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Mexican police find 12 mutilated bodies next to school

World Sep. 30, 2008 - 12:56PM JST ( 13 )

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CavemanLawyerSep. 30, 2008 - 03:18PM JST

“I’m not a traitor but I don’t like to be with in the company of cowards.”

And nobody likes to be in the company of a self centered murderous thug with no compassion amigo, so do us all a favor...

There are some seriously messed up people living in Mexico. I wonder if they have any idea how they made their country look today. --Cirroc
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elbudamexicanoSep. 30, 2008 - 03:19PM JST

This news makes me sick to my stomach. It is very easy to just blame Mexicans, Colombians etc...for all of this violence "south of the border" but let us not forget, many "north of the border" with all of their dollars and pleanty of drug addicts to Mexican heroine and Colombian cocaine have a lot of responsibility for all of this narco-violence. In Mexico, gun selling is actually extremely ILLEGAL but thanks to the USA, you can get any kind of weapon for the right price to be smuggled in to Mexico.
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CavemanLawyerSep. 30, 2008 - 03:29PM JST

but let us not forget, many "north of the border" with all of their dollars and pleanty of drug addicts to Mexican heroine and Colombian cocaine have a lot of responsibility for all of this narco-violence.

What does selling drugs have to do with torturing and mutilating people and dumping them near a school? I am not absolving the rest of North Americans, but there is no excuse for the complete lack of taste or pride this crime shows. So they get a lot of drug money from the U.S. and Canada, so what? These guys are an embarrassment to any self respecting gangster anywhere, even if there are some in Mexico.

But if we are going to put some blame on say, the United States, lets do it for banning drugs rather than regulate. The war on drugs plays into the hands of the thugs that perpetrated this pathetic and embarrassing crime. --Cirroc
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SuperLibSep. 30, 2008 - 05:06PM JST

The drug lords need a new PR campaign. If they start using words like "jihad" and blaming the West then crimes like these would get a much more sympathetic response from some.
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buddha4brainsSep. 30, 2008 - 05:07PM JST

I wonder if the druggies in Canada & America will lay down their pipes, joints, needles and bongs and think of the cost - the externalities - of their "escape" from reality...

... didn't think so.

Poor bastards.
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NessieSep. 30, 2008 - 05:09PM JST

wonder if the druggies in Canada & America will lay down their pipes, joints, needles and bongs and think of the cost - the externalities - of their "escape" from reality...

Don't know about the needles, but with respect to the bongs, most of the weed in the US and Canada is domestic, so it doesn't really relate to this.
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buddha4brainsSep. 30, 2008 - 05:16PM JST

Thanks Nessie but let's not get distracted... the point is there are costs to be paid to getting stoned, but most users would be too selfish to notice let alone make the connection between these deaths and their use and abuse of drugs.
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CavemanLawyerSep. 30, 2008 - 07:36PM JST

the point is there are costs to be paid to getting stoned, but most users would be too selfish to notice let alone make the connection between these deaths and their use and abuse of drugs.

Oh yeah? Well there are costs to be paid to paying one's taxes, but most payers would be too selfish to notice let alone make the connection between the needless deaths and invasion of Iraq to their lack of civil disobedience.

Pretty much the same logic. Users of drugs never asked that drugs be the realm of the underworld. I am sure they would all be quite content if they could get what they want over the counter. --Cirroc
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NessieSep. 30, 2008 - 09:04PM JST

Thanks Nessie but let's not get distracted... the point is there are costs to be paid to getting stoned, but most users would be too selfish to notice let alone make the connection between these deaths and their use and abuse of drugs.

The connection between these deaths and the abuse and/or use of weed in the US and Canada is tenuous if not non-exitent.
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borschtSep. 30, 2008 - 10:44PM JST

Modeditors,

More said at least three of the victims were teenagers.

I believe the man's name is Moreno.

These vicious attacks might make an American stoner think twice about buying South American weed (but I doubt it), but losing his house to the mortgage crisis might cause him to cut back on his weed altogether (but I doubt that, too.) And while lots of weed might be coming up from down south, it is more profitable for the cartels to smuggle in heroin, crack, cocaine, etc.

Did anyone notice they aren't fighting over drugs but the routes they smuggle the drugs into the US?
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adaydreamOct. 01, 2008 - 12:36AM JST

I wonder when the government will legalize marijuana, which is less destructive then alcohol to the body, cheaper and people just mellow out on it.

No, let's keep it illegal so beer and spirit sales stay high. The sellers of alcohol have a monolopy on mind altering drugs.

People are going to get marijuana one way or the other. Buy it, grow it, ship it in or any other way it takes.

It's going to be used and all these people who justy say: will lay down their pipes, joints, needles and bongs and think of the cost - the externalities - of their "escape" from reality...

Go on back to your fifth of scotch or whatever. You're allowed to escape through alcohol, why not allow me a little smoke?

It's going to happen. Whether the drugs come in through Mexico, Florida, Canada or dropped by air, they will get in. You'd have many less deaths, less smuggling and a new and big way to raise taxes.

You wouldn't have these drug lords wielding such power and destruction if the United States thought this out. < :-)
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SuperLibOct. 01, 2008 - 03:17AM JST

buddha: Thanks Nessie but let's not get distracted... the point is there are costs to be paid to getting stoned, but most users would be too selfish to notice let alone make the connection between these deaths and their use and abuse of drugs.

The number of deaths from illegal drugs pales in comparison to the number of deaths from legal drugs, for example alcohol. I don't drink so it's easy to see the horrors of alcohol.

By the way, do you drink? If so, then I have a lecture waiting here for you. Something about how your desire to drink kills tens of thousands of people a year. Let me know when you're ready.
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MeanRingoOct. 01, 2008 - 05:29AM JST

I think something similar to this occurred in the 1930s. I think they called it prohibition. Lots of gangsters shooting up a lot of places in an attempt to win the right to supply various speak easies and private bars. The cops were not really able to stop it. People wanted their booze and would take great steps to get it. There was a lot of blood shed. The solution? Regulate the stuff. Take the illicitness out of the product and you rob the criminals of their power. Simple as that.