Not so fast, Clinton says to Obama: There is no Democratic nominee yet
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Taka313
I have nothing against Hillary sticking it out but c'mon, you've got to be kidding me with this:
Yes Hillary, the man who is only capable of lies and deceit said you were the stronger candidate.
Let's just think about that for a while, shall we?
And then there's this also:
How much of a popular vote lead would she have had Sen. Obama not played by the rules and kept his name on the ballot in Michigan? Does she assume we all forgot that little nuggett?
Taka
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skipthesong
c'mon lady, get over it. You are not going to win in any way shape or form and you are becoming an embarrassment.
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SezWho2
I find Hillary an unlikely champion of the people, but in my head I keep hearing the theme from Rocky.
She is right, of course. "It ain't over 'til it's over." "It ain't over 'til the fat lady sings." And I think she is also right to continue. The contest is close and she hasn't been eliminated. To quit now would be a betrayal of her supporters.
I think the important thing for Hillary at this point, however, is to make nice with the likely winner and join him in arguing against McCain and then let the chips fall where they may. There seems to be some indication that she is doing this as she has at least toned down her attacks on Obama of late.
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SushiSake3
Sez, - "I think the important thing for Hillary at this point, however, is to make nice with the likely winner and join him in arguing against McCain and then let the chips fall where they may. There seems to be some indication that she is doing this as she has at least toned down her attacks on Obama of late."
You're right, she has, and I think she will. The big ?? is whether her supporters will follow suit and follow her.
Really、with the embarassment the Republican party has become, this is going to be a walkover for the Dems.
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SuperLib
Today's attack was about Obama speaking in front of larger crowds....pretty much hands off on the political end.
Just curious, do you support a Obama-Clinton ticket? I still can't really decide if it's good or bad for the Dems or not, probably because it's both good and bad.
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Sarge
Hey, there's still time for the messiah to implode, though he could say or do almost anything and his supporters will still support him.
Karl Rove is right - Hillary is the stronger candidate between those two.
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SushiSake3
Sarge - "there's still time for the messiah to implode,"
Sorry, won't happen.
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adaydream
Has Ron Paul given up his bid for president? Has he stopped campaigning?
All this really means is that the republicans still need to hold most of it's dirty tricks for a few more weeks. Their hate is just simmering inside the pressure cooker.
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Sarge
Sushi - Yeah, I know that.
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Sarge
As you know, Edwards has endorsed Obama, and this is important because his only previous endorsement was for Crest White Strips.
Anyway, since the Edward endorsement, all eyes are on Al Gore now, ooh, who's Al Gore going to endorse?! And analysts think Gore's going to jump on the Obama bandwagon. Have you seen Al Gore lately? Could be the end of the bandwagon.
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USNinJapan2
SushiSake3
Obama is so ripe for an "October surprise"...
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Taka313
I can't say however, Ralph Nader is still doing his thing: http://wonkette.com/391686/like-obama-nader-really-packs-em-in
The comments section had me howling. My personal favorite: "I can attract more than 20 people on the Mall on a gorgeous spring day just by flashing my boobies. And I am a middle aged man."
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RomeoRamenII
Obama is so ripe for an "October surprise"...
That's about the time "Rev." Wright's tell-all book is to be released.
RR
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Alphaape
Hillary is just starting the 2012 election a bit early. If Obama somehow manages to get the Presidency this time, then if she began at the beginning of his first term of being on the attack against him, it will only portray her in the public as a shrewd and vindictive woman, who is a sore looser. That will carry on over until 2012 and depending on how good or bad Obama does if he is elected probably make it harder for her to try.
If, McCain wins, Hillary will just say that she knew this was going to happen since she won in the states with the "hard working white male voters" that Obama lost to McCain. She will have 4 years to brow beat this into the American public (I will give her 3 because the smart thing for her to do in McCain's first year if he is elected is to lay low and try to support him on a bi-partisan level, and not seem too hostile about loosing). When 2012 rolls around, I think Hillary will campaign on the fact that the 2008 election was lost because she did not get the nomination, and this time she will be the right choice.
At any rate, if she gives herelf the money out of her own personal finances (they have made over $800 million since Bill left the office 8 years ago, they can afford to blow off 30 million for a worthy cause), she will more than make up for it on the lecture circut.
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RedMeatKoolAid
It is over for the Clinton gang. Even old Robert Byrd has endorsed Barack Obama. You can't beat that kind of diversity.
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Sarge
"It is over for the Clinton gang"
Question: Is Obama still short?
"Even old Robert Byrd has endorsed Barack"
Yeah, but hugely popular former President Bill Clinton has endorsed Hillary!
