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  westurn at 01:11 PM JST - 21st July

  Wrong and right sezwho...

  "Human beings are written in a history of war and the wars are always conducted in someone's name."

  The history of war is very clear. Wars are fought for two reasons, economic and religious ! Whether it be in the name of Allah, Mohammad, or Christ. Or oil or territory or natural resources... those be the facts. So spare me your shaking fist and stammering rhetoric... yer embarrassing yerself, again !

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  westurn at 01:15 PM JST - 21st July

  And Repoftexas:

  "I think you are confusing Islamic fundamentalism with mainstream Islam. There is a difference..."

  No there is no difference, especially when one sits back and allows the other to kill, maim, and slaughter in it's name with nary any opposition... which is what we witnessed immediately after 9/11. Not a single "en masse" protest in the streets of any Islamic nation ! No sirree... they all just sat on their thumbs in silent approval. And like millions of other Americans the message was received pretty loud and clear. Now you can deny this reality all you want republicoftexas, but you are in the minority here !

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  SezWho2 at 01:21 PM JST - 21st July

  westurn,

  The only one who has embarrassed himself here is yourself for failing to demonstrate the relevance of your comment.

  Wars are fought for a variety of reasons: economic, empire extension, nationalism, religion, ideology and so on. The point I am making is that every warrior has a reason for making war.

  Your claim is that war is inevitable because the Koran demands it. Personally, I find that simplistic, naive and not rooted in any particularly astute understanding of Islam. My claim is that if war is inevitable, it is inevitable because it is rooted in the human psyche--as the thousands of wars which comprise the backbone of history will verify.

  The Koran does not demand war. People do.

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  westurn at 01:32 PM JST - 21st July

  "empire extension" ???

  Economic !

  "ideology"

  Religious !

  "nationalism"

  For example ???

  "Your claim is that war is inevitable because the Koran demands it. Personally, I find that simplistic, naive and not rooted in any particularly astute understanding of Islam"

  So enlighten us !

  "The Koran does not demand war. People do."

  So I will find no reference to conflict or battle in the Koran or any other religious book ??? And war is inevitable ???

  Now who is talking nonsense here ?

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  adaydream at 01:36 PM JST - 21st July

  Right...

  Because it's the Middle East and Islamic traditions require it ! Pick up your Koran, read it, and deal with it ! Thousands of years of war for the sake of Mohammed!

  This makes sense to start wars and fight mindless battles and lose men and women because of something we read.

  Now if you had said that the Taliban attacked us and we retaliated because of an unjustified attack on us. We have to finish this war that was started by to penalize an aggressive act.

  But no we should fight because of something in a book. < :-)

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  RepublicofTexas at 01:47 PM JST - 21st July

  No there is no difference, especially when one sits back and allows the other to kill, maim, and slaughter in it's name with nary any opposition

  Every religion has its fundamentalists, but not every religious person is a fundamentalist. Your comment proves you no nothing of Islam. It's unfortunate that b/c of people like you the US will most likely never have stable/friendly relations with the nations of the Middle East. Also there are many Muslims who are angry that terrorists and radicals have used the name of Islam to kill innocents. Most Muslims did not just sit back and enjoy watching the twin towers fall. The only reason so many Muslims have become antagonistic to the US is b/c bigots like you preach hatred toward all Islam. You my "friend" are in the minority.

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  adaydream at 02:16 PM JST - 21st July

  What we have here is a failure to communicate.

  Then when the Afghan's screw up you get comments like: **We are fighting a difficult war against an insurgency that put women and children in the front line. ** when this was an accident between friendlies.

  This makes it sound as if you really didn't read the story. < :-)

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  Madverts at 04:42 PM JST - 21st July

  Jeezus, they've got to get their acts together. How many times have we seen these headlines recently?

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  JoeBigs at 04:55 PM JST - 21st July

  Tell me something how do police office mistake coalition troops for Taliban fighters? Why did the police continue to fire on the troops even when the troops told them who they were?

  Lack of communication? Yeah right, in that country you dont know who is your friend and who is your enemy.....

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  westurn at 06:24 PM JST - 21st July

  adaydream wrote...

  "But no we should fight because of something in a book. < :-)"

  Seems yer starting to get it ! The Koran, The Bible, Hitlers Mein Kampf ! All pieces of literature exhalting the necessity for conflict that led hundreds of thousands of people to act violently against their fellow man !

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  westurn at 06:30 PM JST - 21st July

  republicoftexas still in such a lather that the nonsensical continues to pour over the keyboard !

  "Every religion has its fundamentalists, but not every religious person is a fundamentalist."

  Wow, on the surface that appears pretty deep. But the reality is when fundamentalists cause destruction and chaos and your so-called nonfundamentalists sit back and do nothing ... well the signs of approval are deafening ! If muslims wants to control their religion then they better take up arms against these fundamentalists ! I have yet to see this !

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  skipthesong at 08:49 PM JST - 21st July

  aday: "But no we should fight because of something in a book. " But many do and have done so for centuries and will continue for centuries to come...

  Denying that is naive. Least you not forget, within a certain book, killing of someone is not only tolerated it is actually encoueraged.

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  SezWho2 at 09:57 PM JST - 21st July

  westurn,

  Islam generally admonishes its followers to save lives and not to take them. Of course you will find references to war--as you will in the old testament law which Christ did not come to change. War is not the essence of Islam.

  I can't help you with the inevitability question. It seems to me that the inevitability of war based on the Koran is your position, not mine.

  Moderator: Stay on topic please.

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  adaydream at 11:11 PM JST - 21st July

  Maybe if they used US military intellegence..........

  Sorry, I forgot.

  They have. < :-)

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  adaydream at 04:25 AM JST - 22nd July

  Western you state that: Seems yer starting to get it ! The Koran, The Bible, Hitlers Mein Kampf ! All pieces of literature exhalting the necessity for conflict that led hundreds of thousands of people to act violently against their fellow man !

  We should go to war because the Koran, the Bible, Hitler's Mein Kampf (not a religious teaching) exhalting the necessity for conflict

  I've never read the Koran, but I've read the Bible. You're saying that we should have wars all over because the Bible says there is a necessity for conflict.

  I think if thatr's what the Bible says I'll change religions. It tells of wars, it's tells of conflict, it also tells to turn the other cheek. Maybe you need to reread the Bible. There's a lot more than war in the Bible. < :-)

  Moderator: Back on topic please.

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