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adaydream
I'm glad to hear that Barack Obama is open to off shore drilling with some agreements on other areas of energy production. < :-)
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USAPatriot
Another flip flop from Barack Hussein Obama. Can anyone trust a word this guy says. Tee Hee!
He changes energy and almost all other policies weekly. The guy has no credibility.
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Wolfpack
There is no alternative to more domestic oil development over the next ten to twenty years. However, Obama isn't serious about expanding domestic oil. He is in the tank to the far left environmentalists as are all other leading Democrat's like Pelosi and Reid. He is trying to get through the next three months without getting killed on this issue and then will flip back to restricting energy. The man has flat out said that he wants higher energy costs - he just wanted prices to go up more slowly than they have.
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ChimpsAhead
I agree with USAPatriot and Wolfpack. Barack Hussein Obama does another flip flop. Oh dear seems like the chosen one has run out of ideas already.
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skipthesong
people, flip flopping is a part of a politician's life cycle. Everyone of them does it. Sometimes its good, sometimes its bad. If you are one that is for more drilling and tapping into stockpiles, what is the problem? besides, more and more Americans are for more domestic drilling. This helps the oil companies and will help the market.
You really can't do anything about it, so buy some stocks in oil related companies.
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SezWho2
McCain says:
On the contrary, anyone who says we can achieve energy independence by using and increasing these resources doesn't understand the extent of the problem and isn't giving anyone the straight talk. I think that what is true is that if American ever does achieve "energy independence", the contribution of the offshore drilling to that achievement will amount to little more than the contribution of inflating our tires.
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USAPatriot
SezWho2; McCain knows his stuff. He is well knon as one of the most gifted minds in the US, if not the world.
McCain will do what is best for the US. He doesn`t have special interests, he just cares for us all.
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SushiSake3
Wolfpack - "He is in the tank to the far left environmentalists .."
That's great news for your grandkids who will hopefully be breathing cleaner air.
Chimpsahead - "Oh dear seems like the chosen one has run out of ideas already."
Rubbish. Compared to McCain, who is effectively carbon-copy of Bush on the Iraq war, on wanting to make the tax cuts permanent, on wanting to launch offshore oil drilling, etc. - all of which will make America poorer financially otherwise environmentally, Obama is ideas central.
Pity your man McCain wants to enrich the pockets of Big Oil execs even more.
Aren't they already making enough??
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SushiSake3
USAPatriot - "McCain will do what is best for the US. He doesn`t have special interests, he just cares for us all."
That quote sits right on the razor's edge between white hot sarcasm and belly-slapping humor - great stuff - bring on more jokes like that! :-)
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USAPatriot
SushiSake3; I have avidly been watching both candidates daily on Fox News. I have yet to hear of McCain having any special interests.
I have heard of Barack Hussein Obama having special interests among the liberal elite.
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LIBERTAS
Re: Obama "He changes energy and almost all other policies weekly." Sadly, I think that you're correct on this one. There's a fine line between redefining policies and scrapping them altogether for convenient political points. Dirty game, politics!
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undecidedbout08
I'd wager that Wolfpack, if living in any major East Coast American city, breathes air that is cleaner than what his grand parents did.
But the hysteria still always amuses.
Exxon is the largest US oil company.
They rank 14th worldwide.
Why is it people like you never go after OPEC?
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skipthesong
Pity your man McCain wants to enrich the pockets of Big Oil execs even more" Not if you invest properly.
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SushiSake3
USAPatriot - " have heard of Barack Hussein Obama having special interests among the liberal elite."
Which are, exactly?
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USAPatriot
SushiSake; His speacial new friends in Europe and Mexico and Canada. Mexico and Canada will be subsidised by billions of dollars a year, due to Barack Hussein Obama`s free trade policies.
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SezWho2
USAPatriot,
It kind of goes against my grain to cut off an exchange of opinions, but unless you can come up with a new idea or a new way to express an old idea I might have to make an exception.
