Israeli troops begin withdrawal from Gaza

Monday 19th January, 08:10 AM JST

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timorborder at 02:09 PM JST - 19th January

Begin withdrawal for Gaza, blah, blah, blah.

This whole episode is a disgrace and the world should hang its head in shame. On one side you have a US-backed Israel acting like a street thug testing the latest weapon sytems in downtown Gaza, and on the other side you have HAMAS, whose actions are beginning to redefine the term "islamic fundamentalism." HAMAS's only reason for existence seems to be to incite the aforesaid Israel into conducting atrocities against Palestinian civilians. All and every player in this debacle should be vilified.

What a joke (not). These refugees in Gaza have been "refugees" for life. They are surrounded by a crxp hole environment that has little or no infrastructure, being at the beck and call of a neighbor (Israel).
likeitis at 03:12 PM JST - 19th January

Nippon5,

You have some interesting points, but if the shoreline of Gaza strip were added to Israel, it would account for about one-fifth of Israel's total shoreline. Such as it is, Israel has plenty of access to the sea, is not landlocked by any means, and they have total access to what should be Gaza's territorial waters, while Gazan's do not. Gaza has no natural harbors. And Gaza strip is thin and not valuable agriculturally.

For keeping a peoples walled up, its pretty good. It is more valuable in that capacity to the Israelis than anything else, clearly.
SuperLib at 06:02 PM JST - 19th January

Let's hope the cease fire holds. I have my doubt about Hamas, but in the end it's their choice and not my current opinion that will matter.
Triumvere at 07:15 PM JST - 19th January

I think one of the biggest parts of the problem here are that people don't care about the Palestinians, but rather they care about the idea of the Palestinians. The actual people, not so much. Instead the whole situation is look at a great chance to be dogmatic and thump one's chest.
jeancolmar at 11:35 PM JST - 19th January

Israel is pulling out for now but the blockade is still on. As you read this people are dying in Gaza's hospitals for lack of blood. Jordan has sent blood by ship. The Israelis blocked it.

The genocide goes on, only right now not with bombs.
AlfGarnett at 01:30 AM JST - 20th January

I agree with jeancolmer. Them Israelis aint going to stop making life hell for the poor people in Gaza.

Mark my words, if it looks like Obama will support them like Bush done, then the genocide will restart, and our tv's will be filled with images of mutilated women and children.
Molenir at 05:19 AM JST - 20th January

Wait, so you are saying now that they're pulling out, with only 1100 dead, the genocide is over, at least for now? Once again, I think you need to check a dictionary and learn what the word means. Genocide is not what happened, and is happening in Gaza. Far from it. And Israel has been letting supplies in. Every single day, even while the fighting raged. I don't think theres ever been a war fought where the non-combatants were so respected, and worried over.

Having said all this. I think most of us truly hope the fighting is over. Hopefully having had their butts bombed, Hamas will start to see reason, and work to better their people, rather then just try to kill Israelis.
AlfGarnett at 05:49 AM JST - 20th January

Molenir: You got the wrong end of the stick completely son.

It was bleeding genocide, full stop. Tens of thousands are now homeless, i saw on the BBC whol streets in ruin, the commentator said it were like an earthquake had struck.

It all depends on whether Obama supports them or not, whetehr the wanton genocide continues, us who don't take sides and are moderate can see that plainly.

Molenir, i suggerst you educate yourself with the amount of Palestinians killed in the last decades Vs Israelis, the genocide is ongoing. Also remeber with of the sides attacked a US Navy ship.

Hope Israel changes its ways, and gives peace to its victims.
Helter_Skelter at 06:31 AM JST - 20th January

Them Israelis aint going to stop making life hell for the poor people in Gaza.

Spare us the faux concern. It's Hamas terrorists that have made life hell for the "poor people of Gaza" who voted them in. But hey, the left always pretends to care about civilian casualties when the US and Israel are involved. Good political mileage.
AlfGarnett at 06:46 AM JST - 20th January

Helter Skelter: Due to your blinded right wing extremism, which absolves Israel of any crime ever, you cannot see the genocide for what itis.

People wiv your mindest in America is the problem, You don'T even get teh invasion was done inbetween presidents very slys. Whatever happend the ceasefire would happen before Obama became President.

Strewth, even a child could work that out innit!
bushlover at 07:18 AM JST - 20th January

I'm willing to bet Hamas launches more rockets in the near future and brings down the rath of Israel again and all the liberals will be crying why is Israel doing it?? Just can't see the forest for the trees.
Helter_Skelter at 07:36 AM JST - 20th January

you cannot see the genocide for what itis.

You know, there's actual genocide occurring in the world today, particularly north Africa. How come you never hear a peep from the left regarding this human tragedy? Because there's no political gain. But Israel defends itself from Islamic terrorists who celebrate their own civilian deaths as much as Israeli deaths, and it's "genocide". I see what phonies the left are, so don't tell me how much you care about the "Palestinian" people.

Makes perfect sense for Israel to take out Hamas rockets now before Obama is sworn in. Obama is likely be an appeaser and weak on the war on terrorism. However, it would also be a huge mistake if Israel withdrew early and didn't finish seriously crippling Hamas's ability to smuggle weapons and launch rockets.

As long as Hamas terrorists continue to shield themselves among civilians, there will be civilian deaths. But Hamas knows that there are people on the left who will exploit this and use it against Israel, and ultimately help their cause. The terrorist group Hamas salutes you!
AlfGarnett at 07:55 AM JST - 20th January

Helter Skelter: another one of your posts that i can put down easy, haha.

This topic is about the MId East not Africa. And to say i am left wing is bleeding ridiculous, i'm a bloody Tory and proud ov it!

Just watch, it's all up to what Obama's policy and what he'll put up with from Israel. If he follows the warmongering Bush doctrine , expect rivers of blood in Gaza in the near future.
Molenir at 02:24 PM JST - 20th January

So once again, no comment on the real genocide that actually is occurring around the world eh? Basically what you're saying, is if a thousand are killed, and 10k lose their homes, thats genocide. And thats NONSENSE, Full stop. Now if there were 100,000 dead, and a million homeless, ya know I would agree with you. But there aren't, not because they couldn't have killed them, but because Israel has a basic respect for Human life that Hamas and those of their ilk you so respect, do not.

Whether or not there are rivers of blood in gaza, pretty much depends solely on Hamas. If they choose peace, there will be peace, if they choose murder, then your rivers of blood will occur.
Helter_Skelter at 02:33 PM JST - 20th January

Whether or not there are rivers of blood in gaza, pretty much depends solely on Hamas.

Couldn't have said it better myself.