MODERATOR: What do you see as the future direction for American foreign policy in the next 4 years?
OBAMA: Mending and maintaining relationships with traditionally loyal and reliable international partners.
MCCAIN: America's unsafe! War on Terror!™
MODERATOR: The economy?
OBAMA: Tax relief for the bottom 80% of least-wealthy Americans and a top-down review of economic principles that have brought us to the current problems.
MCCAIN: America's unsafe! War on Terror!!™
MODERATOR: Education?
OBAMA: Redirecting focus on...
MCCAIN: America's unsafe! War on Terror!!™
MODERATOR: Abortion?
OBAMA: Ensuring tha...
MCCAIN: America's unsafe! WAR ON TERROR!!™
MODERATOR: Energ...
MCCAIN:America's still unsafe, damnit! WAR ON TERROR!!!™
Yes, should be a wonderful debate. I imagine Palin vs. Biden will go about the same, with Palin towing the party line nicely.
I love it when McCain sputters. I expect him to sputter a lot. It is even better when he sputters and shakes his tiny little fists. Add the McCain blinking and his tempestuous little temper and I am sure McCain will put on quite a show for us. While McCain will provide the amusement we will be fervently listening what our next president, Obama, will have in store when he takes the oath of Office next year.
Don't forget, Bill O'Reilly has also stated several times he thinks Obama is a tough guy. This was after their interview during the republican convention. He has said it on his show and an interview on a Fox news show.
Don't forget, Bill O'Reilly has also stated several times he thinks Obama is a tough guy.
Look, oreilly is a purveyor of hate.Even if he says something that SEEMS positive about Barack you can be sure there is racism encoded in his words. Join me in refusing to capitalize his name and maybe we can bring them down.
You sure you want to do this with a successful FOREX trader?"
Xenon, if you are an Obama supporter I am willing to take this up.
We can set a place of meeting, preferably in Tokyo (roppongi hills, Kamiyacho, Otemachi, Tokyo Sta area....) FOREX, so you probably in the Toranoman Sta area, no?
Ok, I just looked at your post, I am talking much shorter, as I am considering ditching the US citizenship. If I am wrong, you can make out with in one cycle and mind you, we are only talking about US income from gains and profits (I don't get a "salary"). It will not include what I make in Japan or elsewhere because I am only recently dabbling)
Taniwah, a public company counts as a person in the US. I don't what other countries do, but a company is considered one person and it is not owned by its owners, but by its share holders. A corporation has its on SSN and it is subject to all laws just like any human is as well.
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2469/how-can-a-corporation-be-legally-considered-a-person
So, next time you shout at me, don't shout so loud! I can hear you you know,..
I am just talking a friendly agreement. And yes, I do support Obama over McCain. I do not wish to try and take real money from you and I hope you do not want to take real money from me (because in all possibility you would probably win).
I am in Fukuoka now and trade from home.
I am considering ditching the US citizenship.
Interesting. I have been thinking the same on occasion.
Overall, I just think this would be a fun learning experience as I don't have any idea on what assets/businesses you own in the states and this will have to be based on trust and trust alone.
a public company counts as a person in the US. I don't what other countries do, but a company is considered one person and it is not owned by its owners, but by its share holders.
The 14th amendment might have been used to allow corporations the same rights as citizens, but that doesn't mean individuals and corporations reaped the same benefits as a result. Clearly this has not been so except for the most part in the case of very rare and well celebrated class action suits.
The US Constitutions applies to US citizens not to "persons", and we are talking about the very same Constitution that has been dismantled in good part by the Bush Administration. When you are talking about the rights of US citizens lets remember these are now subject to removal by executive decision.
A company is indeed owned by its shareholders, in principle, until the government steps in and nationalizes it! Then, in theory, it ought to be owned by the nation.
BTW, this is what has just happened. Right?
The Capitalist concept of a 'free market' has been proven to be ideology, and Capitalism itself deserves to be put to rest, before in its death throes it destroys us all.
No idea what 'shouting' you are on about. You are still not making sense.
Advice to Obama, the truth about mccain and his campaign based on lies.
BARTLET GET ANGRIER! Call them liars, because that’s what they are. Sarah Palin didn’t say “thanks but no thanks” to the Bridge to Nowhere. She just said “Thanks.” You were raised by a single mother on food stamps — where does a guy with eight houses who was legacied into Annapolis get off calling you an elitist? And by the way, if you do nothing else, take that word back. Elite is a good word, it means well above average. I’d ask them what their problem is with excellence. While you’re at it, I want the word “patriot” back. McCain can say that the transcendent issue of our time is the spread of Islamic fanaticism or he can choose a running mate who doesn’t know the Bush doctrine from the Monroe Doctrine, but he can’t do both at the same time and call it patriotic. They have to lie — the truth isn’t their friend right now. Get angry. Mock them mercilessly; they’ve earned it. McCain decried agents of intolerance, then chose a running mate who had to ask if she was allowed to ban books from a public library. It’s not bad enough she thinks the planet Earth was created in six days 6,000 years ago complete with a man, a woman and a talking snake, she wants schools to teach the rest of our kids to deny geology, anthropology, archaeology and common sense too? It’s not bad enough she’s forcing her own daughter into a loveless marriage to a teenage hood, she wants the rest of us to guide our daughters in that direction too? It’s not enough that a woman shouldn’t have the right to choose, it should be the law of the land that she has to carry and deliver her rapist’s baby too? I don’t know whether or not Governor Palin has the tenacity of a pit bull, but I know for sure she’s got the qualifications of one. And you’re worried about seeming angry? You could eat their lunch, make them cry and tell their mamas about it and God himself would call it restrained. There are times when you are simply required to be impolite. There are times when condescension is called for!
