Louisiana JP's halt of interracial marriage sparks outrage

Saturday 17th October, 09:49 AM JST

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yabits at 09:40 PM JST - 18th October

I especially found the comment about his wife rather inappropriate.

If I made a comment about Mrs. Jindal personally, that would be inappropriate. My comment was about the choice of Mr. Jindal, and not the person he chose.

This is a person who wants to assimilate, but who also understands where the lines are drawn, and seems to respect the walls that the majority race has maintained (via folks like Bardwell) to keep people apart. It is not so much David Duke, as the many thousands of Republican supporters of Duke's ideas and candidacy.

Bobby Jindal marrying across the color line would have been as well received by those types as the union of Sammy Davis with Mae Britt. Or Terence McKay with Beth Humphrey.
kinniku at 10:37 PM JST - 18th October

With all due respect, your comment was both about Mr. and Mrs. Jindal and you seem to be suggesting the only reason she was 'picked' to be his bride was because of her color. That was inappropriate to both of them, particularly so as you seem to not know whether what you have suggested is true or not. While I completely agree with your comments about the racist named in this article and any racists who would share his opinions of racism, including Duke, I do not see any basis for your comments specifically about Mr. Jindal, who is a US born citizen, and as such find them quite unfair. You talk of him wanting to 'assimilate'. What are you basing this on? Anything concrete? Did he actually say this? Have you based any of your commentary specifically regarding Mr. Jindal based on any specific facts? It really does not seem like it. Mr. Jindal voiced his own outrage and it is mentioned clearly and plainly in this very article. It seems his attempt at 'assimilation' didn't stick as he plainly and clearly sees what a racist Bardell is.
yabits at 01:12 AM JST - 19th October

With all due respect, your comment was both about Mr. and Mrs. Jindal

If that is how you want to read it, that is your choice.

It really does not seem like it. Mr. Jindal voiced his own outrage and it is mentioned clearly and plainly in this very article. It seems his attempt at 'assimilation' didn't stick as he plainly and clearly sees what a racist Bardell is.

You appear to equate assimilation with whites as requiring acceptance of the most overt expressions of white supremacy. Most whites in America know how to couch those feelings under layers of denial such that we can erupt in outrage when a fellow white blows our cover. Jindal appears to have that act down pat.

I view Jindal as a climber who has few qualms about doing what it takes to change his image to gain the approval of the dominant group he is trying to curry favor with.
kinniku at 06:17 AM JST - 19th October

If that is how you want to read it, that is your choice.

That is the only way to read it. I wonder. Would you also say President Obama married a person of color merely so as not to appear too uppity? How do you think either he or his wife would feel about such a remark? I am sure they would both feel it was inappropriate. As it would be and as it was in your post. Particularly as you still have not shown any basis in reality for your posting it.

Jindal appears to have that act down pat.

You appear to have created your own fantasy in which Mr. Jindal acts and thinks as you would have him act and think. However, in all of your responses you have been completely unable to specifically back up anything you have written. That leads any reasonable person to the conclusion that you are just writing a story and that it has no basis in fact.

I view Jindal as a climber...smear, smear, slam, slam, insult, insult...

Again, I wonder how much you would say the same thing about President Obama? You have written a whole lot of 'opinion', but very little in the way of facts to back them up. Maybe you are reflecting on your own personal experience and projecting it on to this article and onto Mr. Jindal. I do not know. What I do know is that you have merely written what appears to be a fantasy with no basis in factual reality. Why should Mr. Jindal have to act the way you think he should act and not the way he has acted? Merely because he is a person of color? Again, that sounds like something Mr. Bardell might say...
yabits at 07:18 AM JST - 19th October

Would you also say President Obama married a person of color merely so as not to appear too uppity?

The differences between "Bobby" Jindal and Barack Obama in the way they regard their backgrounds are quite profound. Obama dabbled with "Barry" for awhile but realized that that was not him. The "uppity" remark was couched in sarcasm, as I previously stated, and if anyone wants to take it to seriously, they are barking up the wrong tree.

you are just writing a story and that it has no basis in fact

I am stating my opinions, formed on the basis of some comments from Jindal's relatives.

Why should Mr. Jindal have to act the way you think he should act and not the way he has acted? Merely because he is a person of color?

He can act any way he wants. Just as Michael Jackson did, who was also a "person of color." If he wants to ignore, as one of his cousins puts it, his Hindu-Indian roots, that's his choice. I am under no obligation to praise him for it.

If Louisiana had an Indian constituency the size of the African-American constituencies in many U.S. states, I don't believe Jindal would be doing much to de-emphasize his "Indian-ness," especially if he was trying to gain office as a Democrat.
kinniku at 07:43 AM JST - 19th October

The "uppity" remark was couched in sarcasm, as I previously stated, and if anyone wants to take it to seriously, they are barking up the wrong tree.

It is a tree you planted with your confusing remark:

"My sarcasm is equal to those who make the premise that a great many white Louisiana Republicans like Bardwell do not harbor race-supremacist feelings simply because they voted for Jindal."

Bardell's racist feelings and those like him are not 'sarcasm', they are racism plain and simple. So, maybe you are barking up the wrong tree.

He can act any way he wants.

However, it doesn't seem like you really feel that way. You think he should act a certain way or he is not being genuine. You think he is 'acting' white, whatever that means.

I don't believe Jindal would be doing much to de-emphasize his "Indian-ness

Again, why do you automatically assume he is de-emphasizing his Indian-ness? He is exactly the same person he was when he lost his election in 2003. He didn't change his skin color, or hadn't you noticed?

I am under no obligation to praise him for it.

