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N Ireland riots after police arrest 3 over killings

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    AlbertGTrotter

    I hope they'Ve got the right geezers. These radical Catholics is trying to ruin the peace process and bring back the troubles.

    Lock them up for life as deterrent

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    RegVarney

    I hope so too Mr Trotter. I remember those days of bomb, bomb ,bomb. Northern Ireland was in chaos , mass murders the lot.

    Britain was bombed and nobody felt safe, let's hope peace continues.

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    Badsey

    I draw the line when they start attacking pizza delivery men.

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    RegVarney

    Badsey: This are no time for jokes. These catholic IRA supporters are threatening to bring the NI back to the bad old days of mass murders and bombings.

    Send in the Paras and some harderned ex Iraq and Afghanistan troops to sort the evil thugs out quickly before this spreads.

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    grafton

    RegVarney at 08:19 AM JST - 15th March

    Mass murder?

    Are you sure that is what you meant to say? Or is that just the line given to you by your script writer & not your responsibility?

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    RegVarney

    grafton: Maybe youare too young to remember the terror we faced from the IRA. My sister Olive was too scared to travel up west. Tourism in London went down 40% and Northern Ireland was a divided bomb site.

    We must hope these areests prevent these blooming swines from kicking it all off again.

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    OnTheRecord

    I agree with RegVarney and AlbertGTrotter, great posts guys. Terrorism must not be tolerated. Quell the violence with full force if need be, so the area is back to peacefull times.

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    grafton

    AlbertGTrotter RegVarney

    I lived in London during the bombing campaign of the 1970s & I would also think that I am in fact somewhat older than you. What I find insulting & by your own definition “divvy” is a person that comments on are really serious issues using ridiculous comic names & personifications. The issue in NI are serious, people are being killed again & the rioters are on the streets again & I find it an insult to the people of that country that you can only comment as a two dimensional past TV character.

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    RegVarney

    I was in London during the 70's young man, and i know what happened and what might happen again if we don't smash the IRA.

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    Goals0

    Only problem is when you throw people in jail who didn't do the things you said they did. And get people to lie for your 'evidence' and guarantee we get into a vicious cycle.

    I hope they get the guys who did the murders.

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    rollonarte

    Both countries, both peoples, addicted to violence.

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    northlondon

    Both countries, both peoples, addicted to violence.

    When you say 'both countries', I take it you mean the Catholic and the Protestant terrorists, not the British ? No, you mean the British don't you. Like the other posters earlier, I was a teenager growing up and going to school in London in the seventies and I remember the IRA murderers bombing my city. I have been close to two IRA terrorist bombs in my life. One of them closer than I would have wanted, at the end of the street where I was working. I remember the IRA murderers blowing up a 12 year old kid in Warrington under the name of 'freedom'. I also remember the Irish (Irish that is, not Northern Irish) community in North London donating to the IRA donation box every weekend to support those very same terrorists who blew-up the 12 year old (rest in peace).

    Us British may well have a chequered past (India, Persia, Palestine etc), but we played by the rules in Northern Ireland. Soldiers being shot at by snipers. Soldiers having rocks and abuse hurled at them by Northern Irish kids. Good soldiers being murdered by both the Catholics and the Protestants. And every time these terrorists got away with life sentences because they claimed it was political (what a joke). Personally I say leave them (the Catholics and the Protestants) to it and let them murder each other until nobody is left. That way we won't lose our own people anymore. But you can't do that can you ?

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    timorborder

    Send in the Paras? Are you nuts? The last time the paras went into sort out the catholics you ended up with Bloody Sunday (1972?). Moreover, things started to spiral out of control afterwards. Putting young squaddies back on the streets of Northern Island is not an intelligent response at the current time. Moreover, Iraq/Afghanistan veteran or not, squaddies don't like standing around on street corners waiting to be shot. Trust me, it is not fun at all.

    Moreover, you have to realize that the people who carried out these crimes are a fringe sect of xenophobes who lack a real sense of support. PIRA want them dead just as much as the loyalists do.

