lol. peeps remember PR means NOTHING, it just delays the inevitable, only 20% bothered to show up, PLeeeezzzzeeeeeee. She needs to sit down!!!, oh Ted Haggard, we cannot FORGET him..lol......
The democrats have shot themselves in the foot again. After Bush they should be able to walk into the White House but it's not going to happen with Obama. I am guessing a lot of Hillary supporters will stay home or vote for McCain because they feel cheated. Personally though the Republicans don't like him I think McCain is a good choice. He's far more centrist and as an independent I have no problem supporting him.
It appears that Obama and McCain have both had problems with pastors running their mouth.
Yeah, I know Obama's was his home church pastor. McCain's wasn't.
But for these pastors who normally speak of love and caring, they kinda got off the message. They looked for the chance to be hate mongers. Is that how they spread their love?
I agree that Obama had to cut the ties. Luckily McCain's problem wasn't his church's pastor.
This has been a great election year. The democrats have two candidates that are working to get into office to correct what the george bush has done to destroy our country's economy and bring our military home. george bush only tried to help the rich. Hillary and Barack want to help everyone else. < :-)
then support him expat.. go ahead waste your vote...sure in hell you wont vote for the black guy no matter how much better he is...hillary supporter feel cheated??? c`mon. She cannot win anyway, even if she got all the delegates, the man did not have his name on the damn ballot. she agreed before that they broke the ruless, NOW she want the votes.. what a selfish BAITCH...so i will take my chances on the black dude and waste my vote
obama should have left the church 20 years ago after the first wright "sermon" of hate and bigotry; that is, unless he actually agreed with wright and the church's bigotry before it became political poison.
obama and michelle took their children to listen to "Rev." wright and what he believed for many, many years. Adults don't expose their children to people/ideas that they think are wrong or harmful. The big truth on this subject is obama was comfortable with what "Rev." wright was preaching until the public spotlight was thrust upon it. Only then has obama turned away from the church.
He quit in the name of damage control.
The hate filled, racist church was not going to change its tune because he is running for president. It has been that way for 30 years. That is Black Liberation Theology.
obama left the church for political reasons. He would not tell them it was wrong, to stop: That hate and racism is not acceptable.
Instead he quit.
For obama to run around America talking about unity, getting past race, healing, etc., then not to take action when he sees it going on in his own church and by his own mentor means he condones it since he failed to actually try to do something.
This all goes back obama's showing poor judgement, his lack of standing behind what he says his and failure to do anything.
And the democrat leadership is about to approve of all this. Man, the Republicans are sure gonna have a good time during this general election cycle.
Of the 29 primaries since New Hampshire from which delegates have been allocated, obama has won 15. But in doing so, he got a majority of the white votes in just five of the 29 contests. And while winning three of the eight primaries held since March 4, Obama won a majority of the white vote in only two — Oregon and Vermont.
That means obama won white person vote in only eight out of 37 states.
Why do you think that matters? Do you think Democrats or Independents are going to vote for McCain because he's "white"? Do you think white voters are better thinkers than non-white voters?
I'm sure that many people will vote their prejudices. But I don't think that's going to make a difference in this election. The next President will be elected on the basis of the economy, national security and trust--and skin color doesn't have anything to do with those.
Given obama's success rate in white dominated states if the democrats are going to retake the White House, they are going to have to find about 40 million blacks to borrow for a day in November.
Do you think Democrats or Independents are going to vote for McCain because he's "white"? "
Talking to a few white friends, none of them said they wouldn't vote for Obama because he is black and none of them said they would vote for McCain because he is white. However, they all said they would not vote for Hillary as she is too much of one of those rich libs who feel what she thinks is what is best without any consultation.
It seems to me that Obama has rock star status. Poor to middle class whites have bore the brunt of the fiction in race relations in the US, and as I have heard many times, Obama at first seems to be the person to fit the bill - black and white. However, his church/ex-church seem to refute that. McCain really has no standing, but if Obama starts playing race card, where as any criticism is going to be outlawed, then they will have no choice. This is just their feeling. Additionally, I don't know why Obama has come out and made such great speeches on why blacks are angry in his response to the REv Wright issue - we all know that, but why hasn't he tried to at the very least reach out the poor to middle class whites? Has he felt that it would be useless? I hope not.
This entitlement that the priest was mocking actually seems more reversed if you look at. Is Obama entitled to the spot of presidency because he is black or black and white? Is he entitled to it due to history, when his legacy does not reach such. These are questions that I am hearing. Still I have not heard anyone who is white state they would not vote for him because he is black. Are they hiding it from me? Do they think I would be offended?
