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  • KitsuneYoukai at 11:46 PM JST - 26th September

    Great!!! Our legislative process is working like it should. For 7 billion dollars of tax payer money you better believe I want Congress to think of all the options and argue it out until a consensus is reached. I in no way want them to panic and go in there and sign a piece of paper in 1 day. This is not good at all. Too many questions to be be answered. Ask any financial analyst and they will tell you it was not a good deal. Complete government oversight of industry is not the answer. I think the ones involved in this mess in Wall Street should be punished with no high level compensation but not those who have been doing good business, why? because it all comes back to bite the consumer (us) and workers (us) in the ass. In addition, the consumer should be protected and as it is now it is not the case. Not ot mention we need a way to make that money back and not to buy "all" bad loans. So Congress, go at and take the time you need America will be OK!!!

  • adaydream at 03:05 AM JST - 27th September

    So Sarge, your saying that the market's controls that are in place right now are adequate and this melt down of the market could have been avoided with less controls?

    Help me understand what you're saying.

    The deregulation that McCain has helped push through, in his many years of congressional experience, helped the markets how? And John McCain's ideas of (what ideas) will help how? And can John McCain come up with a though of his own with out deferring to others?

    Going to watch the debates tonight Sarge. I'm popping popcorn and getting a 6 pack. I think I'm going be entertained. < :-)

  • taniwha at 10:11 AM JST - 27th September

    Hey, so who can't count on JT?

    A number of posters seem to think the bailout is 7 billion US dollars. That would still be a huge amount of money, I know, but what you need to do is multiply 7 by 100 to get the figure the Senate is talking of pouring into Wall Street.

    So that's US$700 billion NOT 7 billion, okay? Good. So now we can get back to the discussion. Thank you. Sheesh!

  • Nippon5 at 04:05 PM JST - 27th September

    yabits---- 中 sometimes the middle is more real then the extreme left or right, I dont consider third hand information from a man who is so far from center a reliable and accurate source, sorry its my belief.

    If you believe him as non bias information then you should believe Fox news is the same Non Bais information...

    Personally I think these two have made America look worst then the other idiot they are trying to replace...and all the nose in butt followers of one side or the other are proving that point...

    Sorry I as an American feel so embarresed to have either of these men running for the position of President and the way they have lied and mislead the people of America.. BOTH OF THEM!!!!!!

  • USARonin at 04:20 PM JST - 27th September

    Nippon, this is another election where I feel I gotta vote against the guy who'd do the greatest damage.

    I gotta vote McCain-Palin.

    I'm not a member of any political party and I can't see myself ever bein' a member of a political party.

    Bein' largely conservative, it's only natural that the Republicans will end up with most, if not all, of my votes.

    Conservatives don't vote liberal and liberals don't vote conservative.

  • Nippon5 at 04:28 PM JST - 27th September

    Conservative= you wait until the garbage is completly full before you throw it out, you drive slow and steady to save gas, you dont buy new gum because the old gum you have still chews?

    Liberal= you give 40% tips because its just money, You always throw parties with more food then is possible to eat, You drive like a NASCAR racer, you accept everyone and anyone no matter who they are?

    Using other terms doesnt change the fact your sitting on an edge... One side or the other, try to come more to the 65% of us that are in the middle and think this he said she said BS is getting old. Thats why Jesse the Body got elected as Gov in Minnesota people got tired of 30% or so of the people telling the rest of us we are wrong..

  • USARonin at 04:31 PM JST - 27th September

    Nippon, so if you're not goin' to vote Obama, and you're not goin' to vote McCain, then who are you votin' for.

    And most people in that 65% would identify themselves as more conservative than liberal or vice-versa.

    Who ya votin' for?

  • Nippon5 at 04:39 PM JST - 27th September

    Im digging Ronald back up and writing him in....

    Wish Ross was running!!!!!

    Sorry my vote is a private thing I dont even tell my wife... At this time I can tell you the third party is looking better then these two...

  • USARonin at 04:48 PM JST - 27th September

    Usually when someone says they're fed up with both Democrats and Republicans, and that same person does love their country, then it usually means they want to cast a Libertarian vote.

    At this late stage of the game, a vote for other than a Republican or Democrat is a vote someone willingly threw away.

    In my state, a person who is not the voter's employer or union official may accompany the voter into the booth to help them vote. I will be such a person in November. In this case, I will be casting at least two votes for my guy.

    sweet

  • Nippon5 at 04:59 PM JST - 27th September

    Hrmm if I vote for someone other then the two people on the main parties Im throwing away my vote? ごみ ですか

    well then at this time I guess in your opinion of a democracy I am throwing away my vote。 As a democracy I have the right to vote for who I feel will do the best job, and just like with BUSH I wont vote for these guys, Scary part was if McCain would of asked Hillary to be VP I would of voted that team in a minute, but I dont like either canidate as they are today..

    Ive been able to vote a long time now and Ive never voted based on a party or an extreme view.

  • USARonin at 05:12 PM JST - 27th September

    Nippon, are you askin' me if you're "trashin' your vote" if you vote for someone other than for one of the two candidates who can reasonably win "at this late state of the game (as I said)"?

    Hai, gomi desu. Mochiron.

    Of course, you have every right to vote for whomever on the ballet in a matter of personal pride. You can write in "Pat Paulsen" as a write-in vote as some folks still do (the dude's been dead like twenty-somethin' years) 'cause they never like the choices either.

    I would never suggest an American citizen doesn't have the right to vote for whoever they want... lessin' of course they're a convicted felon or the like.

    Still, a wasted vote is a wasted vote. I'm sure I'm not the first to suggest this to you.

    It's your vote; it belongs to you. No argument here.

  • Nippon5 at 05:29 PM JST - 27th September

    is it a wasted vote if they vote for the man who doesnt win out of the two parties?

    Or is it only if they dont vote for the big two guys?

    Or is it wasted if you vote for someone who the person saying "its a wasted vote" isnt voting for?

    No vote is wasted, its a vote or an Answer to the question of who you find best suited for the position.

  • USARonin at 05:36 PM JST - 27th September

    Confusicious say:

    "An unrealistic vote is a a wasted vote."

    Yes, some votes are absolutely and knowingly wasted in some vain attempt to make a statement.

  • Nippon5 at 05:54 PM JST - 27th September

    Ok if thats your belief its your belief, but I believe everyone has a voice and they all are equal, and no vote is wasted...usually a political party uses that to scare a vote from a person.. Im hard to scare I only vote for those who should lead not those who think they should lead.

    Enough said on anyones voting, a vote is a vote..

  • USARonin at 06:10 PM JST - 27th September

    Nippon, I'm not tryin' to scare anyone.

    I'm bein' completely realistic. Some votes are completely wasted, but that's the voter's right.

    You mentioned Perot. That was a guy I respected because, for one, he spent tons of his own money to pay for an operation to rescue Americans. I came close to votin' for him.

    But then Perot began to go a little nutty.

    He was a Third Party candidate who it seemed sure to me could've beaten the Democrats and Republicans. Americans were goin' nuts (in a positive way) for Perot. People were re-energized. And then he started goin' nuts (in a negative way) himself.

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