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Northern Ireland police face fresh riots in Belfast

World Jun. 22, 2011 - 07:00AM JST ( 18 )

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tkoind2Jun. 22, 2011 - 08:58AM JST

Religion too often divideds people. The Protestant/Catholic disagreement of some 500+ years is an excellent illustration of this fact.

In the end, religion is just one more way our tribal instincts lead us to divide ourselves into us and them tribes. Humans have great technology and toys, but we are still pretty much the same emotionally as hundreds of years ago.
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realistJun. 22, 2011 - 09:50AM JST

The problems in Northern Ireland are not religious, they are political, under the guise of "religion."
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tkoind2Jun. 22, 2011 - 09:58AM JST

realist. They are rooted in the religious conflicts of the late 16th century. Religious issues and political issues in this case are one in the same. Check your history.
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y3chomeJun. 22, 2011 - 10:33AM JST

Tkoind2- its not the religion that it is root of the trouble. Even way back then King Billy had support from the Vatican at the time. realist is right, they are political/ethnic/tribal problems.
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lucabrasiJun. 22, 2011 - 10:40AM JST

we are still pretty much the same emotionally as hundreds of years ago.

Make that "millions" and I'd go along with you.
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y3chomeJun. 22, 2011 - 10:45AM JST

And if there was ever a perfect example of a case where religion and politics are one and the same, its Northern Ireland. Check your historyyyyy
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y3chomeJun. 22, 2011 - 10:46AM JST

oooops, are NOT one and the same
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YongYangJun. 22, 2011 - 11:41AM JST

Religion is a political doctrine, a way to control those gullible enough to fall for it. The depth of the entrenchment of these 'ideas' in NI are formidable. An economic depression does not bode well for the UK.
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Stranger_in_a_Strange_LandJun. 22, 2011 - 12:56PM JST

Religion is not the root of the issue. It's colonialism.
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RecklessJun. 22, 2011 - 01:56PM JST

As economies tank, the old divisions will rise again. Hopefully the EU can pull it together with some kind of political integration.
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y3chomeJun. 22, 2011 - 02:26PM JST

Yup, the economic depression does not bode well for peace.
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Lieberman2012Jun. 22, 2011 - 05:00PM JST

Like petulant little kids they will in the end beg daddy (a US president) to solve the problems they created.
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steve@CPFCJun. 22, 2011 - 05:04PM JST

Lieberman2102; a large amount of the problem was caused by Americans supporting and funding terrorist organisations such as the IRA.

Americans even had public und raising events to buy weapons for the IRA who were slaughtering innocent citizens. we don't need a US Presidents help thank you. Americans only changed their tune after 9/11.
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Spidapig24Jun. 22, 2011 - 05:12PM JST

Lieberman2012,

You really dont get it do you!!! As steve@CPFC said a lot of the IRA's (you know the terrorist organisation) money for arms came via the US. So if they do ask the US for help as you suggest it will only be to undo what US money caused. Actually that sounds familiar US money causing issues around the world that the US then take military action to fix.... Maybe the US could bomb them they do that well!!!
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YongYangJun. 22, 2011 - 05:50PM JST

@Stranger, you really are showing your ignorance of the historical context of the Irish situation if you merely paint it as a result of 'colonialism'.
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Spidapig24Jun. 22, 2011 - 05:54PM JST

YongYang,

Actually Stranger is partly right about it being about colonialism. However it is also about religion too
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SuperLibJun. 22, 2011 - 08:02PM JST

It's actually about the abuse of religion. On it's own it can do some pretty positive things and change people's lives. I'm not a religious person but I won't define it entirely through conflicts such as this.
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y3chomeJun. 23, 2011 - 09:03AM JST

And the money ended up in Libya.... It is a lot less about religion than you think, some people just hang on to these labels coz they are easier to understand.