Because of Puerto Rico (haha i voted for her here), Obama will not be able to clinch the nomination outright. He can't claim s**t. He has to pressure superdelegates to commit before the convention. Hillary's increasing the popular vote margin by 120,000 does not hurt either.
Last time i heard democracy was about following the will of the people, not just some delegates which in most situations vote for whoever they owe some political favors anyway. For example, Governor Acevedo-Vila in Puerto Rico (currently accused of 19 Federal felony counts) is an Obama superdelegate, even though the will of his Democratic Party constituents in Puerto Rico is that he support Hillary. The current syetems leads itself to crony politics.
In most popular vote scenarios Hillary is up front, or at least it could be argued that its a statistical dead heat. Hillary has every right to take the decision to the convention. Whatever happpens, the only reason they could lose the general elections is if they run out of money (McCain is warchesting all these days). There's just too much bad s**t happen in the last 8 years and McCain will not be able to hold any of them back, especially if Hillary and Obama run together... It's all about winning some of the Red states back, and they can do it in many places.
I know PR first hand - it is the West Virgina of the Caribean. They are so racist its amazing considering what their racial composition is. Obama wouldn't have stood a chance against a dead white democrat that isn't even on the ballot.
Obama didnt win because he didnt even spend 2 days campaigning here. He didnt have any backing from major local politicians (other than the governor who has a 29% approval rating). Politics is the national pasttime here (forget baseball), and Obama wasnt willing to answer any hard questions. I assume this is how he operates in all other states, not really leveraging on any contacts of his own, but relying on others.
Obama's speech today looked presidential, and have to give him some credit for someone who's only been doing this on a national basis for 3 years. I'm sure he owes a lot of favors.
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Damax6 at 10:11 PM JST - 2nd June
lol. peeps remember PR means NOTHING, it just delays the inevitable, only 20% bothered to show up, PLeeeezzzzeeeeeee. She needs to sit down!!!, oh Ted Haggard, we cannot FORGET him..lol......
usaexpat at 11:37 PM JST - 2nd June
The democrats have shot themselves in the foot again. After Bush they should be able to walk into the White House but it's not going to happen with Obama. I am guessing a lot of Hillary supporters will stay home or vote for McCain because they feel cheated. Personally though the Republicans don't like him I think McCain is a good choice. He's far more centrist and as an independent I have no problem supporting him.
usaexpat at 11:38 PM JST - 2nd June
Sarge that was great, thanks for the laugh
adaydream at 12:01 AM JST - 3rd June
It appears that Obama and McCain have both had problems with pastors running their mouth.
Yeah, I know Obama's was his home church pastor. McCain's wasn't.
But for these pastors who normally speak of love and caring, they kinda got off the message. They looked for the chance to be hate mongers. Is that how they spread their love?
I agree that Obama had to cut the ties. Luckily McCain's problem wasn't his church's pastor.
This has been a great election year. The democrats have two candidates that are working to get into office to correct what the george bush has done to destroy our country's economy and bring our military home. george bush only tried to help the rich. Hillary and Barack want to help everyone else. < :-)
Damax6 at 12:15 AM JST - 3rd June
then support him expat.. go ahead waste your vote...sure in hell you wont vote for the black guy no matter how much better he is...hillary supporter feel cheated??? c`mon. She cannot win anyway, even if she got all the delegates, the man did not have his name on the damn ballot. she agreed before that they broke the ruless, NOW she want the votes.. what a selfish BAITCH...so i will take my chances on the black dude and waste my vote
RomeoRamenII at 02:22 AM JST - 3rd June
obama should have left the church 20 years ago after the first wright "sermon" of hate and bigotry; that is, unless he actually agreed with wright and the church's bigotry before it became political poison.
obama and michelle took their children to listen to "Rev." wright and what he believed for many, many years. Adults don't expose their children to people/ideas that they think are wrong or harmful. The big truth on this subject is obama was comfortable with what "Rev." wright was preaching until the public spotlight was thrust upon it. Only then has obama turned away from the church.
He quit in the name of damage control.
The hate filled, racist church was not going to change its tune because he is running for president. It has been that way for 30 years. That is Black Liberation Theology.
obama left the church for political reasons. He would not tell them it was wrong, to stop: That hate and racism is not acceptable.
Instead he quit.
For obama to run around America talking about unity, getting past race, healing, etc., then not to take action when he sees it going on in his own church and by his own mentor means he condones it since he failed to actually try to do something.
This all goes back obama's showing poor judgement, his lack of standing behind what he says his and failure to do anything.
And the democrat leadership is about to approve of all this. Man, the Republicans are sure gonna have a good time during this general election cycle.
