Israeli forces pound targets, draw near Gaza City

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SuperLib at 01:27 AM JST - 11th January

The images from the lead stories regarding Gaza on the web:

CNN.com: Gaza with smoke over the city

BBC.com: Armed Israel soldier

Guardian.co.uk: Smoke over Gaza

Aljazeeran.net: A Palestinian standing in rubble

LATimes.com: Smoke over Gaza

LaMonde: Protesters supporting Palestine, damaged buildings in Gaza

The Independent: Same picture with Palestinians holding dead children

CBS News: Smoke over Gaza

MSNBS: Palestinians holding babies ready for burial

ABC news: Palestinians holding an injured child

Fox News: Israeli tank firing

Ah, found one! Fox news.... They have rotating pictures. One is of the tank firing, one is of shells going into Gaza, the next one is again with shells going into Gaza, the next one is of the UN, and finally the have one picture of an Israeli mother ducking for cover from Palestinian rockets.

Not bad.....only took me 11 sites to find one that didn't present the conflict as Israeli weapons vs. Palestinian civilians. Still no pictures of Hamas or Palestinian militants. Can someone help me find just one, please?
JackBerstein at 01:52 AM JST - 11th January

Superlib, But what started this conflict was Hamas rockets (the pin), right?

I admit that news channels in recent days has let a few moments of decency slip by (Rosemary Church, Amanpour), probably because they want to keep at least some credibility in this conflict. But where has the media been for the past decades, while the heavy dude was sitting on the guy. The Palestinian situation never received decent coverage. Even today, we still get c-nts like Jim Clancy defending Israel, constantly whining about how the Israelis have suffered so much.
SuperLib at 02:26 AM JST - 11th January

Like I said....just show me one major news website that has a picture of Palestinian militants on their lead story about Gaza. Just one.
HonestDictator at 02:57 AM JST - 11th January

SuperLib: Ouch, that unbiased MM has gotta hurt. Old saying that everyone needs to heed, especially considering the fact that if you aren't there you don't know. "Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see." This especially applies to the news videos provided by, oh my, mostly Arab news stations. Good old propaganda, people fall for it ALL the time...

Instead of poking the big guy with a pin, why didn't they call for help diplomatically??? Or was it mostly because the democratically elected Hamas is considered by a majority of the countries to be a terrorist orginazation?
JackBerstein at 03:15 AM JST - 11th January

Instead of poking the big guy with a pin, why didn't they call for help diplomatically???

Tried that, many times. Americas veto power seems to always get in the way though.

Superlib, instead of having the TV in the background and reading headlines, you should pay attention to the spin. Although, as I admitted, the media appear to have woken up a bit, their spin still tells me Hamas, the terrorists, are responsible for this.

Considering the stuff Isreal is doing now, its getting hard to put a completely pro-Israeli spin on it, but they still try. What they show on the news is still nothing compared to what is actually going on in Gaza. If the news was truly unbiased, the world would be screaming much louder than it is today.

Honto, Jack?

Attarimae jan!
Molenir at 03:25 AM JST - 11th January

Really? Hamas is responsible for this? How do you figure that? I mean like SuperLib says, you can't even find a picture of Hamas, of them fighting, shooting at Israelis. How do you get that from the media spin. The only thing I get, is the impression that Israel is murdering civilians. So much for unbiased news eh?
SezWho2 at 05:08 AM JST - 11th January

Gavinova,

Yes, it was my first post on this topic on this article. It was not my first post on this topic and it certainly was not the first post on this article.

I'm not sure we're in agreement. My opinion is that it is fairly strange for the Israeli army to have driven residents of the occupied territories into Gaza and for Israel to have both denied the Palestinians the right of return and to have failed to provide for the welfare of the Gazans and then complain about the annoyance of largely ineffective incoming rockets.

Israel basically has limited choices. It can resolve to live with the status quo. It can try to make the Palestinians understand they have been defeated, that it has no intention of ever honoring its original commitments to them, and then "allow" them to set up a hangdog, patchwork state next to Israel. It can remove itself completely from the territories it occupied after 1967 on some terms that are acceptable to the Palestinians. Or it can try genocide.

The root problem in today's Middle East is the Palestinian Mandate and the sufferance of the creation of a Jewish state in the middle of land which, even at the time of Israel's formation, was primarily Muslim. However, Israel has strong supporters that are not willing to undo what was a very bad idea. Personally, I think the UN headquarters should be relocated to Jerusalem which sh
SezWho2 at 05:09 AM JST - 11th January

oops...

...which should then be declared an international city, but that's not going to happen either.
mongolll at 06:24 AM JST - 11th January

face it guys, israel is the only one who faces islamic terror by saying no more to the rocket attacks on its cities now hamas regime is hiding under the civilians and blames idf for the results i guess any other country would have done the same if attacked
SezWho2 at 06:33 AM JST - 11th January

Israel is not the only state that faces Islamic terror, but it may be the only one that faces Hamas rockets. You cannot be content to ignore the people of Gaza for decades and now pretend to have compassion for them.
SuperLib at 09:20 AM JST - 11th January

But Sez....do you think the right of return is possible? Put another way, do you think you're offering a solution or just encouraging more war by the Palestinians?
SezWho2 at 05:46 PM JST - 11th January

Put another way, do you think you're offering a solution or just encouraging more war by the Palestinians?

Neither. I think I'm identifying a problem that has to be resolved. Hamas rockets have now reached the same Ashkelon from which the Israeli army forcibly relocated the Arab Muslim population to Gaza. If the Israelis can manage a 1300-year memory of home, it shouldn't be surprising that the Palestinians can hark back 60 years.
kinniku at 11:51 PM JST - 11th January

Is that the same Gaza that Palestinian Arabs forced Palestinian Jews who had been there for centuries to leave in 1929?

I guess it shouldn't be surprising that Israeli Jews can hark back centuries.

My point, of course, is that no matter how some would choose to deny it (not saying you are one of them), there is not just one side to this and both (or all) sides need to be address in serious negotiations.
sabiwabi at 01:05 PM JST - 13th January

Is that the same Gaza that Palestinian Arabs forced Palestinian Jews who had been there for centuries to leave in 1929?

Probably not. Why would they do such a thing.
kinniku at 11:18 AM JST - 15th January

Probably not. Why would they do such a thing.

Palestinian Arabs did force Palestinian Jews who had been there for centuries to leave Gaza in 1929. However, I am not surprised you are unaware of this or that you did not even attempt to check the history on the matter. As I wrote, there is not just one side to this and both (or all) sides need to be address in serious negotiations.