First, obama is given more delegates than hillary in two states in which she won the popular vote. Then, Obama is given 59 delegates in a state (Mich.) where he chose to remove his name from the ballot.
How can the "Democratic" party give delegates to someone who didn't run?
Honestly, calm down. Heh, thank your lucky stars Senator Obama presented himself into the race to trounce the dinasour the Republicans have wheeled out - McCain could have been facing a defeat from a Clinton, instead of a bright, young talent you know.
That really would have been a case of "* 'aint no mountain high enough*"
We democrats will be just fine. Most of the debate and desent I heard on the talk shows this morning is really from the republicans trying to stir up more than is really there.
Sure this is of utmost concern, but it's not a party splitting thing that the republicans want you to believe.
You and I both know that a liberal will be occupying the White House next January. I just don't see America moving that far left of center to select a marxist like obama to lead our country. Especailly after what the DNC just pulled.
IMHO, come November the American voters will choose a Vietnam War POW who's spent more than two decades in the Senate over a half-black motivational speaker/snakeoil salesman who was only in the Senate for 143 days before he began running for president.
John McCain has served this country so honorably that I can't stand in his shadow.
That being said, this country needs to change. And John McCain's mentality just doesn't lend itself to a world without US at war or the US dominance over others.
I initially was for Hillary, then I've looked at Obama real hard. Either way I'm voting democrat.
I'm tired of the george bush and John McCain vision for America. < :-)
I hope we're discussing and living the side of socialism sometime in the near future. I would rather be trapped in a world of peace, then a world of war. < :-)
super D - If that tape really exists, it's going to doom Obama, whether Rove releases it in time for Clinton to get the nomination, or before the general election against McCain. But it might not actually exist.
If Clinton has the larger number of popular votes, she has them only because Florida and Michigan votes were invalid. However, invalid votes do not count and there are good reasons for not counting the Florida and Michigan votes here. Rules can be changed, but they ought not be changed in the middle of the game.
Yeah, the rules were established when the contest was still open to both candidates winning it. Changing the rules and allowing those delegates at this stage in the game would be nothing more than changing the rules to let one person win. The fact is that allowing Hillary to win would create a much, much larger backlash, and that's the last thing the Democrats need right now.
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Madverts at 12:38 AM JST - 2nd June
Calm down, ramen. Senator Obama will still have a place for even you in his heart when he takes the oath to become CoC.
RomeoRamenII at 12:46 AM JST - 2nd June
First, obama is given more delegates than hillary in two states in which she won the popular vote. Then, Obama is given 59 delegates in a state (Mich.) where he chose to remove his name from the ballot.
How can the "Democratic" party give delegates to someone who didn't run?
This is great theater.
RR
Madverts at 01:01 AM JST - 2nd June
Honestly, calm down. Heh, thank your lucky stars Senator Obama presented himself into the race to trounce the dinasour the Republicans have wheeled out - McCain could have been facing a defeat from a Clinton, instead of a bright, young talent you know.
That really would have been a case of "* 'aint no mountain high enough*"
adaydream at 01:25 AM JST - 2nd June
We democrats will be just fine. Most of the debate and desent I heard on the talk shows this morning is really from the republicans trying to stir up more than is really there.
Sure this is of utmost concern, but it's not a party splitting thing that the republicans want you to believe.
Hell read the post above, just to prove my point.
RomeoRamenII at 02:21 AM JST - 2nd June
adaydream:
You and I both know that a liberal will be occupying the White House next January. I just don't see America moving that far left of center to select a marxist like obama to lead our country. Especailly after what the DNC just pulled.
IMHO, come November the American voters will choose a Vietnam War POW who's spent more than two decades in the Senate over a half-black motivational speaker/snakeoil salesman who was only in the Senate for 143 days before he began running for president.
RR
Madverts at 02:25 AM JST - 2nd June
"select a marxist like obama to lead our country"
And as the Panic continues, the more far-fetched the sliming becomes.
adaydream at 02:37 AM JST - 2nd June
John McCain has served this country so honorably that I can't stand in his shadow.
That being said, this country needs to change. And John McCain's mentality just doesn't lend itself to a world without US at war or the US dominance over others.
I initially was for Hillary, then I've looked at Obama real hard. Either way I'm voting democrat.
I'm tired of the george bush and John McCain vision for America. < :-)
RomeoRamenII at 03:08 AM JST - 2nd June
I'm tired of the ... John McCain vision for America.
Just as I have no interest in watching America become a socialist/marxist state. Hence, the reason I'll be voting Republican.
Looks like we'll have to agree to disagree on how America proceeds in January 2009.
RR
adaydream at 03:16 AM JST - 2nd June
I guess so RR.
I hope we're discussing and living the side of socialism sometime in the near future. I would rather be trapped in a world of peace, then a world of war. < :-)
Sarge at 07:43 AM JST - 2nd June
Hillary just won 70% of the vote in Puerto Rico.
SushiSake3 at 04:59 PM JST - 2nd June
Sarge, I'm glad you will be voting Obama this time :-)
super delegate at 05:03 PM JST - 2nd June
google Michelle Obama + whitey to see why Hillary refuses to step down.
Sarge at 05:13 PM JST - 2nd June
super D - If that tape really exists, it's going to doom Obama, whether Rove releases it in time for Clinton to get the nomination, or before the general election against McCain. But it might not actually exist.
SezWho2 at 08:11 PM JST - 2nd June
SuperLib,
If Clinton has the larger number of popular votes, she has them only because Florida and Michigan votes were invalid. However, invalid votes do not count and there are good reasons for not counting the Florida and Michigan votes here. Rules can be changed, but they ought not be changed in the middle of the game.
SuperLib at 12:29 AM JST - 3rd June
Yeah, the rules were established when the contest was still open to both candidates winning it. Changing the rules and allowing those delegates at this stage in the game would be nothing more than changing the rules to let one person win. The fact is that allowing Hillary to win would create a much, much larger backlash, and that's the last thing the Democrats need right now.
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