You are also under no obligation to berate him for acting as he sees fit, especially when you seem to be judging his actions based solely on what his race is. Again, Bardell would seem to want to say similar things.

I am stating my opinions, formed on the basis of some comments from Jindal's relatives.

So, again, no facts. Thanks. That is what I thought. You have been unable to support the conclusions to which your opinions have led you, leading me to think your opinions and conclusions are way off base...
yabits at 08:28 AM JST - 19th October

especially when you seem to be judging his actions based solely on what his race is.

Not nearly right. I am commenting on how his own confrontation with his Indian background and religion appears to me.
kinniku at 08:40 AM JST - 19th October

Not nearly right.

This is one of the few times when I hope I am not nearly right.

I am commenting on how his own confrontation with his Indian background and religion appears to me.

The thing is you have shown no factual basis to suggest such a confrontation.
yabits at 11:02 AM JST - 19th October

thing is you have shown no factual basis to suggest such a confrontation.

It certainly has a factual basis based upon the observations of other members of the Indian community:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-2495845,prtpage-1.cms
jason6 at 11:17 AM JST - 19th October

i wonder why nobody used the word "racist" in any of the quotes?
kinniku at 11:36 AM JST - 19th October

It certainly has a factual basis based upon the observations of other members of the Indian community

Translation: You think the opinions of people other than the man himself are better for factually describing the thinking of Mr. Jindal himself? That is a pretty bad example of facts...You have not proved even one of your assertions here. You have merely provided an article filled with the same kind of innuendo that you have provided yourself. You do know what the word 'facts' means, don't you? I was not asking for opinion when I asked you these very specific questions:

How do you know Bardell voted for Gov. Jindal?

Your comment was both about Mr. and Mrs. Jindal and you seem to be suggesting the only reason she was 'picked' to be his bride was because of her color. That was inappropriate to both of them, particularly so as you seem to not know whether what you have suggested is true or not. Do you know it to be true for a fact?

You talk of him wanting to 'assimilate'. What are you basing this on? Anything concrete? Did he actually say this? Have you based any of your commentary specifically regarding Mr. Jindal based on any specific facts?

Again, why do you automatically assume he is de-emphasizing his Indian-ness? He is exactly the same person he was when he lost his election in 2003. He didn't change his skin color, or hadn't you noticed?

You keep providing opinion. However, you do not show any factual provable specific basis for your opinion. Let me suggest that a person is able to decide for themselves how much of their background, race, religion, or ethnicity plays in their lives. Again, I think it is strange to accuse Mr. Jindal of not being Indian enough or of running away from his heritage etc. People are not always running away from something. Sometimes they are heading to something else. You have shown no specific facts to show Mr. Jindal is not what he honestly represents himself to be.
yabits at 07:40 PM JST - 19th October

You think the opinions of people other than the man himself are better for factually describing the thinking of Mr. Jindal himself?

Oh, absolutely. That's why we check references for job applicants, and why agencies conduct background investigations before they grant clearances.

I found the reporting of Jindal's mangling of the name of his own brother to be quite telling. You might not consider that a specific fact, but it suffices for me.

comment was both about Mr. and Mrs. Jindal and you seem to be suggesting the only reason she was 'picked' to be his bride was because of her color.

I never said that color was the reason, but "kind." You appear not to know how marriage works in the Indian community. Bobby was and is a guy who rejected his name and his religion as he "headed for" a name and religion better suited to his personal aspirations and his adopted political views -- some of which are very anti-immigrant, which is ironic coming as they do from a son of immigrants.
kinniku at 09:23 PM JST - 19th October

Oh, absolutely. That's why we check references for job applicants, and why agencies conduct background investigations before they grant clearances.

Except, you did not do that. You went to an Indian newspaper that was complaining about an American who they said wasn't acting 'Indian' enough for them.

I found the reporting of Jindal's mangling of the name of his own brother to be quite telling. You might not consider that a specific fact, but it suffices for me.

Telling about what? He is an American citizen. There are lots of people who are born of immigrants and yet do not speak the language of their parents or speak the way their parents do. So what? He is not an Indian.

I never said that color was the reason, but "kind."

Yes, sorry. You said color when speaking of the man himself and said 'kind' when speaking of his wife. Yes, that is much better...not.

You appear not to know how marriage works in the Indian community.

You appear not to know how to read because Jindal converted religions when he was in high school. He was not a party to 'how marriage works in the Indian community'.

Bobby was and is a guy who rejected his name and his religion as he "headed for" a name and religion better suited to his personal aspirations and his adopted political views

So you say. However, I think it is just as it was written in the Indian newspaper you quoted, Mr. Jindal was too American for them and for you. You want him to dance the dance you think should be on his dance card merely because of who his parents are and where they come from. I maintain that you have no right to limit how someone can act or think just because of the background of their family. It is the kind of racism that Bardell seems to follow and I cannot agree with it.

some of which are very anti-immigrant, which is ironic coming as they do from a son of immigrants.

Well, I don't happen to agree with Mr. Jindal's views on most things as I have come to know them. However, I would never claim that he is 'Uncle Tomming' for votes as you have been claiming. You see, that would be racist.

BTW, you never managed to factually answer any of the questions about your previous posts. Might be better to think things through a bit more before slandering someone just because they don't act Indian enough for you.
tokyonice at 01:17 AM JST - 23rd October

Bardwell is an ass. Completely unfit for office. He should be sacked and fined. Additionally he should publicly ridiculed and humiliated, Just as he has humiliated so many happy couples.
rei307 at 10:48 AM JST - 23rd October

I cannot believed that He has been in office for 34 years and no one has spoken up about it.