OssanULTRA: Your lack of knowledge on how things work here says it all. Sure, he was travelling on a buddy pass, and those are given out with the knowledge that they will be used, with the people wishing to use them having every right to do so. What's more, the flight attendant, if sitting in the jump seat, was also getting a free ride (she certainly wasn't working). Flight attendants who are off and want to go somewhere can get on flights permitting that there are empty seats, and if there is only one attendant wishing for a free ride and all the seats are full, they can fly in the jump seat. So, not only was the company reneging on the buddy ticket seat, they were doing so in favour of giving a flight attendant a free ride (and while some companies require their attendants to be a LITTLE for flights on their off time, it's a pittance).
This guy's got an air-tight case (to go with his not at all air-tight seat), but the likely recompense is only going to be a few free 'buddy tickets'.
"OssanULTRA: Your lack of knowledge on how things work here says it all. Sure, he was travelling on a buddy pass, and those are given out with the knowledge that they will be used, with the people wishing to use them having every right to do so. What's more, the flight attendant, if sitting in the jump seat, was also getting a free ride (she certainly wasn't working). Flight attendants who are off and want to go somewhere can get on flights permitting that there are empty seats, and if there is only one attendant wishing for a free ride and all the seats are full, they can fly in the jump seat. So, not only was the company reneging on the buddy ticket seat, they were doing so in favour of giving a flight attendant a free ride (and while some companies require their attendants to be a LITTLE for flights on their off time, it's a pittance).
This guy's got an air-tight case (to go with his not at all air-tight seat), but the likely recompense is only going to be a few free 'buddy tickets'.
Smithinapan your ignorance is overwhelming. Non employees are not permitted by FAA regulations to sit in crew jump seats. If the employee couldn't sit there due to the seat being broken, ie; uncomfortable then even if the pilot was willing to violate the rules, the free-flyer couldn't have sat there anyway.
The article indicates that the jump seat became unusable during the flight. In other words, the airline is not guilty of having let this
free flyer onboard with insufficient seats. It became insufficient during the flight. The option was to break the rule on employee only seating or have this free flyer sit in the bathroom during turbulence.
Not telling this guy to sit during turbulence would have exposed the airline to greater liability, not to mentiom possible injury to the free-flyer.
Whether the airline employee was worrking or not, flying free or not is
irrelevant to the issue. This case is hardly air-tight, and can easily been seen as a correct action during flight with the "put in the toilet" spin that his lawers put together.
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Altria at 04:25 PM JST - 14th May
On the bright side, no queuing for the bogs, and unlimited access to the food cart (or was that JAL?)
blvtzpk at 04:33 PM JST - 14th May
I was forced to do this as well, but it was due to the airline's food.
Do I have a case?
Sarge at 04:37 PM JST - 14th May
Heck, why's the guy complaining? That toilet seat is more comfortable than any economy class seat, plus you don't have to wait to go to the toilet!
Nessie at 05:04 PM JST - 14th May
You have a case, Blvtzpk. A case of the runs.
Taka313 at 07:09 PM JST - 14th May
Was his original seat in coach? If so, the toilet was an upgrade.
Taka
rtrhead1 at 08:34 PM JST - 14th May
the seats in JetBlue don't look too bad. The toilet seat though, not so good...
OssanULTRA at 09:28 PM JST - 14th May
So this guy was traveling for free on this "buddy voucher"? I hope the judge throws out his case.
Terrikus at 10:09 PM JST - 14th May
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So this guy was traveling for free on this "buddy voucher"? I hope the judge throws out his case."
Uhm, no? Free or not, its no excuse to send a passenger to sit on a toilet for a portion of the flight. Thats ridiculous.
smithinjapan at 10:13 PM JST - 14th May
OssanULTRA: Your lack of knowledge on how things work here says it all. Sure, he was travelling on a buddy pass, and those are given out with the knowledge that they will be used, with the people wishing to use them having every right to do so. What's more, the flight attendant, if sitting in the jump seat, was also getting a free ride (she certainly wasn't working). Flight attendants who are off and want to go somewhere can get on flights permitting that there are empty seats, and if there is only one attendant wishing for a free ride and all the seats are full, they can fly in the jump seat. So, not only was the company reneging on the buddy ticket seat, they were doing so in favour of giving a flight attendant a free ride (and while some companies require their attendants to be a LITTLE for flights on their off time, it's a pittance).
This guy's got an air-tight case (to go with his not at all air-tight seat), but the likely recompense is only going to be a few free 'buddy tickets'.
usaexpat at 11:09 PM JST - 14th May
I guess that's service on discount carriers. Pretty funny if you ask me but I think the captain may be parking it in the lav from now on.
GrouchyGaijin at 11:17 PM JST - 14th May
The "loo" in Continental is better than the Business Class in JetBlue, trust me!
Madverts at 11:20 PM JST - 14th May
Whatever the outcome, no one deserves 2 million bucks for being made to sit on the toilet for an hour or so.
Heh. He should have kicked up a stink.
PuffinMuffin at 11:36 PM JST - 14th May
Jetblue, never heard of it. Seems like they have crappy jumpseats, not to mention service, never mind buddy passes.
OssanULTRA at 12:27 AM JST - 15th May
"OssanULTRA: Your lack of knowledge on how things work here says it all. Sure, he was travelling on a buddy pass, and those are given out with the knowledge that they will be used, with the people wishing to use them having every right to do so. What's more, the flight attendant, if sitting in the jump seat, was also getting a free ride (she certainly wasn't working). Flight attendants who are off and want to go somewhere can get on flights permitting that there are empty seats, and if there is only one attendant wishing for a free ride and all the seats are full, they can fly in the jump seat. So, not only was the company reneging on the buddy ticket seat, they were doing so in favour of giving a flight attendant a free ride (and while some companies require their attendants to be a LITTLE for flights on their off time, it's a pittance).
This guy's got an air-tight case (to go with his not at all air-tight seat), but the likely recompense is only going to be a few free 'buddy tickets'.
Smithinapan your ignorance is overwhelming. Non employees are not permitted by FAA regulations to sit in crew jump seats. If the employee couldn't sit there due to the seat being broken, ie; uncomfortable then even if the pilot was willing to violate the rules, the free-flyer couldn't have sat there anyway.
The article indicates that the jump seat became unusable during the flight. In other words, the airline is not guilty of having let this free flyer onboard with insufficient seats. It became insufficient during the flight. The option was to break the rule on employee only seating or have this free flyer sit in the bathroom during turbulence. Not telling this guy to sit during turbulence would have exposed the airline to greater liability, not to mentiom possible injury to the free-flyer. Whether the airline employee was worrking or not, flying free or not is irrelevant to the issue. This case is hardly air-tight, and can easily been seen as a correct action during flight with the "put in the toilet" spin that his lawers put together.
Badsey at 05:48 AM JST - 15th May
case solved: all toilet seats need seatbelts.
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