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Man shot to death while being questioned in Boston bombing probe

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Gradually eroding the freedoms that we claim to be fighting and dying for. Real life is more and more mimicing the popular TV shows with gun toting CSI/NCIS/Hawaii 50 agents gunning down suspects at the drop of a hat.

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Sounds a bit gung-ho to me. Could they not have incapacitated him another way? If he indeed had a knife, which is unclear, then I guess better not to take chances, but still.

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Crazy if the FBI routinely allow people to have knives while they are signing a confession at midnight in their own homes admitting to a high profile triple murder and then kills the only witnesses to the said events. You couldn't get in the courthouse next to my place of work with a sewing kit, or kitchen fork.

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“Also by his own admission Todashev was recently a former mixed martial arts fighter,” the arresting deputy said in his report. “This skill puts his fighting ability way above that of a normal person.”

..so we shot him.

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There's no reason to shoot him unless he's being a threat. I'm sure they wanted to get information from him.

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He had a knife! Why is Japan Today not reporting this? The suspect came at the agents and tried to kill them.

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Based on his violent reaction, I would seem that he was a supporter of the terrorist bombers.

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What's that story again ? They have no business being in this guy's house or anyone's house.

His attorney, Alain Rivas, didn’t immediately respond to a call for comment Wednesday.

They were supposed to call his attorney before going to shoot him. Well, if investigating had been the goal.

The suspect came at the agents and tried to kill them.

You say it as if he went to the office of FBI with a knife in order to kill people. The reality is the FBI can storm into any house, shoot anyone dead and say "they were thought to be armed". It's a reasonable assumption since so many people own guns in the US. They can shoot whoever they want anywhere and anytime. Like they had shot a disabled guy that was not walking toward the good gate in an airport (which is something that never happened to you ?) and later said "he looked like a terrorists on his way to put a bomb".

“This skill puts his fighting ability way above that of a normal person.”

Logical. Like : he was wearing shoes = he was trying to run away.

There's no reason to shoot him

Talion law. You know "eye for an eye" ? That was the old formula. Now that's "the 2 eyes for one eye, the whole mouth for one tooth". That's becoming obvious that the US are adopting the ways of the Mossad : One of "our guys" gets killed, let's kill 10 taken at random from the other team. After 9/11, Iraq was chosen for revenge. This time, it's Chechen residents in the US ?

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Gradually eroding the freedoms that we claim to be fighting and dying for. Real life is more and more mimicing the popular TV shows with gun toting CSI/NCIS/Hawaii 50 agents gunning down suspects at the drop of a hat.

If the guy turned violent, then that's hardly "at the drop of a hat".

Crazy if the FBI routinely allow people to have knives while they are signing a confession at midnight in their own homes admitting to a high profile triple murder and then kills the only witnesses to the said events. You couldn't get in the courthouse next to my place of work with a sewing kit, or kitchen fork.

It's still unclear exactly what action the suspect took which caused the law enforcement officers to open fire. One person said a knife was involved while others said that the man went for an officer's gun. Regardless, the guy wasn't confessing to a triple-murder. They were just asking about his conversation with one of the bombers. Also, what does the courthouse next to your place of work have to do with things? They were questioning the guy at his house. Are you implying that law enforcement should strip the house of any possible weapons before talking with someone at their home?

He had a knife! Why is Japan Today not reporting this? The suspect came at the agents and tried to kill them.

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He had a knife! Why is Japan Today not reporting this? The suspect came at the agents and tried to kill them.

One person reported a knife, others reported something else. That "fact" is still very much in doubt.

What's that story again ? They have no business being in this guy's house or anyone's house.

LOL. So law enforcement should only interview possible witnesses/suspects on the street? Sorry to burst your bubble, but sometimes they DO have "business" at people's homes.

They were supposed to call his attorney before going to shoot him. Well, if investigating had been the goal.

You DO understand that it was the newspaper that called the attorney for a comment, not the police, right? The police have NO requirement to call attorneys prior to talking to people. That's something the person being questioned has to do.

You say it as if he went to the office of FBI with a knife in order to kill people.

Not sure who "You" is, but no, that's not being said at all. The FBI was questioning Ibragim Todashev in Todashev's home when something happened that caused one agent to be injured and Todashev to be fatally shot. Whether Todashev grabbed a knife or not is still up in the air.

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Sorry to burst your bubble, but sometimes they DO have "business" at people's homes.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the US are still supposed to have laws, and common sense. LOL.

Are you implying that law enforcement should strip the house of any possible weapons before talking with someone at their home?

If common sense is applied. Why would they put themselves in an environment they can't control, particularly when they claim the guy is reputed dangerous ? When they go with a warrant to search, to arrest people or to solve some case of violence, they have larger teams, wearing protective equipment, not entering all together, etc. So if the guy was a potential terrorist, you'd think they had the dogs that sniff explosives entering first... If they wanted to search the house already, that is.

The police have NO requirement to call attorneys prior to talking to people.

In case that happens to you, I inform you that they do in the US. They'll read you the "Miranda" and even if it's unclear to you, that means "we have to provide you an attorney if you wish, meanwhile you may not answer". OK, that's not to "chat" as anyone can ring at people's door to try to sell them girl scout cookies, so yes, even cops can pass and say "hi, wanna talk ?", but people may not open the door at all. If authorities want to interrogate suspects, "against their will" , they have to find them that attorney. Obviously the guy was not willing so a more formal interrogation would have made sense. Well, that's in case laws apply. But my point is the FBI works outside the frame of laws.

So law enforcement should only interview possible witnesses/suspects on the street?

As it's defined by laws. The cases in which they should enter a private property are limited for obvious reasons. One is assuring the investigator's safety. They have the options of waiting for people in the street as you said, asking them to get out of their houses/offices, asking them to present themselves or follow them to a police station for a longer conversation, and they'll check them for guns at the entrance there. They do that routinely, like 99% of the times. I have seen US cops investigating really many times but I have never seen one putting a foot inside a house. But well, they were the normal police and they wouldn't have gotten away with shooting dead a person during a simple conversation, knife or not. In this case, first suspect found dead before he could talk. Tamerlan shot dead before he could talk. Dzhokhar shot in the throat and mute before he could talk, this guy shot before he could talk. The FBI is getting a series of "oops we did it again...."

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If they do not have a warrant you do not need to let them in your house. You do not need to answer any of their questions either.

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