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SushiSake3
It's funny when a chickenhawk serial draft dodger like Dick Cheney gets his a*se whumped by a someone who, unlike the former Veep, actually had the guts to go fight for his country. :-)
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Alphaape
sushisake3, Gen Jones did do his part when he was required and I accept that since I too have spent over 20 years in the service of my country (USA).
But I think you need to compare position to position. Yes Cheney did not serve, but neither has Biden or for that matter Obama. Bush may have been in the Texas National Guard as a pilot who did not see any combat, but at least had served in some military capacity and even though he didn't see combat, there was a chance of something to go wrong. If you don't believe me, just do a search if you will about the recent helo crash that just occured in Hawaii when an Army helo went down on a training mission killing the two occupants.
I'll even say that Gore has at least served as a private in Vietnam, better than Clinton. But based on your statements, the only person who wasn't a draft doger and had actual guts was McCain, more so than the community organizer.
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SushiSake3
Alphaape - why slam Obama for being a community organizer?
The skills he picked up help him pull of the biggest election win in 50 years.
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jonnyboy
i wonder why the US is so obsessed with having "militarily experienced" leaders. is the suggestion that this would make them more careful/thoughtful about sending the country to war? recent evidence seems to quite clearly contradict this. the president is a civilian leader. he is, in fact, not supposed to be able to send the country to war without the consent of congress. or does it have something to do with the fact that the lion's share of the US budget is funnelled to the pentagon through his office? perhaps they prefer to have someone sympathetic shovelling that lucre their way
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Alphaape
sushisake3, not a "slam" per se on community organizer, since the community that Obama was organizing is still in pretty bad shape. Check out the murder rates in Chicago and the education rates in the communities he helped organized. My point was that since you had put such a rant on Cheney as far as his qualifications, then I was just bringing up Obama's.
I do agree he did pick up some skills, like avoiding answering direct questions, becoming a "sophist" politican (look up that word), did help him get to where he is. Funny, I seem to remember that when "W" was elected, they were saying that he was just a business man (a failed one at that). So I guess that is why America is in the shape that it is in today. But, along those lines like I said earlier look at the community Obama was organizing, and tell me are they better off now than when he was "organizing" them.
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USARonin
Is this a joke article?
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Madverts
Mr 8% is irrelevant. Who cares what mud he slings.
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teleprompter
"Polls" are important in Europe, where they are one of many devices used to tell the sheeple what to think, but in America they mean little.
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Madverts
Heh, that isn't even a poor defense of an 8% approval rating.
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RomeoRamenII
For a moment I thought this site had closed down and I was redirected to The Onion.
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yabits
Marine general (ret.) James L. Jones is no dove. Not by a long shot. Those on the left criticized Obama for picking him for his current post, and refer to him as "Obama's hawk."
He has been friends with John McCain for years, and appeared with the senator at least once on the campaign trail last year.
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yabits
Adding to previous:
I guess since General Jones (ret.) is deviating from the party line, the conservatives can start calling him a liar and dupe, and attempt to "swift boat" him. I sure hope so.
Working as the military assistant to former Defense Secretary (as wells as former Republican senator from Maine, William Cohen, put it in an interview back in January: "Jones knew where all the bodies are buried."
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VOR
Political appointees are political appointees. They will say anything their bosses desire. While I agree no administration can guarantee 100% security, its only a matter of opinion to say we are safer or less safer under Obama. Even if an attack on US soil were to occur, the current administration can only be judged on how vigilant they were to prevent it and what effect if any, the dismantling of security measures undertaken by the previous administration contributed to any new attacks.
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adaydream
I was impressed when Barack Obama selected Gen. Jones as his National Security Advisor. He selected someone with creditability and experience.
Gen. Jones has a background and experience to know what he's talking about. dick cheney was the designed, planner and lie creator for george bush's disasterous attacking of Iraq.
I think that Gen. Jones has much more creditability on this subject then dick cheney. < :-)
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DXXJP
I posted this before, even Ridge says the same thing, But I know the GOP starts to question each others loyalty when someone strays from the rhetoric.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=aF2IBw3gSLOg&refer=home
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yabits
Let the ever-cynical Republicans speak for their own appointees and bosses. We are well aware that this certainly was the method and practice under the Bush regime. (Just ask Scott McClellan.)
Obama is clearly the type of boss who desires his appointees to speak their own mind, rather than regurgitate the party line.
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adaydream
Maybe republican appointees will say anything that their leaders desire to the point of even fire a bunch of attorneys because they refuse to agree with the administration.
I remember hearing that Barack Obama welcomes other ideas and view points on subjects. He likes to hear different ideas and the background for those ideas. He's not one looking for a room full of "Yes Men." < :-)
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VOR
The posts by daydream and yabits are so typical of people caught up in the Obama fog. Anybody who doesn't look at what their government officials say or do with jaundiced eyes are living in their own partisan la la land.
Time will tell if the current administration has made the nation safer or not but if the past is any indicator of the future, appeasement is not the answer.
Political correctness destroyed the US intelligence network during the 90's leaving the US vulnerable to the 911 attacks. If this administration fails to learn from these mistakes, the American people, with the exception of the most ardent partisans will hold Obama and his political appointees responsible.
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yabits
This must be the fog of hatred and cynicism so many hardline conservatives are caught up in. We read in the very next sentence that everthing should be viewed with "jaundiced eyes."
No. Things should be viewed clearly. A certain amount of skeptism is healthy, but going so far as to view everything through jaundiced eyes is definitely UNhealthy. Unhealthy people can not keep the US safe.
This is certainly how things appear through totally jaundiced eyes. The US was being attacked (embassy bombings, Khobar Towers, USS Cole) and the Republicans kept the nation focused on Monica Lewinski and "wag the dog." When they took power, the Republican leadership refused the FBI's request to inspect the computer of the one hijacker they caught a month before 9/11.
Had Gore been president, I firmly believe the Twin Towers would still be standing. Thousands of Americans would not have lost their lives. Thank goodness, the US is finally now safer under President Obama.
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VOR
lets hope so despite your unsound reasoning.
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adaydream
VOR I guess your favorite son, george bush, was someone to be admired during and after his administration. I recall your support sounding no less shrill them ours does now.
I guess we'll just have to wait 7 1/2 more years and find out won't we. Until that time... rah! < :-)
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VOR
I am happy to see you at least admitting to your shrillness.
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SezWho2
I think we Americans have many devices to tell us what to think. Rush Limbaugh, for example, would be one. The NYT would be another. But if what you are saying is that Americans don't care what other people think, I believe many Europeans would agree.
It's a shame that General Jones has to waste his time refuting the spat fulminations of Cheney. However, he is addressing issues that will be raised at some point anyway. And the comparison between the two men could not be more stark--Jones with a lifetime of service to his country and Cheney with a lifetime of service to himself.
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Sarge
I miss Condi.
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SezWho2
Yes, Condi would have moved heaven and earth. Except she didn't.
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