Obama, Cheney battle over Gitmo, terror policy

Friday 22nd May, 07:15 AM JST

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Sarge at 11:53 PM JST - 22nd May

Question: Were we attacked by terrorists before Gitmo opened?
VOR at 11:56 PM JST - 22nd May

As we finally start to learn the truth about water boarding, we come to find out that it was only used on three of the highest echelon AQ terrorist held at GITMO for the intent purpose of preventing any further attacks after 911. The phony moralists on the left (yeah you know who you are) intentionally distort the truth by trying to make it appear that these enhanced interrogation techniques were wide spread. Cheney with the truth on his side will dismantle the left's house of cards.
teleprompter at 12:01 AM JST - 23rd May

Smith stamps his feet: "it IS the president's decision, and he decided all torture is wrong, bottom line."

Obama has allowed rendition to continue.

"The highly controversial anti-terror practice of rendition will continue under Barack Obama, it has emerged."

[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/4425135/Barack-Obama-to-allow-anti-terror-rendition-to-continue.html]

"Torture" is no doubt still an option.

Obama counts on suckers to look the other way...
VOR at 12:14 AM JST - 23rd May

According to the left, Bush didn't do enough to protect America from 911 and did too much to protect America from post 911 attacks. Good on Cheney for finding a way to get the truth to the American public so that the birdbrains currently in power are held accountable when that dirty bomb hits one or more of our cities.
Taka313 at 12:16 AM JST - 23rd May

"cheney, with the truth on his side..."

That was the best line of fiction I've read since rereading the opening to A Tale of Two Cities.

cheney is megalomaniac who cannot stand that his machinations are being dismantled, and the people are happy for it; and America is no less safe.

I can't blame him. I'd be angry too if I had zero conscience and the last 8 years of my life's work were exposed as being detrimental to my nation.

But, having a conscience, if I'd done as much damage as dick, I'd just sip my cup of STFU quietly in the corner and pray I don't end up in front of the Hague, instead of whoring out my family on TV to defend an indensible reputation.

But that's just me.

Taka
ca1ic0cat at 02:54 AM JST - 23rd May

There is no excuse for torture. Are "Americans" so far above other people that we can use torture to save ourselves by harming others? That's a warped morality.

"Progressives make me laugh, with their ironic, embarrassing, almost exclusively Ameri-centric view of world."

I thought the "progressives" were arguing that nobody should be tortured even if the torture might save American lives. How is that Ameri-centric?

"All methods including torture must be allowed if it would save innocent American lives. I don' t want another 9/11 buddy." - DickMorris

Now that is Ameri-centric. Nobody wants another 9/11. But Gitmo has not prevented it. Gitmo has just provided the terrorists with a recruitment tool.

I would submit that, by taking the fight to Iraq, GWB made it easier for the terrorist wannabes to attack the military (and each other) rather than go through the difficulty in pulling off an attack in the US. This is what prevented another 9/11 and is probably the benefit of the war in Iraq that is not talked about.

Waging war is one thing, stooping to torture is not a solution to anything.
adaydream at 03:01 AM JST - 23rd May

Conservative talk shows are playing and replaying sound bites from cheney's speach and just beaming. One of them is cheney saying, paraphrased, "...you can't understand what it feels like to be under the Whitehouse in a bunker while we're being attacked...."

So he was scared in the bunker while the rest of America wasn't hiding in some bunker. he was down there planning his next plot... attacking Iraq. How to tie Iraq and Al-Quaeda together.

Play more sound bites. Let cheney talk more. Give him a microphone to carry around. I'm loving his time behind the mic. < :-)
teleprompter at 03:33 AM JST - 23rd May

But that's just me.

You suited up for Bush - capital B, btw - for 8 long years.

We'll take your word, with the usual grain of salt.
zurcronium at 05:31 AM JST - 23rd May

everyone knows cheney tortured to get anything he could get on the OBL Iraq connection, where none existed. Many who were tortured for this information died, basically they were murdered by bush and cheney.

If the two losers bush and cheney really wanted to protect the US they would have read the intelligence report that said OBL was going to use planes to fly into buildings. Both of them did nothing because all they could see was the oil in Iraq. American lives, no matter, oil for exxon in iraq, that mattered.
amerijap at 06:00 AM JST - 23rd May

Nothing is more dangerous than making an extreme case to a general rule such as endorsing CIA's harsh interrogation tactics-- water-boarding, sleep deprivation, and the series of abuses-- under the pretext of protecting the lives of civilians. They are all migrated from Guantanamo to Abu Grhaib.
pathat at 06:48 AM JST - 23rd May

Both parties would do well to pay full attention to the impending collapse of the U.S. dollar and the exploding budget deficits, instead of dickering around about who is right and who is wrong concerning "Homeland Security."

Bush/Cheney dug a big hole to put the American economy in, but Obama/Biden are excavating a new Grand Canyon to bury it in for good.
JoeBigs at 09:29 PM JST - 23rd May

All Dick is looking for is a book deal that is the only reason he is speaking out.
Wolfpack at 09:49 AM JST - 25th May

Looks like Barack is rubbing Dick the wrong way.

Since President Obama scheduled a dueling speech with Cheney on national security and Obama has just recently lost the Gitmo closure vote in Congress, I think it's likely that Dick is doing the rubbing.
SebastianFlyte at 12:45 PM JST - 26th May

I wouldn't qualify anything Cheney says by responding to his comments. He is a crook, had his chance, and ruined the country. He should be hung drawn and quartered for high treason (along with his pup, Bush and the others)
zurcronium at 04:14 AM JST - 27th May

the only folks who support cheney now are the non-thinkers. they live word by word from the hate speech of hannity, beck and limbaugh. All three of those guys play their listeners off as dupes, all those guys want is the money. If liberals were as gullible as the wingers then beck would be working the liberal crowd for the big payoffs. But we liberals like to think for ourselves and not be told what and how to think by empty suits with drug problems, or shills for the oil industry.