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    northlondon

    timorborder, we had no choice but to put the Army on the streets of Northern Ireland. It is part of the UK and if we had left the Catholics and the Protestants to it (which would be my own personal suggestion), then the British would be accused of turning a blind eye to the genocide that would have followed. Our Army had to do the dirty work.

    Personally, we should have taken a much harder line in Northern Ireland and left the likes of the Parachute Regiment to crack down on the terrorists early on. But we became too concerned with diplomacy and human rights concerns. Our policy should have been to engage the terrorists. You see, the Parachute Regiment didn't take too kindly to being shot at by snipers in housing estates and their philosophy was not to pussyfoot with that situation.

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    timorborder

    I actually agree that sending in the British Army back in 1969 was the right solution at that time. However, I don't go along with the argument that any of the Pare battalions or other units (the chaps from Hereford and the Det) be sent in just yet to sort out the IRA. Any such action could actually make things worse. Let's just leave it to the police for the time being.

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    grafton

    northlondon at 02:24 PM JST - 15th March

    If any city in the world is home it is London & I lived there until my late 20s which is the time of the 1970s IRA bombing campaign, I also had the misfortune to be in Manchester the day the IRA removed the centre of the city. Which is the reason I was taking such exception to the comic characterisations of AlbertGTrotter RegVarney (& the missing for the moment Alf Garnet). The issue really is too serious & too personal for childish games. I agree with many British people that the way the NI “troubles were resolved was wrong, killers walked away free & some even became politicians. Putting soldiers back into the province is not the answer (not yet anyway) & if they should be sent back in they shouldn’t be sent in with their hands tied behind their backs by human rights laws that do nothing but protect the terrorist & make the soldiers target that can’t fight back. Re-introducing the death sentence for murder & terrorism is a dangerous thing to do, between mistakes & corrupt evidence innocent people do get executed, but it would have resolved today’s problems, there would be fewer extremists around to start the shooting again. Maybe the treat of life in prison (meaning life, not 20 years or less) in a British main land prison would work. No IRA man would like that idea of “retirement”. These three that have been arrested over the last few days were arrested very quickly, which might well suggest that the old IRA that are now in government helped the police, not of course that we will ever be told such a thing. So maybe waiting a little to see just where things go from here might be best. If the old IRA are nervous of losing what they have managed to get their hands on they might just resolve this current issue on their own, it’s not as if they have any scruples about killing to get what they want so they might just kill a few of their own to calm things down. So, let them fight among themselves & see where that goes.

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    ChrisBiggins

    Let us hope the right people have been caught and these beastly men are locked up, i would recommend for life. Life in London was awfull for years with terrible deaths and injuries, constant bomb scares, it was chaos.

    I hope we don't go back to those ghastly times, and the wicked men who commited these crimes and their cohorts are punished.

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    Suzu1

    The murderers justified the killing of Domino pizza deliverymen because they were "colloborating with the enemy". That says it all about what moronic, psycopathic these IRA thugs are....

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    realist

    Typical IRA thugs, who murdered and maimed people in Northern Ireland, the rest of the Uk and also in continental Europe for almost 4 decades. They never learn - their violence failed to bring about a "united Ireland" and this latest violence will also fail. They are discredited - a bunch of ignorant murdering scum, nothing more, nothing less. Oh - and they are sectarian, too - they love to kill Protestants and anyone who is British.

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    ca1ic0cat

    There is no justification for these murders. The people responsible are criminals no better than any other scum. There is a peaceful process in place that is going to allow a slow, reasonable evolution of the situation in N. Ireland. There is no reason to start killing people. The "war" is over. And good riddance.

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    cuddles2009

    Lives lost again for something stupid cause

    Do humans never learn?

    Those responsible should be held accountable and thats it.

    Move on in the PEACE process.

    I really hope more level headed people prevail.

    Cheers

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    ChrisBiggins

    I think it is the catholic community that needs to learn.

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