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Obama close to making decision on sending troops to Afghanistan

World Feb. 17, 2009 - 06:31AM JST ( 18 )

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SushiSake3Feb. 17, 2009 - 10:47AM JST

No comments from the fringe Right on this move?

Perhaps they know their beloved former president should have done this from the start? :-)
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skipthesongFeb. 17, 2009 - 11:34AM JST

should have done this from the start! Hey Sushi, never thought we'd agree on something.
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adaydreamFeb. 17, 2009 - 11:41AM JST

I just hope that this administration doesn't get stuck in the "Stay the course" crap too long. Do the job and get the hell out. But with Pakistan and their Taliban problem, this isn't going to be solved with drones and missiles and killing innocent people in the process.

We got a real problem now. We gave them $10Billion and allowed them the luxery of wasting our money and not doing the job they were paid for.

We better do this right. < :-)
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SargeFeb. 17, 2009 - 11:48AM JST

How about the Russians sending some troops to Afghanistan? They're a lot closer. No, wait, the Russians are despised by Afghanis.
Hey, how about the Afghanis quit fighting each other and start helping to build a new Afghanistan?
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SushiSake3Feb. 17, 2009 - 04:25PM JST

Sarge - "How about the Russians sending some troops to Afghanistan?"

Ehhr...probably because they have already tried, failed, and are wisely keeping way out of this fight.

Um..unlike your lot.

Sarge - "Hey, how about the Afghanis quit fighting each other and start helping to build a new Afghanistan?"

Wait! Lo! I see rainbows and dancing unicorns over there in the distance. Everything looks so beautiful in Sarge's Dreamland......! :-)
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SuperLibFeb. 17, 2009 - 07:15PM JST

No blood for oil.
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MadvertsFeb. 17, 2009 - 07:25PM JST

There's oil in Afghanistan? ;)

Strange since all they export would seem to be terrorism and opium....
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TheQuestionFeb. 17, 2009 - 10:01PM JST

"Strange since all they export would seem to be terrorism and opium...."

How do you think they report the terrorist output? I was thinking either in units in service or maybe its just reported on overall GDP.

But seriously, the timetable for withdrawl has all but been scrapped and now more troops are going to Afghanistan. I've got no moral opinion on the matter itself but I'm just not seeing much, oh whats that word they kept pounding into my head at every god forsaken opportunity, oh yes, change.

At least people called bush out on this kind of stuff, oh to have those days back, when people called the president an imbecile for waving a little to long or smiling weird. God, now if you so much as blink the wrong way toward Obama's picture your labeled a bigot and anti-american.
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adaydreamFeb. 17, 2009 - 11:15PM JST

Six years ago the U. S. went into Afghanistan to end the Taliban's influence and existance. We failed at that because we took our eye off the target.

Now we have to send in additional troops that were originally in Afghanistan because we wanted to start another war in Iraq while staying involved in Afghanistan.

Now after 6 years we have to replan how to clean the countryside of the Taliban. It's not a nationality, it's a movement and until the conditions that create the movement have to be changed then we'll be dealing with them.

The Taliban has moved from the bases in Afghanistan to Pakistan. The U. S. needs to get with Pakistan and quit fighting border wars and use a combined front to take out the Taliban and not just moving them around.

Obama's going to send in more troops, but he doesn't want to do what's been done before. Change is needed not only in the U. S., but in the operations that we are conducting around the world.

Obama will send in troops. < :-)
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MolenirFeb. 18, 2009 - 02:03AM JST

Perhaps they know their beloved former president should have done this from the start? :-)

Excuse me, I know I read beloved former president, but no one comes to mind. You're talking Bush right? Cause he is certainly not beloved by most people on the right. He's not openly condemned either, but so many of his policies, and his laws catered to moderates and liberals that its hard for a conservative to like him. Even if he did have the R by his name.

At least people called bush out on this kind of stuff, oh to have those days back, when people called the president an imbecile for waving a little to long or smiling weird. God, now if you so much as blink the wrong way toward Obama's picture your labeled a bigot and anti-american.

