No end in sight to Hong Kong protests after talks

Good luck to the people of Hong Kong who are standing up for the democratic freedom to elect their own leader. Good luck to the people of Hong Kong who are protesting against China meddling yet again in the internal affairs of Hong Kong's electoral system despite repeated international promises to the contrary.

The world is sick and tired of Chinese interference with its neigbors, with its despicable situation of the human rights of its own people and its constant daily lies about its own actions that even children are capable of seeing. Since the cancerous Mao, China has continued to develop a completely dishonest, immoral, cruel and useless system of governance. It is despised throughout the world in every country by every single freedom supporting individual. The people of Hong Kong must be applauded for humiliating the fat in Beijing and standing up for what is right. As history has shown countless times, China is eventually doomed to fail. It knows it and is desperately clinging on. The clock is ticking.

mataka, Hong Kong is part of China and it enjoys the current system because China allows it to have. Do not think that China has no right to govern the affairs of Hong Kong. China did not even break the Basic Laws of Hong Kong and no righteous country in the world is blaming China. Some Hong Kong people think that they are “exceptional” and ignore the impact on the rest of the country. They dream of democratic freedom which they never had and they will never have due to the disparity of the rich and poor. Money is everything in Hong Kong so votes can be easily bought and there are dirty monies everywhere. Poor governance of Hong Kong will drag down the rest of the country. China understands that to have democratic freedom takes time and step by step is the best way. As history has shown countless times, there is beginning and end to every empire, last time China has it for a thousand years so we can expect a thousand years or more this time.

The Chinese middle class are the only real hope for full democracy across China. Too bad they don't see any of the protests in Hong Kong in the state-run media.

Sadly, I think the HK students are about 40 yrs too early to have any effect, but democracy will come, eventually.

I don't see how China can change anything different and still save face. Direct elections just isn't part of the current plans for anyone in China. More outrage must happen in more places first.

@flowers

If you look at the history, Honk Kong was not properly democratic under the British, and the Chief Executive was elected by a select committee, just the same as the current proposal. But the problem is that China is relentlessly hollowing out any structure that could offer any avenue for an acceptable civil society in Hong Kong. To the result that the electing committee is today only rubber-stamping the choice made in Beijing. For example at the last election some members of the committee openly complained that Beijing was taking too much time to give them instructions as to whom to vote for. They were afraid to vote for the wrong candidate, with all the possible consequences for their business or interests. Before 1997 there was nothing preventing a party to offer a candidate for the Chief Executive election. If he could convince enough members of the committee then fine. Nobody would go and harass committee members with administrative chicanes, threat to contracts, or even personal threats though the Triads (all being used today by Beijing). Add to this the fact that the that the Chief Executive must be a member of the Communist Party as this is just too important a political position for Beijing.