One of the greatest enemy of freedom is blind obedience to a cause. Another is the substitution of fiction for fact. McCain has never demonstrated that he has one of the most gifted minds in the US. He could not even demonstrate that he had one of the most gifted minds at Annapolis. He's not a dunce, but he is hardly gifted and your blind devotion to him--if that devotion is real--tends to weaken the country instead of strengthening it.
It also tends to avoid the issue. And if we could just get back to the issue for a moment, that would be energy independence. I have been disappointed by Obama's change of heart regarding drilling. However, I can understand it.
The point, however, is that Obama supports drilling only as a way to get America off the dime. It has wide-spread appeal as did the summer gasoline tax holiday. The problem is that it will not constitute any significant help to making America more energy independent. Setting aside the question as to whether energy independence is even possible (compare food supply independence in Japan), any oil that is produced by drilling will be late in coming and insufficient.
Offshore drilling? Good for the oil companies. Inconsequential for Americans. Potentially perilous for the environment.
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skipthesong
your blind devotion to him--if that devotion is real--tends to weaken the country instead of strengthening it." Sez, I am not with McC, but I made this point about Obama's supporters. While I would go with him, I refuse to be a groupie, which is what he has. It's almost as he can do no wrong and I see that attitude more with Obama supporters than I do with McCain's. Obama has the status of a rock star would have had back in the 70's - if I am correct, would you still believe that said devotion tends to weaken the country?
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sailwind
That is the kinda change I can get behind. Huckabee was also all over this by the way.
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presto345
Both Obama and McCain are changing their tunes according to what the polls predict about the opinion of the voters. Leave it to the latter to determine the outcome of the race. The earth is doomed anyway.
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SushiSake3
Sail, I remember a good few months ago you posted a line or two from one of Huckabee's speeches where he said something along the lines of America's oil addiction is fueling terrorism and that getting off both should be a major priroity.
Bang on, in my book.
Ditto for Obama.
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some14some
perhaps that it the reason there is steep decline in Oil prices?
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SezWho2
skipthesong,
Blind devotion to Obama is no better than blind devotion to McCain.
I disagree with you that Obama is equivalent to a 70s rock star. Obama has had a rather remarkable career and has succeeded well in almost everything he has done--whether that be becoming president of the Harvard Law Review, his service in the Illinois legislature, his success in being elected to the US Senate, his ascendancy into a position of respect in the Senate and so on. This does not happen because one is a rock star. Obama has had many opportunities to show personal and political incompetence and he has not done that. In fact, he has done the opposite of that.
I think it would be unwise to treat him as the second coming of Christ, but that is the label that McCain is trying to hang on him. I have no doubt that many people adulate Obama because he seems to offer something new and different and that many may think he can do no wrong. However, I think it is the case that those are relatively few in number and that what you see is a large number of people who will leap to Obama's defense simply because they have had enough of the Rovian character assassination that typified the last campaign.
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sailwind
Lame.........Clinton 'triangulated' politics with wedge issues long before Satan Rove came along. Rove learned from Carville and company let's give this garbage a rest finally.
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SezWho2
sailwind,
Clinton has nothing to do with this. Triangulating politics with wedge issues is one thing. Triangulation does not involve character assassination. Arranging for the swiftboating of candidates is another. It is "corrupting" politics with non-issues.
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RomeoRamenII
Obama has had a rather remarkable career
Yep, and cashing in on being half black every step of the way.
president of the Harvard Law Review - where he never published one paper during his tenure (a requirement for holding that position in case you didn't know) but was given a free ride because he was a product of Affirmative Action;
his service in the Illinois legislature - "elected" not because he was the best man for the job; he was the only man for the job. He and his team back in the 1990s found technicalities in each of the candidates running against him to get them all disqualified;
his success in being elected to the US Senate - where he spent all of 143 day as a Senator - and voted "present" 137 times during that period - before he thought he was deserving of a promotion to Leader of the Free World.
Your boy, obama, is now being caught out. Opinion polls are now showing that he being seen in a less favorable light than bfore his ego trip to Europe. Wonder why is that?
He burned his bridge with the blue collar guns and Bible clinging portion of voters. Now, he's dissing the far-left wing of the democrat party; the ones who originally selected him as "The One". Notice how lately he's been tearing pages out of President Bush's policy book and trying to claim them as his own.
