The attempted smears of Palin by Obama's camp (both official and unofficial) have been coming so fast that websties have been setup to address the rumors. Here is an excerpt from one such site:
40. yes, she did ask the librarian if some books could be withdrawn because of being offensive; no, they couldn’t; yes, it was “rhetorical”, at least as was reported contemporaneously in 1996[1] ; yes she did threaten to fire the librarian a month later; no, that wasn’t over the books thing but instead over administrative issues; no, the librarian wasn’t fired either; yes, the librarian was a big supporter of one of her political opponents; yes, the librarian was also the girlfriend of the Chief of police mentioned above; no, this is not the first time in the history of civilization that someone has been threatened with being fired over a political dispute
From FactCheck.org article titled "Sliming Palin":
She did not demand that books be banned from the Wasilla library. Some of the books on a widely circulated list were not even in print at the time. The librarian has said Palin asked a "What if?" question, but the librarian continued in her job through most of Palin's first term.
Two DNC employees went through Michael Steele's trash, got his SS# and ran a credit check on him in an attempt to dig up dirt for the benefit of the DNC. You're trying to distance the entire DNC by claiming that the event was "decried by Democrats and Republicans alike", while simultaneously painting anyone who tries to smear the entire DNC over the event as a hater.
Yet another example of Republican dishonesty.
First of all, the incident involved two staffers of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC) and not the "DNC." The staffers did not go through Steele's trash; they found his SSN in an old court document while doing research, and wrongfully applied for his credit report. DSCC supervisors had no knowledge of the actions of these junior staffers -- and, as soon as they were informed by the junior staffers, they fired them and started an internal investigation. The DSCC also notified the FBI and apologized to Steele.
The DSCC acted properly even though these two young staffers did not. Your attempt to smear all Democrats by this is nothing less than scurrilous, yet all to typical of the right-wing haters.
Now the word is that Obama has sent dozens – who knows how many operatives – to Alaska to work 24/7 on digging up some dirt on Sarah Palin.
So, you needed someone to bring this to your attention? Wake up and smell the coffee! Every candidate of either party has done this with both the Presidential and Vice Presidential candidate since as far back as you can remember times two. Dang, get a clue before you post naive comments like that.
My guess is that you'll call this guy (and anyone else who dares question Obama or the DNC) a dirtbag.
Questioning is one thing. Leveling false accusations is quite another. It's a dirtbag who does that. I've got no problem whatsoever with RNC or DNC people checking out the records and backgrounds of the opposition. Just as long as they tell the whole story, which is what you failed to do with your attack on the DSCC and Mike Steele.
If Palin is as clean as Republicans would like us to believe, there will be no dirt to be found.
He could have run against them instead of having them disqualified. That's also perfectly legal and happens every year. He also wouldn't be accused of not earning his first office.
Obama wasn't the one with the power to disqualify those contenders. If they submitted legal petitions with proper signatures, they wouldn't have been disqualified. I am not saying this was practicing the highest ideals of politics; but it is a far cry from what you described as the actions of "thugs."
That's why the librarian was fired? Where did you get that?
It doesn't take a genius to connect those dots. She was fired because her political beliefs were opposed to the incoming mayor's. But a librarian should not be a political position, especially when the politician involved is one who is active with groups that endorse censorship.
Just this year, she sent to Sen. Ted. Stevens, R-Alaska, a proposal for 31 earmarks totaling $197 million — more, per person, than any other state.
The bridge to nowhere was an earmark.
In a debate, Palin said she would fight for the earmark to build the bridge. McCain and others sought to divert those funds to help fund Hurricane Katrina recovery. That prompted a threat from Stevens to resign from the Senate for such discrimination against his state.
The NeoCons need to contact the Republican Party so they can sue the Seattle Times for liable. They can't; because these are the facts. You liars are busted again!
The Seattle Times originated as the Seattle Press-Times, a four-page newspaper founded in 1891.
There is plenty more; Please feel free to read the article.
Good Donkey,
But, as we all know, the Seattle Press-Times MUST be a liberal rag. It's in Seattle for heaven's sakes. The lone honest repuclican laid out exactly why Seattle is not to be trusted:
Thanks that was great. As a liberal I think I have spent a proper part of my day listening to the conservative point of view by watching that video. I never heard of the guy before but I will be watching many videos in the near future I am quite sure.
read it at WSJ: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122098190668515511.html?mod=opinionjournalpolitical_diary
Yes indeed, straight from WhiteHawk's source. Here is the truth:
Mike Gehrke, the DNC's research chief, e-mails to say that Democratic staffers have not traveled en masse to Alaska to join the Sarah Palin hunt.
"Not a single person from DC or Chicago has traveled to Alaska to do research," he writes. Not a single Obama staffer, not a DNC staffer, not a hired gun, he says.
