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McCain calls Obama insensitive to poor people

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    Badsey

    I guess it's easy to criticize when you fly around in your wife's private jet.

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    SuperLib

    I don't think McCain's message is really going to be heard by a lot of people....

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    skipthesong

    insensitive to poor people" Its been a known fact for years that Democratic lead social programs hurt lower income working families and one issue not being talked about is that usually these two live side by side, not always peacefully, but still live amongst each other.

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    capone

    yeah well you could say that about all politicians

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    dat5h

    "president of Iran, who Sen. Obama wants to sit down and negotiate with face to face" What's wrong with negotiation? Is he just trying to hate-monger? As a politician, he should know that speaking with someone face-to-face is the best way to get them to listen. Luckily, this was all said on Fox News, which is only watched by his supporters.

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    adaydream

    The federal tax is only about $.18 per gal. That amout will be raised by big oil in just a couple of weeks and you'll not even notice it being dropped.

    Put some controls on Wall Street and Money Street and Petroleum Avenue and Greed Boulevard.

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    Helter_Skelter

    What's wrong with negotiation?

    Where exactly do you start the negotiations with a fundamentalist Islamic leader who hosts a holocaust-denial conference and invites neo-Nazi David Duke as a keynote speaker? Just curious.

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    skipthesong

    Put some controls on Wall Street and Money Street and Petroleum Avenue and Greed Boulevard." That could be a problem.. I can understand putting caps on prices, such as oil but really going as far as preventing people from making money is a very big problem... kind of like telling a poor person who just won a lottery that he can't have it.

    Where exactly do you start the negotiations with a fundamentalist Islamic leader who hosts a holocaust-denial conference and invites neo-Nazi David Duke as a keynote speaker?" Very good point. We didn't try talking to Hitler, as far as I know, so what should we talk to one of his disciples?

    Internally, politicians should start trying to talk to hate groups.. let's see whose the first at doing that.

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    DenshaDeGO

    McCain said he wanted the votes of all Americans.

    He ain't gettin mine

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    SushiSake3

    Helter "Where exactly do you start the negotiations with a fundamentalist Islamic leader who hosts a holocaust-denial conference and invites neo-Nazi David Duke as a keynote speaker? Just curious."

    Would you rather just bomb or attack them?

    Where - exactly - is that going to get you besides nowhere?

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    skipthesong

    sushi: wouldn't you have just bombed the Nazis? Tell us where they are not like the Nazis and then we can all tell McC not to bomb them. Besides, we does he state he is going to bomb them? I know he did say something to the effect that if have to would, but have not head will..

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    Sarge

    Densha - "He ain't gettin' mine"

    The Democrat nominee ain't gettin' mine.

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    skipthesong

    "He ain't gettin' mine" If anyone was really serious about the state of the country, you would vote for none of these three..

    vote for skip or skip the vote!

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    Proffessor

    What???? Guess whose talking...Ahhhh Ahhhh Ahhhhh! My goodness what does Johnny boy know about economics? Plight of the poor in the land of plenty to mention just a few?

    Good Gracious Lord have mercy.

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    skipthesong

    what does Johnny boy know about economics? Perhaps not much, and Hillary no way for sure. But what about Obama, perhaps he does understand the nation's poor but I think he looks at it only as black poor. The Hispanic and White poor population have been left out to dry for decades and no one is going to help them.

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    Taka313

    Interesting, coming from a guy who supported the Bear Stearns bail out but whose opinion on the housing crisis is, “it is not the duty of government to bail out and reward those who act irresponsibly, whether they are big banks or small borrowers.” Yeah, I'm sure that many, newly-made poor people who were once home owners were feeling the love over that one.

    Next thing you know, Sen. McCain will be claiming Sen. Obama relies on Joe Lieberman to tell him what he believes and what he really means at speaking engagements.

    Taka

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    skipthesong

    Taka, you do realize that if a bank of that size failed, the remifications would be much worse than you think? He is a situation, and I am not a Mcain supporter at all, that was more or less a catch 22.

