it to be, that's fine, so long as they don't try to seize any more. I think EVERYONE should have a homeland. In fact, I also think the Palestinians should have one too. Don't you?

"did it occur to you that instead of being upset that they just might be scared? Iran is very capable of "wiping" Israel even without Nukes."

Good point. Maybe Kim Jong Il is scared. Should we give him carte blanche to do as he chooses against whomever he chooses? I realize that's a very unrelated comparison, but you catch my drift -- if Israel is indeed 'scared' it's all the more reason to seek a peaceful resolution, not to engage in bombast and going against their main support group (the US). What's more, simple fear is no reason to support someone.

"A lot of groups claim that, its not a monopoly by Jews."

True, but not to the same extent -- or at least, the Jews know the extent to which they could take advantage. For example, imagine if they DID suddenly decide to nuke Iran. What SHOULD the reaction by the world be? Outright condemnation, a cut to ALL support AS WELL AS outright sanctions of everything. A demand that the government give up and be tried for war crimes, etc. But these are the Jews we are talking about. Some would STILL be against giving up all support and leaving them to the consequences because it would be 'like before'. Israel is depending on that sympathy, and if the sympathy is not forthright they depend on the anti-Semite card and history.
smithinjapan at 07:52 PM JST - 28th July

Someone pointed out before that they should all just sit down and watch 'Don't Mess With the Zohan' or whatever the Adam Sandler movie is called and just chill out.

I agree with the comments above that this is mostly just the leaders fudging every thing up. And I also agree with skip that it's always that way.
usaexpat at 11:23 PM JST - 28th July

When Israel says they'll do anything to keep Iran from getting nukes you should believe them. Regardless of my feelings on the foot dragging for a two state solution the Israeli's are tough. If you really think Israel wouldn't bomb Iran in a pre-emptive strike your fooling yourself. The mullahs in Iran should think this one through a bit before they end up in a war against Israel that would probably end up toppling them from power.
SuperLib at 11:28 PM JST - 28th July

tkoind2: And Iran has not done anything to truly threaten Israel

Well they train and fund terrorist groups who kill Israeli innocents. But besides that, nothing really.
LIBERTAS at 01:00 AM JST - 29th July

This is the scoop: One more time. Iran does not have a nuclear weapon.

Iran is not building a nuclear weapon. The available evidence shows that they stopped their fledgling program in 2003.

What Iran is building is a nuclear power station, which they are legally allowed to do under the nuclear non-proliferation treaty, which both Iran and the United States have signed. Under article IV of the NNPT the United States is obligated to assist Iran in building their power station.

Even if Iran had a nuclear weapon they are not a threat either to the United States, which has thousands of warheads, or to Israel, which has at least 200.

Iran has not invaded anyone for 200 years.

In contrast ...

Israel has nuclear warheads, which they build in a no-longer-secret lab underneath the Dimona Reactor. Israel has never signed the NNPT and does not permit inspections of its facilities by the IAEA. Israel is constantly invading their neighbors.

Israel made the same accusations about Iraq just prior to bombing the power station at Osirik. Subsequent inspections following the 2003 invasion confirmed there was no clandestine weapons factory at the site. Israel's claims that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction were likewise totally false.

Who is the problem child of the Middle East? It ain't Iran, that's for sure.
Helter_Skelter at 02:13 AM JST - 29th July

I don't think Iranian people want to do anything bad to Israel. I doubt the average Iranian gives Israel much serious thought.

I guess you must of missed those "Death to Israel! Death to America!" rallies.
mael at 04:19 AM JST - 29th July

Personally I very much doubt 'Israel' will go it alone and bomb yet another sovereign nation (Iran).

Israel would do the bombing by proxy using the US. This way the 'Jews' will appear to have no blood on their hands - as far as the TV-watching peons are concerned anyway.

The reason Iran hasn't been bombed thus far is because other methods to achieve control over Teheran haven't quite been abandoned yet. Israelis covertly infiltrating and supporting dissident groups within Iran are proving incapable of operating with sufficient stealth and though their destabilising efforts are not without successes, the Jewish agents operating in Iran are apparently being found and dealt with, so overt military action is becoming the only option remaining.

The obstacle to getting their US supporters (The whole government there + the media) - is persuading the Americans to accept that they must do it based on fomenting a reaction through inferred guilt or otherwise twanging the bleeding-hearts' harp-strings. aaThis is becoming increasingly difficult as more and more US citizens (and others) are awakening to the obvious fact that the wars in the M.E. (in particular) are not at all in anyone's interest other than those who have a vested interest in 'Israel.'

Will it be another false-flag operation? A dirty-nuke in Washington and they find an Iranian passport intact at ground-zero?
hworta269 at 06:18 AM JST - 29th July

The government of Iran commits acts of war against ISrael funding terrorist groups in Gaza and the west bank and giving them rockets to launch at Israel. If any nation indirectly caused 8000 rockets to be launched at any other nation there would be no debating the concequences of a military action against them.
Helter_Skelter at 06:19 AM JST - 29th July

LIBERTAS

Israel made the same accusations about Iraq just prior to bombing the power station at Osirik.

Israel did the world a favor when they took out Iraq's Osirak nuclear reactor in 1981. It's appears they're going to do the world another favor by taking out Iran's nuclear facilities. When they're done, thank them.

Israel has nuclear warheads

They've had them for half a century now. How many times have they used them, despite multiple wars by Muslim Arabs who want the "Infidel" state eliminated? Israel has proven to be a responsible nuclear nation. Iran, on the other hand, exports terrorism through Hezbollah and Hamas.
SuperLib at 08:10 AM JST - 29th July

LIBERTAS: Iran is not building a nuclear weapon.

The head of the IAEA says he believes Iran's ultimate goal is nuclear weapons. Should we ignore him?
SuperLib at 08:15 AM JST - 29th July

hworta269: If any nation indirectly caused 8000 rockets to be launched at any other nation there would be no debating the concequences of a military action against them.

Right. The country trying to get nukes is the country actively engaging in war with Israel. Israel, the country that has nukes, is not killing a single Iranian. And some people want to see Iran get nukes out of "fairness."
LoveUSA at 08:22 AM JST - 29th July

Iran wants weapons for protection from aggressive countries. I think Iran is aggressive but there are other countries far more aggressive than Iran and they already have weapons. All the countries that have weapons of mass destruction have to destroy them. The country that has the most weapons of mass destruction shall stop accusing other countries developing them of terrorism. It is hypocritical and arrogant.
hworta269 at 06:46 PM JST - 29th July

Iran is surrounded by more agressive nations? Are they paying you be spout their propaganda?
SuperLib at 11:02 PM JST - 29th July

LoveUSA: Iran wants weapons for protection from aggressive countries.

Iran is killing innocents in Iraq, Israel, and Lebanon. I don't see any Iraqis, Israelis, Lebanese, or Americans killing Iranians. Perhaps you need to rethink your definition of "aggressor" or simply learn some basic facts.
umioso at 06:47 AM JST - 30th July

Considering the threats issued by the Iranian President, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's call to have Israel,"wiped off the map", I do not fault Israel for doing ANYTHING to protect itself.