Local Democratic operatives are helping out, and Obama has a field office open, he said, but John Fund's report of an "army" of 30 officials being airlifted to Alaska are false.
Gehrke calls the above paragraph a "flat-out absolute fabrication. We have sent absolutely zero people."
This debate and the presidency in general will change nothing. Merely a distraction from the real issues and current events. It reminds me of an episode of American Idol that I regrettably saw one time.
A guy Like Sen McCain is not going to be dishonest in his campaigning. He served our ntion with distincyion, and us patriotic vets will be voting for him.
Palin seems like a great young woman with wise ideas, and morals lacking in the Democrat guys.
Obama is using dirty tricks, he will be shunned by decent folk.
Wow Swifboatvet. Nothing wrong with voting how you see fit, but voting blindly for very simplistic reasons kinda reminds me of blind faith and blind patriotism. McCain is a vet, Yaay. He's been in a political office for 26 years, yaay. Now think, what is he going to do for the COUNTRY and its CITIZENS, and not just the select few.
You sound like you're not looking deeper to find out whats behind the mask. Some of the more recent vets are getting royally screwed after they've finished serving their country. Considering how much is spent for them to go TO war and how much they're taking away from those that have the fortunate ability to come back and find they can't get their lives back together because the funds to support them properly back into society is being taken away from them.
I agree the US is a great nation, but with the wrong people in control we get the situation we're in now as well as encouraging a bad global reputation. The old days are gone and our government needs to shape up.
Still, how upset should we be about the McCain campaign's lies? I mean, politics ain't beanbag, and all that.
One answer is that the muck being hurled by the McCain campaign is preventing a debate on real issues - on whether the country really wants, for example, to continue the economic policies of the last eight years.
But there's another answer, which may be even more important: how a politician campaigns tells you a lot about how he or she would govern.
I'm not talking about the theory, often advanced as a defense of horse-race political reporting, that the skills needed to run a winning campaign are the same as those needed to run the country. The contrast between the Bush political team's ruthless effectiveness and the heckuva job done by the Bush administration is living, breathing, bumbling, and, in the case of the emerging Interior Department scandal, coke-snorting and bed-hopping proof to the contrary.
I'm talking, instead, about the relationship between the character of a campaign and that of the administration that follows. Thus, the deceptive and dishonest 2000 Bush-Cheney campaign provided an all-too-revealing preview of things to come. In fact, my early suspicion that we were being misled about the threat from Iraq came from the way the political tactics being used to sell the war resembled the tactics that had earlier been used to sell the Bush tax cuts.
And now the team that hopes to form the next administration is running a campaign that makes Bush-Cheney 2000 look like something out of a civics class. What does that say about how that team would run the country?
What it says, I'd argue, is that the Obama campaign is wrong to suggest that a McCain-Palin administration would just be a continuation of Bush-Cheney. If the way John McCain and Sarah Palin are campaigning is any indication, it would be much, much worse.
In response to Obama accuses republican rivals of dishonesty - sarah palin support the illegal war in Iraq and Afghanistan http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/local/news/General/palin-backs-americas-righteous-war/1270805.aspx - just what you all's children need, another BUSH - only minus everything.
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WhiteHawk at 05:15 AM JST - 11th September
The attempted smears of Palin by Obama's camp (both official and unofficial) have been coming so fast that websties have been setup to address the rumors. Here is an excerpt from one such site:
40. yes, she did ask the librarian if some books could be withdrawn because of being offensive; no, they couldn’t; yes, it was “rhetorical”, at least as was reported contemporaneously in 1996[1] ; yes she did threaten to fire the librarian a month later; no, that wasn’t over the books thing but instead over administrative issues; no, the librarian wasn’t fired either; yes, the librarian was a big supporter of one of her political opponents; yes, the librarian was also the girlfriend of the Chief of police mentioned above; no, this is not the first time in the history of civilization that someone has been threatened with being fired over a political dispute
http://explorations.chasrmartin.com/2008/09/06/palin-rumors/
Helter_Skelter at 05:51 AM JST - 11th September
From FactCheck.org article titled "Sliming Palin":
She did not demand that books be banned from the Wasilla library. Some of the books on a widely circulated list were not even in print at the time. The librarian has said Palin asked a "What if?" question, but the librarian continued in her job through most of Palin's first term.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html
The article covers lies being perpetrated against Palin with analysis of each.
yabits at 08:00 AM JST - 11th September
Yet another example of Republican dishonesty.
First of all, the incident involved two staffers of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC) and not the "DNC." The staffers did not go through Steele's trash; they found his SSN in an old court document while doing research, and wrongfully applied for his credit report. DSCC supervisors had no knowledge of the actions of these junior staffers -- and, as soon as they were informed by the junior staffers, they fired them and started an internal investigation. The DSCC also notified the FBI and apologized to Steele.
