Monday May 28, 2012

Israeli troops kill 6 Palestinians in surge of violence

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    adaydream

    What the hell is this? Israel goes a few weeks or months and make like they want to be good neighbors, then they do this. It's easy to see how Gaza feels like and is the victim to Israeli atrocities.

    Israel did not let Abbas know of the raid in advance, said Maj. Peter Lerner, an Israeli army spokesman.

    Coming into solvern territory and attacking the citizens without talking to the Gazans. That's a blatant attack. Israel has taken lesser actions from Gaza and waged damn near all our war.

    Israel is run by bunch of PIGS < :-)

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    perspective

    adaydream - of course, the Palestinians killing Israeli citizens (never mind each other) and doing things like firing rockets into Israeli territory makes them good neighbors? And those bad Israeli pigs should just take it no matter what the provocation on the advice of well-informed and intentioned people much like yourself, right?

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    perspective

    BTW - it's sovereign

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    adaydream

    Thanks for the spelling lessen.

    Gaza didn't fire rockets here.

    Israel’s military said the three, affiliated with a violent offshoot of Abbas’ Fatah movement, were targeted for killing an Israeli settler in a roadside ambush earlier in the week and had turned down a chance to surrender.

    These were criminals that needed to be arrested and tried. Not tracked down and murdered out right. Did they get the right murderers or just 3 individuals who they wanted to do away with?

    Would you expect Canadian authorities to come to US authorities before they come in and try to take criminals from inside the US? Or are you alright with the Canadian Mounted Police just waltzing in and doing their thing?

    Yeah the Israelis who authorized this action are PIGS. < :-)

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    perspective

    adaydream - I guess you think that the US was wrong to go after AlQaeda in Afghanistan after 9/11?

    The state of Israel has been under constant attack for decades. If their Islamic neighbors really wanted peace and a viable Palestinian state it would have happened a long time ago.

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    perspective

    Gaza didn't fire rockets here.

    No, you're right, this was just a common garden variety murder. The rocket attacks happened many times in the past, along with bus bombings, etc. thanks for setting me straight.

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    SuperLib

    Israel’s military said the three, affiliated with a violent offshoot of Abbas’ Fatah movement, were targeted for killing an Israeli settler in a roadside ambush earlier in the week and had turned down a chance to surrender.

    Pretty typical. The Palestinian ambush is ignored and not printed by the media, but when Israel responds the story is suddenly worth printing. That way Israel looks like the aggressor 100% of the time.

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    adaydream

    were targeted for killing an Israeli settler in a roadside ambush earlier in the week and had turned down a chance to surrender.

    The three Gazans were criminals I thoroughly agree. They were murderers, if these were the three criminals.

    In the Gaza Strip, three young men approaching Israel’s southern border were killed by shots from an Israeli helicopter gunship.

    Now defend the actions of this killing. Tell me how justified this action is.

    Then where are the facts that these three were the murderers? Oh yeah I read:

    Lerner said troops “had to operate under the assumption that they (the suspects) are dangerous.”

    Lerner said Subeh was hiding in a small crawl space in his home when he was killed.

    Real dangerous.

    I agree that there was a crime committed but I'm not convinced of the morality of Israel. Must be because they're PIGS. < :-)

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    WilliB

    Press bias as usual. When muslim Arabs attack Jews, it is buried on the back pages. Israel responds, and immediately we get screaming headlines about Israel killing "Palestinians".

    Just shows how the Western media has swallowed the muslim Arab narrative hook, line, sinker.

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    HonestDictator

    Well, we weren't there so we can't argue if the 3 men were or were not what they are stated to be. No point in arguing this one out since we don't have any hard core proof of their innocence or guilt.

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    SuperLib

    adaydream: Now defend the actions of this killing. Tell me how justified this action is.

    The Palestinian militants created the situation where people approaching the border or checkpoints are viewed with suspicion with their countless attacks, sometimes using even mentally handicapped people and women pretending to be injured. They have no one to blame but themselves, especially after warning shots are fired.

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    Molenir

    I disagree with adaydream as usual of course. I don't approve of his rhetoric on the subject. I also don't approve of the actions these Pals took, to my mind Israels response was completely justified. Having said this though...

    Their actions make them look like the aggressor. Was there no way they could have arrested the attackers instead of storming their homes and killing them? Couldn't they have worked with the Pals to have them turned over, or simply waited for things to die down a bit, then take em out, one by one. Did they have to do this so blatantly? Half the time I wonder if Israel really wants peace.

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    adaydream

    Molenir you say you disagree with me but your statement:

    Their actions make them look like the aggressor. Was there no way they could have arrested the attackers instead of storming their homes and killing them? Couldn't they have worked with the Pals to have them turned over, or simply waited for things to die down a bit, then take em out, one by one. Did they have to do this so blatantly? Half the time I wonder if Israel really wants peace.

    is virtually what I said. I just went on and said that Israel was the ultimate villian in this situation b ecause of the way they punished Gaza. So you can say you disagree, but your words don't express it. < :-)

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    Molenir

    I disagree generally with the implication that Israel is always wrong. I also disagree with your rhetoric, calling Israelis Pigs, repeatedly. The sentiment that in this case, the actions by Israel make them seem like the aggressor, that I agree with.

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    goddog

    Much cheaper to kill the scum rather then keep them fed and guarded in jail. Good job Isreal

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    SuperLib

    Molenir: the actions by Israel make them seem like the aggressor, that I agree with.

    That's because we're only getting half of the story, as usual. Notice the detail the article goes into when describing how the Palestinians were killed, and then notice how the Israeli death is simply described as an ambush and left at that. Where is the quote from the settler's wife, if there is one? Did he die in her arms or just alone in the gutter?

    One thing we'll probably never know is what really happened in the raid. Were they really given a chance to surrender? I know Israel takes precautions to protect their soldiers, even at the expense of collateral damage to others. That could be the case here. But I also know that the Palestinians are trained on how to talk to the media. You can actually go online and see videos of Palestinians reporters telling witnesses what to say and how to say it before they start rolling the tape. Whether Israel gave them a chance to surrender or not they're going to say that Israel never gave them the chance.

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    Helter_Skelter

    The target of Saturday’s predawn raids were three longtime members of Fatah’s violent offshoot, the Al Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades.

    Good riddance.

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