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SushiSake3
USAinJapan2 - "Obama is so ripe for an "October surprise"..."
ha ha, looks like the "October surprise" came early - between March-May when the Republicans lost 3 diehard red states to Democrats.
I'd say last week's Republican party-shaking swing to the Dems of Mississippi - a state that voted 62% for Bush in 2004 - was a "May surprise", and sadly for the terrorist hugging Republicans, a bitter foretaste of things to come.
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skipthesong
I would put nothing past Hillary on this. I just read about Obama's friend Ayers and he does indeed look terrible, much like what he said he was fighting. Can we put it past Hillary not to make mention of this? Does she have some secret weapon somewhere?
I am really curious
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SushiSake3
I'm getting bored......it's just too easy taking on the Republican/McCain supporters in this election.
You can nail a Republican/McCain supporter for hypocrisy, double standards, outright lies, propaganda, race baiting, or all 5 pretty much every time they open their mouths.
Oh, and by the way, Hillary is toast.
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skipthesong
sushi,
Obama, and you and people like you are going to have to get use to the fact that the double standard that was placed on a lot of lower and middle class white is now coming home to bite them in the butt, if that double standard is going to remain status quo. If that is something Obama can't deal with, then I would throw my vote for Obama away!
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skipthesong
Mind you sushi,
Obama has not done overly well amongst Hispanics, and very few dems have ever fared well with Cuban Americans, a very large group of voters. Them plus working class whites does pose a potential problem. You may have taken Rev. Wright lightly, but a lot of other people have not and they are not race baiters.
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SushiSake3
Skipthesong - talking double-standards, you and I both know that is the bread and butter of being a politician, although some politicians do it better - and are more adept at covering their a*ses - than others.
I keep on thinking that to be a successful politician, you have be a shameless individual who is also reasonably good actor.
Otherwise your conscience will keep on rearing it's head and thumping you in yours, and your lame acting skills will show you up as a lying, underhand lowlife.
Just my 2 yen :-)
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SezWho2
SuperLib,
Yes, the large-crowds comment was a kind of complimentary backhand.
And I think you're right. An Obama/Clinton ticket would be both good and bad. I think it would be good in the sense that it would bring the maximum unity to Democratic voters but bad in the sense that they are not a natural team.
I don't support any ticket with both on it, however, I would prefer it to McCain/Huckabee (or whoever) and probably to any third party ticket as well.
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USNinJapan2
SushiSake3
Do you know what an October Surprise is? It doesn't sound like you do...
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skipthesong
sushi: you and I both know that is the bread and butter of being a politician, although some politicians do it better - and are more adept at covering their a*ses - than others." Yes, but why do you let so many off the hook?
I keep on thinking that to be a successful politician, you have be a shameless individual who is also reasonably good actor." A new dawning has arrived - Sushi and I agree on something!
USNin: What event is going to bring out an October Surprise and just what can Hillary do to make that happen?
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SushiSake3
Skip - "A new dawning has arrived - Sushi and I agree on something!"
Wrong, heh, I beg to disagree - 'dawning' (above) should have been 'dawn'......
Sorry you got your hopes up :-)
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skipthesong
sushi: well, then I misunderstood your post. So, you are saying that to be a politician, one must be "you and I both know that is the bread and butter of being a politician, although some politicians do it better - and are more adept at covering their a*ses - than others. I keep on thinking that to be a successful politician, you have be a shameless individual who is also reasonably good actor.", but Obama is not one of them?
If yes, then you have put a lot of hope into a politician. No politician gets 100% of my hope. I have been disappointed too many times.
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RomeoRamenII
"Obama has not done overly well amongst Hispanics, and very few dems have ever fared well with Cuban Americans, a very large group of voters. Them plus working class whites does pose a potential problem."
Good point, skip. obama won the white vote in only 6 out of 37 state primaries. Where can the democrats borrow 40 million black people for one day in November?
RR
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USNinJapan2
skipthesong
It won't be a particular event or anything that Hillary has anything to do with. If there is an October Surprise it'll be something that no one foresaw, maybe something along the lines of Reverend Wright but some kind of scandal that can ruin things for the Democrats in the 11th hour. For the most part Obama has been successful at selling his clean "I'm-not-like-any-of-the-other-politicians" image but you've got to be damn naive to think he doesn't have any skeletons in the closet. He's just like the rest of them; just better at hiding it that's all. We'll see what juicy bones surface to trip him up...
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Madverts
And the hysteria, and the Panic continues. Roll on Jan 2009.
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Sarge
"And the hysteria and the Panic continues"
Would that have anything to do with Operation Chaos? xD
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presto345
I think I'll second that!
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Madverts
Sarge;
"Would that have anything to do with Operation Chaos? xD"
Heh. I didn't realize King of the Shriek, Rush Limbaugh was out of rehab....
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