The DSCC acted properly even though these two young staffers did not. Your attempt to smear all Democrats by this is nothing less than scurrilous, yet all to typical of the right-wing haters.
goodDonkey at 08:02 AM JST - 11th September
WhiteHawk said:
So, you needed someone to bring this to your attention? Wake up and smell the coffee! Every candidate of either party has done this with both the Presidential and Vice Presidential candidate since as far back as you can remember times two. Dang, get a clue before you post naive comments like that.
yabits at 08:22 AM JST - 11th September
Questioning is one thing. Leveling false accusations is quite another. It's a dirtbag who does that. I've got no problem whatsoever with RNC or DNC people checking out the records and backgrounds of the opposition. Just as long as they tell the whole story, which is what you failed to do with your attack on the DSCC and Mike Steele.
If Palin is as clean as Republicans would like us to believe, there will be no dirt to be found.
Obama wasn't the one with the power to disqualify those contenders. If they submitted legal petitions with proper signatures, they wouldn't have been disqualified. I am not saying this was practicing the highest ideals of politics; but it is a far cry from what you described as the actions of "thugs."
It doesn't take a genius to connect those dots. She was fired because her political beliefs were opposed to the incoming mayor's. But a librarian should not be a political position, especially when the politician involved is one who is active with groups that endorse censorship.
goodDonkey at 08:28 AM JST - 11th September
Palin = Earmarks
The bridge to nowhere was an earmark.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2008154532_webpalin02m.html
The NeoCons need to contact the Republican Party so they can sue the Seattle Times for liable. They can't; because these are the facts. You liars are busted again!
The Seattle Times originated as the Seattle Press-Times, a four-page newspaper founded in 1891.
There is plenty more; Please feel free to read the article.
Brought to you by the Republican Liars Club
Taka313 at 08:34 AM JST - 11th September
Good Donkey, But, as we all know, the Seattle Press-Times MUST be a liberal rag. It's in Seattle for heaven's sakes. The lone honest repuclican laid out exactly why Seattle is not to be trusted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Lu0mBbEqFs
Enjoy. ;-)
Taka
goodDonkey at 08:52 AM JST - 11th September
Taka
Thanks that was great. As a liberal I think I have spent a proper part of my day listening to the conservative point of view by watching that video. I never heard of the guy before but I will be watching many videos in the near future I am quite sure.
yabits at 10:21 AM JST - 11th September
Yes indeed, straight from WhiteHawk's source. Here is the truth:
Mike Gehrke, the DNC's research chief, e-mails to say that Democratic staffers have not traveled en masse to Alaska to join the Sarah Palin hunt.
"Not a single person from DC or Chicago has traveled to Alaska to do research," he writes. Not a single Obama staffer, not a DNC staffer, not a hired gun, he says.
Local Democratic operatives are helping out, and Obama has a field office open, he said, but John Fund's report of an "army" of 30 officials being airlifted to Alaska are false.
Gehrke calls the above paragraph a "flat-out absolute fabrication. We have sent absolutely zero people."
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/dncobamaoperativesflood_into.php
jaybeeb at 09:38 PM JST - 11th September
This debate and the presidency in general will change nothing. Merely a distraction from the real issues and current events. It reminds me of an episode of American Idol that I regrettably saw one time.
SwiftBoatVet at 10:24 PM JST - 11th September
A guy Like Sen McCain is not going to be dishonest in his campaigning. He served our ntion with distincyion, and us patriotic vets will be voting for him.
Palin seems like a great young woman with wise ideas, and morals lacking in the Democrat guys.
Obama is using dirty tricks, he will be shunned by decent folk.
HonestDictator at 03:57 AM JST - 12th September
Wow Swifboatvet. Nothing wrong with voting how you see fit, but voting blindly for very simplistic reasons kinda reminds me of blind faith and blind patriotism. McCain is a vet, Yaay. He's been in a political office for 26 years, yaay. Now think, what is he going to do for the COUNTRY and its CITIZENS, and not just the select few.
You sound like you're not looking deeper to find out whats behind the mask. Some of the more recent vets are getting royally screwed after they've finished serving their country. Considering how much is spent for them to go TO war and how much they're taking away from those that have the fortunate ability to come back and find they can't get their lives back together because the funds to support them properly back into society is being taken away from them.
I agree the US is a great nation, but with the wrong people in control we get the situation we're in now as well as encouraging a bad global reputation. The old days are gone and our government needs to shape up.
zurcronium at 06:25 AM JST - 13th September
Still, how upset should we be about the McCain campaign's lies? I mean, politics ain't beanbag, and all that.
WilliB at 11:40 PM JST - 13th September
pot - kettle - black
Philosophy187 at 12:53 PM JST - 15th September
In response to Obama accuses republican rivals of dishonesty - sarah palin support the illegal war in Iraq and Afghanistan http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/local/news/General/palin-backs-americas-righteous-war/1270805.aspx - just what you all's children need, another BUSH - only minus everything.
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