RR
RomeoRamenII at 04:48 AM JST - 3rd June
So, to recap:
Of the 29 primaries since New Hampshire from which delegates have been allocated, obama has won 15. But in doing so, he got a majority of the white votes in just five of the 29 contests. And while winning three of the eight primaries held since March 4, Obama won a majority of the white vote in only two — Oregon and Vermont.
That means obama won white person vote in only eight out of 37 states.
RR
adaydream at 05:57 AM JST - 3rd June
Oh RR, you really want someone to bite.
It'll have to be a republican.
Democrats are pretty happy with the two that are running for the party. They will decide here in a few days who will lead the party.
It's a wonderful in the neighborhood. < :-)
Ichirou at 06:47 AM JST - 3rd June
adaydream, if Hillary has her way, this won't be resolved until August!
SezWho2 at 10:20 AM JST - 3rd June
RomeoRamenII,
Why do you think that matters? Do you think Democrats or Independents are going to vote for McCain because he's "white"? Do you think white voters are better thinkers than non-white voters?
I'm sure that many people will vote their prejudices. But I don't think that's going to make a difference in this election. The next President will be elected on the basis of the economy, national security and trust--and skin color doesn't have anything to do with those.
RomeoRamenII at 10:30 AM JST - 3rd June
Sez:
Given obama's success rate in white dominated states if the democrats are going to retake the White House, they are going to have to find about 40 million blacks to borrow for a day in November.
RR
skipthesong at 11:44 AM JST - 3rd June
Do you think Democrats or Independents are going to vote for McCain because he's "white"? "
Talking to a few white friends, none of them said they wouldn't vote for Obama because he is black and none of them said they would vote for McCain because he is white. However, they all said they would not vote for Hillary as she is too much of one of those rich libs who feel what she thinks is what is best without any consultation.
It seems to me that Obama has rock star status. Poor to middle class whites have bore the brunt of the fiction in race relations in the US, and as I have heard many times, Obama at first seems to be the person to fit the bill - black and white. However, his church/ex-church seem to refute that. McCain really has no standing, but if Obama starts playing race card, where as any criticism is going to be outlawed, then they will have no choice. This is just their feeling. Additionally, I don't know why Obama has come out and made such great speeches on why blacks are angry in his response to the REv Wright issue - we all know that, but why hasn't he tried to at the very least reach out the poor to middle class whites? Has he felt that it would be useless? I hope not.
This entitlement that the priest was mocking actually seems more reversed if you look at. Is Obama entitled to the spot of presidency because he is black or black and white? Is he entitled to it due to history, when his legacy does not reach such. These are questions that I am hearing. Still I have not heard anyone who is white state they would not vote for him because he is black. Are they hiding it from me? Do they think I would be offended?
PepinGalarga at 04:47 PM JST - 3rd June
Because of Puerto Rico (haha i voted for her here), Obama will not be able to clinch the nomination outright. He can't claim s**t. He has to pressure superdelegates to commit before the convention. Hillary's increasing the popular vote margin by 120,000 does not hurt either.
Last time i heard democracy was about following the will of the people, not just some delegates which in most situations vote for whoever they owe some political favors anyway. For example, Governor Acevedo-Vila in Puerto Rico (currently accused of 19 Federal felony counts) is an Obama superdelegate, even though the will of his Democratic Party constituents in Puerto Rico is that he support Hillary. The current syetems leads itself to crony politics.
In most popular vote scenarios Hillary is up front, or at least it could be argued that its a statistical dead heat. Hillary has every right to take the decision to the convention. Whatever happpens, the only reason they could lose the general elections is if they run out of money (McCain is warchesting all these days). There's just too much bad s**t happen in the last 8 years and McCain will not be able to hold any of them back, especially if Hillary and Obama run together... It's all about winning some of the Red states back, and they can do it in many places.
unscrejects at 09:32 PM JST - 3rd June
I know PR first hand - it is the West Virgina of the Caribean. They are so racist its amazing considering what their racial composition is. Obama wouldn't have stood a chance against a dead white democrat that isn't even on the ballot.
PepinGalarga at 01:28 PM JST - 4th June
Obama didnt win because he didnt even spend 2 days campaigning here. He didnt have any backing from major local politicians (other than the governor who has a 29% approval rating). Politics is the national pasttime here (forget baseball), and Obama wasnt willing to answer any hard questions. I assume this is how he operates in all other states, not really leveraging on any contacts of his own, but relying on others.
Obama's speech today looked presidential, and have to give him some credit for someone who's only been doing this on a national basis for 3 years. I'm sure he owes a lot of favors.
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