McClellan: Bush should have fired Rove over CIA leak

Monday 02nd June, 06:32 AM JST

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Madverts at 09:04 PM JST - 2nd June

super - why in the world would the people who dis-like Bush, and those who have continually disapproved of his disasterous tenure actually miss him when he's gone?

I've heard of backwards logic, and in all fairness I've seen a lot of it from those that still support Bush Co - especially towards the fight against terrorism, but still.....
yabits at 09:21 PM JST - 2nd June

why in the world would the people who dis-like Bush, and those who have continually disapproved of his disasterous tenure actually miss him when he's gone?

It's called "projection." Some people have such a need for those they hate that it's like a security blanket for them. And they assume that normal people feel just like they do. Bush has been an abject failure as a leader and I won't miss him one bit when he's gone.
adaydream at 10:09 PM JST - 2nd June

That Pillsbury Doughboy McClellan is a traitor!

He's not the one who started the lies. He only repeated the lies that dick cheney and doug feith created. george bush reinforced the lies and Scott McClellan just repeated what he was told. He's not the traitor, george bush, dick cheney, condi rice and doug feith are the liars. Scott repeated what he was told.

It's just horrible that george bush is so much a liar and a traitor against the American people. george bush and his band of cohorts created the lies and Scott McClellan just repeated the very lies. < :-)
usaexpat at 12:07 AM JST - 3rd June

Most definitely should have, but honestly Bush needed Rove's support so they threw Libby under the bus instead. I will say it again my whole problem with this adminsitration is that they have weakened America. I am all for a war if it has benefits to the wealth or security of America. Iraq never passed the smell test in my book. The neo-cons believed their own rhetoric and thought they could create a stable democracy in Iraq and that it would spread. This was never about WMD or anything else that was used to sell the war to the public. The problem that Bush had was Ameircans would't have supported a war for his little democracy experiment alone so other things were made up to get the public to go along.
SuperLib at 12:14 AM JST - 3rd June

What's the point of this article and the responses?
Badsey at 01:54 AM JST - 3rd June

I believe this book constitutes a felony under the Patriot Act. McClellan should be locked up in G-Mo with the other terrorists.
adaydream at 02:11 AM JST - 3rd June

The point is, george bush and dick cheney are the real terrorists of this country. they have lied, fabricated and deceived the American People. they used their position to advance their personal agenda. And someone in the Whitehouse was willing to tell us the truth.

I don't see any debate about the truth, I see more debate that the republicans are more upset that their great leader was outed as the liar and cheater towards this country then they want to admit.

Explain Badsey. Patriot Act? Is it a Patriot Act crime to tell the truth? Are you telling us that it's illegal to push the truth to the surface? < :-)
Wolfpack at 06:50 AM JST - 3rd June

Bush should have fired Richard Armitage over the CIA leak - because he is the culprit.
Betzee at 09:35 AM JST - 3rd June

He anticipated the fierce reaction he has received from critics, including former Sen Bob Dole, who called McClellan a “miserable creature” motivated by greed.

Oh, so it's all right for him to make a fast buck hawking Viagra but McClellan is motivated by "greed." Hypocrite!
Taka313 at 05:15 PM JST - 3rd June

Betzee, I like to look at it like this: Bob Dole is right. mcclellan is a "miserable creature." He wouldn't have worked for the bush white house if he wasn't. mcclellan's attempt to cash in on his dishonesty is just a neo-con being a neo-con. ALL of their ilk are miserable creatures who would do anything this side of enlisting in the military for financial gain. What's funny is that there is ZERO self-reflection on the behalf of the right. Outrage, denial and blame a plenty. Self-reflection: 0.

I must admit, it is a lot more fun seeing scottie being outed by his own however. Watching neo-cons eat their own, for me, is kind of like watching MMA. I know that no real good will come from it but it definitely has a twisted appeal. Bon appetite!

Taka
Nessie at 06:37 PM JST - 3rd June

Betzee, I like to look at it like this: Bob Dole is right. mcclellan is a "miserable creature."