Go to DU and see what they are saying about the empty suit. They are mad was hornets because the guy they supported through the primaries is now throwing them under the obama bus on a number of issues they hold dear.
A poster on another thread the other day accurately pointed out that to the dems, obama is good enough for them this time around not because he's electable but because voters would reject a President Bush-clinton-President Bush-clinton monopoly on the U.S. executive branch of government.
RR
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Madverts
Panic...heh...PANIC
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sdmsec
Oil addiction
Apparently, oil has continued to be the easiest and/or cheapest means of meeting our energy needs. When someone invents a better mousetrap (cheaper, simpler, etc) I and other consumers the world around will jump on board.
I'll agree that the U.S. government has "intervened" and therefore the energy market isn't trully "free". For example, the government has restricted nuclear power, denied construction of new refineries, etc.
As I believe much of the energy problems today are based on Washington interference I wish Obama and McCain would both adopt the following as their energy policy: hands off.
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RomeoRamenII
yep, verts, you are correct. The liberals are panicing. They're watching their idol slip in opinion polls daily and shift his policy stances that more more align themselves with President Bush as democrat Lemming Day draws closer. Heh, their heads are exploding. You can read the fear in their posts.
RR
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SezWho2
RomeoRamenII,
You're fairly strong on claim and fairly weak on evidence. Can you provide citations for your assertions?
Regardless how Obama came to Harvard he graduated magna cum laude and that does not happen by affirmative action. I cannot find any requirement that the President of the Review publish within it.
The "technicality" that you mention regarding Obama's first Illinois Senate campaign was the validity of the signatures on the petitions for inclusion on the ballot. I can only presume that you would be in favor of incumbents retaining their seats by flooding the ballot with a dizzying array of choices.
As for voting present, he may have done so and access to your statistical data base would be fascinating. However, he cast 117 more votes than McCain did so, while McCain's strategy was to stay away rather than showing up, Obama's strategy was to abstain.
Blind hatred is no better than blind devotion. It's worse in my opinion. And you can see how much it distracts us from the real issue here, which is: offshore drilling--good thing or bad? Or possibly: Obama's change of heart--wishy-washy flip flop or political concession?
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helloklitty
Obama says he'd like to steal some money from oil companies and use it to write every family an energy rebate check America a check for $1,000.
This is the infamous "windfall profits tax," popularized (and proved worthless and destructive) by Jimmy Carter. Obama said nothing of what a windfall profit might be.
It happens by just showing up for class according to The Times:
http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?storycode=402674&encCode=5963447391BC23737875JTBS737226611
The Boston Globe's expose of grade inflation at Harvard has left little doubt that it is a semi-rigged competition, another subsidised risk. The formal scale runs from A to F. The tacit scale runs from A to B. I learnt the latter from students and supervisors, but especially from colleagues, few of whom wish to carry the opprobrium of the low end. This is as it may be. But the presence of two standards of value, one official and one tacit, is always a sign of corruption: the one necessarily dishonours the other. It also abridges the academic freedom of the teacher. Although I never gave a final grade below B minus, I can attest to the petty harassment that teachers attract in such cases.
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adaydream
Yes, the Liberals are a bit worried.
If John McCain actually got elected, this country will get screwed for the rich.
Flip Flop John McCain who has proven to flip the flop as well as the next guy.
But this george bush follower will continue the screwing that we've received the last 7 1/2 years.
Has either candidate mentioned the infracstructure that this country needs to transport the electrical energy needed in this country?
But let's just adopt the plan the republicans are screaming about so loudly, hell guys, why didn't they pass off shore drilling during the first 4 years when they were scampering to get into Iraq instead of taking care of the American people? < :-)
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SezWho2
helloklitty,
I think graduating magna is a little more taxing than just showing up. Basically you have to be in the top 10% of your class excluding the handful of summa grads.
http://www.law.harvard.edu/ocs/employers/HLSGradingSystem.htm
Or maybe that's just a lot of people not bothering to show up for class?
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