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Nazi war criminal Seifert dead at 86 in Italy

World Nov. 07, 2010 - 04:33AM JST ( 12 )

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goodDonkeyNov. 07, 2010 - 08:50AM JST

Such malevolent deeds by the time he was 20.
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IvanCoughalotNov. 07, 2010 - 12:27PM JST

I hope it hurt.
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asahi_manNov. 07, 2010 - 02:29PM JST

He should not have been allowed to live this long, execution should have taken place straight after his trial!!!
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MolenirNov. 08, 2010 - 02:45AM JST

Its Europe man. You could be Hitler, and they still wouldn't have the guts to execute you. Rape, murder, atrocities, there is no crime worthy of death according to them. The only way, is if you get lucky, and the cops make a mistake and "accidentally" kill the perp while trying to arrest them.
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MadvertsNov. 08, 2010 - 03:48AM JST

He did spend 50 Years in Canada but don't let that derail your rant about Europeansn. Heh, and il Duce might be disagree....
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MolenirNov. 08, 2010 - 07:45AM JST

Yet, Hitler, like other conservatives, had what it took to execute lots of people.

Come now, Hitler was definitely not a conservative. He did have a lot in common with the socialists though. Hey, you're a socialist aren't you yabits? Hehe...

Out of curiosity, when are the lib-nazis going to make conservatism a crime worthy of death? Any idea? Just wondering when I will need to make my forced conversion.

Now to get back on topic... Good Riddance. The world is a better place today without this man in it.
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yabitsNov. 08, 2010 - 11:26AM JST

Out of curiosity, when are the lib-nazis going to make conservatism a crime worthy of death?

You've already proclaimed, correctly, that libs are opposed to the death penalty. You said that "no crime was worthy of death."

Conservatives, on the other hand, support it. As your quote above also indicates, they are a bundle of contradictions.
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MolenirNov. 08, 2010 - 01:28PM JST

You've already proclaimed, correctly, that libs are opposed to the death penalty. You said that "no crime was worthy of death."

Actually, I didn't proclaim that. Nor is it true. There is opposition to the death penalty from both libs and conservatives, as well as people who support it in both camps. Myself I support it, but I have more then a few conservative friends who don't. This is not a contradiction. Its simply a different topic. Conservatism has nothing to do with the death penalty. The same way that racism had nothing to do with the Tea Party. Its just a made up connection, by people who are desperate to find some way to score points.

And we are veering way off topic now yabits. So no more from me in this thread. As interesting as the discussion might be.
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yabitsNov. 09, 2010 - 01:28AM JST

as well as people who support it in both camps.

I know of none who are truly liberal who support it. Certainly the European liberals who kept Seifert in prison until his death did not support it.

As you correctly pointed out, his crimes were heinous but yet the Italians followed their liberal laws and did not execute him. As for conservatism having nothing to do with capital punishment, that is a complete contradiction and falsehood that flies in the face of every conservative accusation against liberals being "soft on criminals."

You made the accusation yourself when you said that Seifert could have been much much worse and still the liberal Europeans wouldn't have executed him.
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MolenirNov. 09, 2010 - 07:19AM JST

Ok, said I wasn't going to comment here, but Yabits, you are putting words in my mouth. Words I neither said, nor believe. You are the one saying liberal Europeans, not me. As I said before, liberalism and conservatism have nothing to do with the death penalty. Do I really need proof of this statement? Look how many people support the Death Penalty. Even in places like New York, and California. Bastions of liberalism. Liberals support the death penalty. Theres just no getting around this fact. In Europe, a lot of people likewise support the death penalty, and condemn the lack of it in their countries.
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yabitsNov. 09, 2010 - 08:18AM JST

Its Europe man. You could be Hitler, and they still wouldn't have the guts to execute you. Rape, murder, atrocities, there is no crime worthy of death according to them.

Europe = "they" = "them." Yes, in Europe, there are a number of people who endorse the death penalty. Since Italy banned the death penalty in 1948, and most other countries have signed the Charter of Fundamental Rights (permanently banning capital punishment), the only ones who call for a return of the death penalty are fringes on the far right wing.
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MolenirNov. 10, 2010 - 05:04AM JST

yabits, I don't know why you are so desperate to cast this as a right-left issue. Its not. There are lots of people you would say are libs, who support the death penalty. And lots you would say are conservative who don't. And its not just in the states, its in Europe as well. Your desperation to cast this in these terms says more about you then anything else.