Sad but true.
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adaydreamFeb. 18, 2009 - 02:33AM JST

Molenir

You're talking Bush right? Cause he is certainly not beloved by most people on the right. He's not openly condemned either, but so many of his policies, and his laws catered to moderates and liberals that its hard for a conservative to like him.

Please tell me a couple of those laws that catered to the moderates and liberals. As soon as he got in he passed bill after bill that gave tax cuts and tax breaks that refunded $4Trillion to the richest 1% of the population.

I'm just so glad that the his grand idea of investing a percentage of your Social Security contributions on the Stock Market. < :-)
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TheQuestionFeb. 18, 2009 - 05:03AM JST

So adaydream, I guess you missed the article about Pakistan imposing islamic law in the sector of land the taliban is in believing that it will make them less likely to blow stuff up.

The bottom line is that very few countries see eye to eye one...well...anything. I suppose the U.S could play the waiting game until another coup occurs in Pakistan, shouldn't take too long.
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adaydreamFeb. 18, 2009 - 05:14AM JST

No I read that article and it really worries me. Pakistan is allowing the Taliban to get holds into areas and this just makes it worse for the U. S.

This gets the Taliban closer to the nukes. I just can't understand Pakistan. < :-)
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TheQuestionFeb. 18, 2009 - 05:40AM JST

There's nothing to understand. Pakistan is unstable, its people are scared, its leaders are parinoid, and everybody just wants a quick fix and they believe that giving the taliban what they want will make things better. And they, in turn, cant understand why we fight the taliban. Different worlds and different perceptions, if ordered to build a house a man in the U.S will cut down trees and the man in Pakistan will start mixing mortar and gathering stones. We all do what we believe we must and prescious few of us ask: Why must we?
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adaydreamFeb. 18, 2009 - 06:07AM JST

adaydream at 02:33 AM JST - 18th February

my post was incomplete.

I'm just so glad that the his grand idea of investing a percentage of your Social Security contributions on the Stock Market failed. < :-)
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USAFdudeFeb. 18, 2009 - 07:54AM JST

At least people called bush out on this kind of stuff, oh to have those days back, when people called the president an imbecile for waving a little to long or smiling weird. God, now if you so much as blink the wrong way toward Obama's picture your labeled a bigot and anti-american. Sad but true.

BS. Any time anyone called bush out (rightfully), that someone was immediately branded anti-American and unpatriotic. Those same accusers then turned around and spewed wishes for failure and racial slurs against Obama before he even assumed office.

I'm just glad that such hypocrites are in the minority in America. Here's hoping their numbers lessen even more.
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TheQuestionFeb. 18, 2009 - 10:52AM JST

I'm not sure whether to laugh myself back to the 90's or pitty you for not having a television, radio, or any social interaction for the past 4 years. There have been movies and t.v shows dedicated to slamming bush, its a running theme on CNN and MSNBC, and every radio personality from coast to coast has used him as a dirtmat in a poor attempt to seem politically informed. Every magazine in every store has had one of those still frame pictures of bush making that monkey face while talking, its impossible to go to any source of media and NOT find bush hating material.

By contrast when if I so much as mention a complaint against Obama in my political science class I am automatically informed that the person before him was much worse and that I should be happy to have experienced such a historic election. To which I blink at the absurdatiy of it all, its like saying you should be happy that you have a lemon scented pile of refuse instead of the regular pile of refuse and be happy that mine was the first ever pile of refuse to not smell like it looks.
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MolenirFeb. 18, 2009 - 06:17PM JST

Please tell me a couple of those laws that catered to the moderates and liberals. As soon as he got in he passed bill after bill that gave tax cuts and tax breaks that refunded $4Trillion to the richest 1% of the population.

Can you seriously not think of anything? Let me think. Bush passed the biggest entitlement program since the 60s. He passed "No Child Left behind", he passed more democratic sponsored legislation then Clinton did. Do you really think conservatives were happy with this? With him? He gave the Republican party a huge black eye, not just because he invaded Iraq, and then mismanaged the war, but because of his out of control spending.

There are only a very few things conservatives applaud Bush for. The 2 biggest are his supreme court picks, and cutting taxes at the beginning of his term.