    You do understand that the subprime loan problem was a problem to begin with? Take a look at who lenders were forced to give loans to and you would probably not want to help them out. As for the crises itself, the amount of homes bought on subprime vice more realistic/conventional lending is about 6.7%, yet these people constitute more than half of all foreclosures.

    Bank of America was forced to provide these loans to illegal aliens (if I were one, I'd take that money too), convicts, borrows with inc readably bad credit and histories of not paying back. Yes, let's bail them out. Sacrifice a bank where you keep your money, do your IRA, CD's, what not and make sure those borrowers keep their homes.. Great thinking

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    DXXJP

    McCains economic policy for the poor. Join the military go to Iraq, there is a bonus were giving out now, and I hope we can keep you there for a 100 years.

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    Taka313

    Skip, I do realize the ramifications. However, can you not see where his stance could easily be seen by others as "insensitive to the poor?" But, fine, I'll concede that point, it's but one. Allow me to give you a better example of how Sen. McCain's criticism is pure political pap.

    This is from an article that explains why Sen. McCain shouldn't be pointing fingers and how Sen. Obama, if he so chooses, could say that Sen. McCain is "insensitive to poor people."

    Here are 10 reasons why the McCain gas tax proposal would be bad for the economy and poor public policy:

    1. It would eliminate almost billion that would be invested in road, bridge and public transit investments that benefit the public and American businesses-- billion in highway improvements; billion in transit investments. This would trigger a series of negative economic consequences.

    Not that this would affect the extremely rich, who fly from place to place in their wife's private jet.

    1. State and local governments, already cutting back in many instances due to the economic downturn, will decrease their capital investments in highways and transit. This, in turn, will decrease business opportunities for private sector design and construction firms already hit by the recession, which will then reduce demand for related materials, supplies, equipment--and employment.

    *Decreasing business opportunities for construction firms takes jobs away from poorer people, would you not agree? *

    1. More than 310,000 Americans whose jobs are currently supported by federal investments in highways and transit will have their employment placed at risk.

    Nothing says, I'm concerned like rolling the dice with people's jobs. Perhaps they are only rich people's jobs that would be at risk.

    1. The Highway Trust Fund's Highway Account, already facing a first-ever deficit, due in part to the economic downturn, would see that deficit grow to more than 0.8 billion by September 2009. This will trigger additional cutbacks in state and local investments in highways and transit infrastructure improvements in 2009 and beyond.

    Less money spent on the infrastructure used by poor people.

    1. Even if the federal excises were reduced, the federal government could not guarantee that gas and diesel prices would drop commensurately at the pump. In fact, research shows that when the states of Illinois and Indiana temporarily suspended their sales tax on motor fuel purchases in 2001 in response to escalating retail prices:

    -- the impact on consumer pocketbooks was minimal; and

    -- state transportation improvement programs were shortchanged by tens of millions of dollars.

    See above.

    1. The U.S. economy would lose an estimated 3 billion in long-term economic benefits that would be generated by billion in highway and transit investments--a net loss of 4 billion. The U.S. Department of Transportation has reported that every in highway infrastructure investments generates .60 in economic benefits.

    2. Cutting federal investments in highway and transit improvements would exacerbate traffic congestion across the nation--causing motorists and truckers to spend even more on motor fuel. Research by the Texas Transportation Institute shows traffic congestion is now responsible for about three billion gallons of wasted motor fuel in the U.S. each year.

    But again, the truly rich don't "do" traffic jams. They fly or they catch a movie in the back of the limo. Traffic? Cest la vie.

    1. Cutting federal investments in highway and transit improvements would affect traffic safety. Nearly 43,000 Americans died last year in motor vehicle crashes. Poor road conditions and outdated alignments were a contributing factor in an estimated one-third of them. Highway crashes cost American society 30 billion--20 per person--each year. Traffic accidents are the leading cause of death of Americans 6 to 28 years of age and result in more permanently disabling injuries than any other type of accident.

    I'll bet you $100 bucks that more poorer people drive cars without air bags than do rich.