Hey, lay of McClellan, Taka! All he wantses is his precious.
Jahdog at 03:03 PM JST - 4th June

Ditto that, Taka313. Liked your 3rd June post, usaexpat. As someone who abhors what W/Cheney/Rummy/neocons have wrought, I came the closest to having sympathy for the administration when listening to McClellan's interview with BillO: http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/06/03/oreilly-goes-ballistic-on-scott-mcclellan/

McClellan: Let's look at the record. There's the question of how the intelligence was used to make the case for preemptive invasion. It was packaged to make the case seem more grave than it was.

The nuke threat: high-confidence and medium/low- intelligence was cherry-picked and stove-piped. With the nuke intelligence there was not high confidence.

Colin Powell's UN presentation re anthrax did not justify saying that Iraq constituted a grave and gathering threat to the US.

Do you think we were about to be attacked by Iraq? It may have been a justifiable mistake to invade, and can be so argued on other grounds, but do you think it was a mistake? It was not necessary.

The central theme of McClellan's book is that the permanent campaign culture of Washington DC must change. That culture was a main cause of the Iraq war.

There were many dissenters within the CIA and State, Dept. (not to mention poeple like Gen. Shinseki, who was forced out for advising the necessary minimum number of troops to carry out the postwar reconstruction of Iraq), who said "We don't believe this allows us to make a judgment" whether or not Saddam's reconstituting his nuke program (these people were shut out of the process and eased out of their jobs). The false question of whether or not Saddam had nukes put it over the top to sell the war, make the case.

The mainstream media did not do its job (ie, journalism).

Good people got caught up in the campaign culture of DC. The specific purpose of the White House Iraq Group was to sell the war--it was a marketing arm of the White House.

W had an overriding motivation to transform the ME (convinced that he was a Christian God's warrior agent, on Earth for that purpose--a fervent hope to which he clings). That, too, became part of the propaganda when it was packaged and distributed through the media (ie, pics of a "haloed" W in a church, along with the "cowboy" images), overstated, repeatedly hammered into people's brains through mainstream media.

On Valerie Plame: Rove denied "telling anyone about her," a distinction without a difference, as he did SAY her name to Matt Cooper and others in a context that revealed her secret status as a CIA agent. He revealed her identity.

W said in SOTU address that Saddam sent emissaries to Niger to acquire yellowcake uranium ("the British gov't has learned that Saddam recently sought significant quantities of uranium...") but the CIA didn't stand by that because it was based on forged documents (reiterated publicly by Joe Wilson) had no evidence that he had actually acquired any. (Saddam even told his own generals that he had nukes when he didn't)

The CIA told the White House three months before SOTU not to use that claim in any of W's speeches. Yet it was used in the SOTU address to sell the war to enough Americans to give W the political clout to launch it.
WhiteHawk at 10:21 PM JST - 4th June

adaydream:

The point is, george bush and dick cheney are the real terrorists of this country. they have lied, fabricated and deceived the American People. they used their position to advance their personal agenda.

Well if those are your qualifications, then name a country's leader that isn't a terrorist. And just what did Bush and Cheney say that was different from what Clinton, Kennedy, et al, said?
Blue_Tiger at 11:55 PM JST - 6th June

The problem is, Rove didn't instigate the leak. Robert Novakl claims he leaked the story, and others say it was Richard Armitage. McClellan is merely out for his 15 minutes....

Enjoy the dinero, Scotty-boy!
GW at 12:35 PM JST - 8th June

yes McClellen cud be considered a traitor to Bush, and Bush is a traitor tot he american people, I can see why McClellen is pissed off for being used, but really anyone who takes that job of speaking to the press has to know that sometime after day １they are going to lie to the press for the administration.

As others have said lets wait for the others who will be trying to wash the s#$t off themselves as this titanic disaster of an adminstration comes to an end. Thank god the founding fathers of the US put in that 2term limit can you imagine the damage if the dummies of america cud put this shrub in for 4 more years!