Israel's Peres says Chavez, Ahmadinejad will fall
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DickMorris
I hope Mr Peres is correct in his prediction. American style democratic systems are urgently needed by these 2 repressive regimes.
I always found Mr Peres slightly too liberal for my liking, but i agree with his views on this matter 100%.
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yabits
This brings back memories of the Woody Allen movie, Bananas, in which the Chavez-like leader of his country announces that all citizens are to change their underwear three times a day. "Underwear shall be worn on the outside, so we can check."
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LoveUSA
what is so bad about preserving water
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TheQuestion
Nothing, what is so bad about jacuzzis?
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sabiwabi
No, instead more leaders will follow their examples. Its the criminal governments like the Israeli one that will fall.
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Badsey
a good example of sabre-rattling. Translation: we want your assets and oil.
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smithinjapan
I can definitely see Venezuela not putting up with it for too much longer, particularly given the fact that what's going on there is a recent phenomenon (and lest we forget, Chavez was put into power in direct response to the growing anti-American sentiment bush instilled... sorry, but true). Iran is a different story -- it's been the way it is for some time, and is has become far more entrenched since the US helped affect 'regime change' there and effectively put the Shah in his position. There are far more people there with far more to lose, who will fight tooth and nail.
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SuperLib
You really do get 100% of your international news from Japan Today, don't you?
Venezuela has a host of very serious domestic issues from the economy to immigration to the military to basic human rights. Others were talking about that while Chavez was essentially turning into a dictator, but I seem to recall people such as yourself loving the guy because he "called out Bush." It's amazing that you couldn't learn even the most basic issues facing the average Venezuelan, which ultimately resulted in the absolutely absurd statement above.
In the end Peres might be right, but since Chavez is essentially a dictator now there's not much people can do to get rid of him. Some of us warned others about what was happening, but people like you were too busy whoring out Venezuela to aid your Bush obsession that you're just now starting to realize it. Congrats. Chavez owes you one for helping mute the real issues and focusing on Bush instead.
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Badsey
Why is the U.S. Staging troops in Columbia in preparation for the invasion of Venezuela?
Iran is basically surrounded by Nato Troops (Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan).
Possession is 9/10 of the law -if need be by force. So Peres's comments do not suprise me + you can make more money off an unstable Gov -Federal Reserve contracting the money supply is a good example = they now have the money to take Iran and Venezuela plus the people (30% Young USA unemployment rate)
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Gombei424Canada
Well, we all know that when it comes to carte blanching all over the Gaza strips and Palestine this hoser Peres is probably even worse than bush, who was from the get-go the worst president ever and the reason that Vienezuelans (like my former student, who found me on Facebook!)learned enough English to follow bush's every misguided pronouncement on their country, which we ALL know he was obsessesd with, and show him just who is boss in Venezuela (hint:it wans't you, bushie boy!) and elect Hugo Chavez, who has heaps of charisma!, and some interesting ideas about government too.
Anyways, my many friends, this is ANOTHER prediction from Peres that he will regret making on a internet forum that I come to.
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sabiwabi
The #1 terrible thing the Iranian and Venezuelan leaders did was to criticize Israel for its war crimes. That automatically brands them as evil by the world's media and puppet governments. Perez is simply repeating the propaganda, its his way of saying "hey, look over there, don't look here (as we expand our illegal "settlements"). I wonder how much of what they say about Chavez and Ahmadinejad is true, probably very little.
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Helter_Skelter
If ever there was a great example of the Islamist-Socialist Alliance, it's Amadinejad and Chavez. Totally predictable that these two despots would find each other. And a great example of the Islamist-Nazi Alliance in Amadinejad and his good pal David Duke. Hopefully all these heroes of sabi will soon end up in the trash heap of history like their predecessors. Viva La Revolution!
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victimcrat
Anti-Israel / anti-American posters like sabiwabi and smithisjapan don't even attempt to discredit what is pretty clearly implied in Peres' observation about Chavez and Ahmadiinejad - that the defeated Marxist left has allied itself with the nutters and militants Islam also produces in such staggering numbers.
Very interesting...
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yabits
Well, Chavez was first elected in 1998. Not sure how much Venezuelans were against the then-governor of Texas.
He was relected in 2000 and again in 2006 (by a whopping majority). American corporatists like Bush (and his lickspittles) hate him because he wants to use Venezuela's vast resource wealth to raise the lives of ordinary people in his country -- aka nationalization. He is nowhere near the kinds of dictators that the U.S. has supported in the past -- mass killers like Pinochet and Rios Montt.
Yeah, some twits out there did remind us that a dictator can kill lots of his own people and the U.S. will smile on him. But it's very wrong when he won't make his country a whore for the U.S. -- it just sets a very bad example for the other countries of the region. What is really ludicrous is that statement that supporting the will of the Venezuelan people in free and fair elections is somehow "whoring" out the country.
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victimcrat
Peres' Israel is an economic wonder, providing jobs, hope, dignity and progress.
Theocratic Iran and backwards - looking socialist Venezuela, on the other hand, show all the tailspin signs that either lead the tyrants at the helm to further crack down (brave Hugo Chavez recently declared golf courses must be closed!) or foretell counter-revolutions. A group of iranians who participated in the '79 seizure of the US Embassy in Teheran, an act of war, recently declared they regret what it led to.
A report from the 2 Nov online edition of the Telegraph (UK)
Looks like Peres is correct.
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yabits
Chavez closing golf courses?!!
I'm liking the guy more and more.
A former company was in financial trouble and held a general meeting at its HQ. While at the airport, I noticed several of the regional executives had all brought their golf clubs with them. I knew the company was doomed from that point -- and, sure enough, it was bought up by a once-smaller competitor less than a year later.
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victimcrat
Pretty shocking stuff there. Why go on further exposing yourself to the cruel vicissitudes of the free market? What has kept you from moving to Venezuela?
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LIBERTAS
Translation: "There's something that makes American and Israeli life very complicated when these two guys just don't bow and grovel to us when we tell them to. After all, we want that oil. We're God's chosen people. How dare they not give it to us!"
Noticeably absent from JT reports is that Peres was greeted in South America by groups referring to him as Shimon Hitler, many of them Jewish people disenchanted with the nation's foreign and justice policies. And a recent flurry of truth assessments about Israel have emerged of late: This one: http://www.politicaltheatrics.net/?p=340 and this one on Britain's Channel 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POtk6G7q4Bw
Shimon Hitler may be joking around in Argentina, but soon he and his cohorts will face justice in the Hague. Mark my words. Then they can start on BuschCo.
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SuperLib
Why do you hate Chavez?
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WilliB
Helter Skelter:
And how ironic, that eiter of them would happily off the other one, if got powerful enough and didn´t the assistance any more. Because if they go beyond their shared hatred for the US and the Jews, the religionist islamists and the atheist bolsheviks really don´t have anything in common.
Like the Hitler-Stalin pact.... history repeating itself.
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bushlover
smithinjapan [and lest we forget, Chavez was put into power in direct response to the growing anti-American sentiment bush instilled... sorry, but true]
And please remember the sentiment that put Steven Harper into power as well.
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victimcrat
I feel bad that Iran and Venezuela might one day have to start inventing, innovating and even manufacturing, like Israel has been these last sixty years.
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