    1. Reducing or eliminating the federal motor fuels tax would do nothing to increase the supply of motor fuels--a major reason why motor fuel retail prices are up.

    2. What would happen when the federal gas tax suspension ends on Labor Day? Would Americans experience--in one day--an 18.4 cent per gallon spike in the retail price of motor fuel?

    How many poor people can afford a 18.4 cent per gallon spike?

    http://www.buildingmarketnews.com/2008/04/ten-reasons-why.html

    Sen. McCain is playing petty politics with this issue. It was very easy for me to do likewise to Sen. McCain. It was dirty politics for me to do so and it was dirty politics for Sen. McCain to say what he did.

    Taka

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    jeancolmar

    Sensitive to the poor McCain no doubt has a plan for them. The draft.

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    Sarge

    DXXJP ( 08:08 ) - That's not McCain's policy for the poor. Try again.

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    Sarge

    jeancolmar ( 08:56 ) - That's not McCain's plan for the poor. Try again.

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    adaydream

    So what has John McCain talked about for the lower incomes? He's not offered anything substantial. He's talked about keeping the tax cuts that help the ultra rich, and like others have posted above he's got the military for those others.

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    adaydream

    skipthesong - So allowing gas to completely get out of control, pricewise is okay. Allowing gas to get to prices that makes it's impossible for the lower incomes workers is alright.

    I went to an investment meeting a couple of weeks ago and one speaker kept saying, "People will continue to live up to their lifestyle, period. They will continue to spend."

    It was like this speaker saying, To hell with price increases, make your profits!!!!!, to hell with the little guys.

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    DXXJP

    Sarge

    Oh great, and wise please tell us what he has for the poor. List them up for us please.

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    WhiteHawk

    Is any career politician truly sensitive to the genuine (not perceived) needs of poor people?

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    redacted

    "Sensitive to the poor McCain no doubt has a plan for them. The draft."

    Proof that Ms Colmar knows nothing about America:

    It's "liberals" like Congressman Charlie Rangel who want to reinstate the draft. http://edition.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/01/07/rangel.draft/

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    adaydream

    I'd reinstate the draft.

    No sense in the poor having all the fun in Iraq.

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    WhiteHawk

    A draft, daydream? That means all the anti-war, peace-at-any-price zealots will have to fight for their right to protest wars (if only those under Republican presidents) too.

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    Helter_Skelter

    Is any career politician truly sensitive to the genuine (not perceived) needs of poor people?

    Certainly not the democrats. They need to maintain the lower class. They need that poor vote to keep themselves in power.

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    WhiteHawk

    True, Helter Skelter. They claim to "look out" for the poor, but in reality all they've done is make the poor more comfortable staying at the bottom of the ladder. They haven't done jack to get people off of government dependency. But then the government doesn't do that for you anyway. It takes applying yourself and working your own way out of that class level. Oddly enough, that's what the "cold/cruel/evil/heartless" conservatives have been telling the poor in America for generations.

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    Everton2

    MaCain and the word poor just don't go together. hahaha. This is the guy who is visibly uncomfortable around black people. This is the guy who voted against Martin Luther King's holiday and now he has seen the light. I am maze how quickly they reform themselves on the way to the white house.

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    adaydream

    We wouldn't be in Iraq if there was a draft. That would mean geoege's friends might have to send their kid off and get them back in a box.

    Remember rumpsfeld trying to get this super military that was quick and deadly. Didn't work.

    Now with more requirements for military fighters, instead of the draft...we just enlist the criminals. Problem solved.

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    redacted

    "This is the guy who is visibly uncomfortable around black people. "

    As compared to who - Hillary?

    If you read his "autobiography" there's a good argument in saying Obama was uncomfortable around "black people."

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    WhiteHawk

    adaydream:

    We wouldn't be in Iraq if there was a draft.

    Yes we would. Having the draft didn't stop us from going into Korea or Vietnam, did it? Saddam would've still been Saddam, U.S. draft or no.

    redacted:

    If you read his "autobiography" there's a good argument in saying Obama was uncomfortable around "black people."

    In fact, Obama seemed uncomfortable with himself.

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