Let's look at the educational background of your two options:
Obama:
Occidental College - Two years.
Columbia University - B.A. political science with a specialization in international relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude
& Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in history and B.A. in political science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)
vs.
McCain: United States Naval Academy - Class rank 894 of 899
crashed 5 airplanes
& Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in journalism
Remember, 8 years ago we elected another underachiever (Bush was a C&D student) and look where the country is now.
I voted Republican in 2004 and Democratic in 2006. I believe my mother, sisters, aunts, daughter, etc... should be in control of their own wombs (to me, the issue is a no-brainer personal choice). This year I will vote for McCain. In 2005 McCain was one of three cosponsors of S.190, the bill that would have avoided the current Financial crisis. However, S.190, the bill that would have placed regulations on 'Mae and 'Mac and Banks was blocked by the Democratic congress ("too partisan"). I enjoy reading all your posts and prefer to stay out your arguments.
I've been asking this question since Bush made it into his second term. Where along the way did American's decide that absolutely mediocre from our national leadership is the best we should shoot for?
I don't want a "hockey mom" running the country. I don't want a "good ol' boy" running the country. I don't want an "average Joe just like you or me" running the country. You and I can be stupid at times. I want intelligent, qualified, and yes, elite individuals to do the job.
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Sarge at 02:46 AM JST - 20th September
I can't wait for the debates. It's not going to be pretty. Obama's in over his silly head, and Biden's going to get bitten by the Barracuda.
Alinsky4prez at 03:12 AM JST - 20th September
Its like Barack says -
" I'm skinny, but I'm tough. "
LFRAgain at 03:24 AM JST - 20th September
Yes, I can see the debates now:
MODERATOR: What do you see as the future direction for American foreign policy in the next 4 years?
OBAMA: Mending and maintaining relationships with traditionally loyal and reliable international partners.
MCCAIN: America's unsafe! War on Terror!™
MODERATOR: The economy?
OBAMA: Tax relief for the bottom 80% of least-wealthy Americans and a top-down review of economic principles that have brought us to the current problems.
MCCAIN: America's unsafe! War on Terror!!™
MODERATOR: Education?
OBAMA: Redirecting focus on...
MCCAIN: America's unsafe! War on Terror!!™
MODERATOR: Abortion?
OBAMA: Ensuring tha...
MCCAIN: America's unsafe! WAR ON TERROR!!™
MODERATOR: Energ...
MCCAIN:America's still unsafe, damnit! WAR ON TERROR!!!™
Yes, should be a wonderful debate. I imagine Palin vs. Biden will go about the same, with Palin towing the party line nicely.
goodDonkey at 03:29 AM JST - 20th September
sarge
I love it when McCain sputters. I expect him to sputter a lot. It is even better when he sputters and shakes his tiny little fists. Add the McCain blinking and his tempestuous little temper and I am sure McCain will put on quite a show for us. While McCain will provide the amusement we will be fervently listening what our next president, Obama, will have in store when he takes the oath of Office next year.
Schutzstaffel at 04:37 AM JST - 20th September
Obama is bad guy who should shut his face about war veteren hero Mr McCain.
McCain is capable of making the good choice for world ecomomies.
But anyway many American will never vote for non whit man, and Obama loses.
jwills79 at 07:13 AM JST - 20th September
Alinskey4prez,
Don't forget, Bill O'Reilly has also stated several times he thinks Obama is a tough guy. This was after their interview during the republican convention. He has said it on his show and an interview on a Fox news show.
Alinsky4prez at 10:18 AM JST - 20th September
Look, oreilly is a purveyor of hate.Even if he says something that SEEMS positive about Barack you can be sure there is racism encoded in his words. Join me in refusing to capitalize his name and maybe we can bring them down.
skipthesong at 11:36 AM JST - 20th September
You sure you want to do this with a successful FOREX trader?"
Xenon, if you are an Obama supporter I am willing to take this up. We can set a place of meeting, preferably in Tokyo (roppongi hills, Kamiyacho, Otemachi, Tokyo Sta area....) FOREX, so you probably in the Toranoman Sta area, no? Ok, I just looked at your post, I am talking much shorter, as I am considering ditching the US citizenship. If I am wrong, you can make out with in one cycle and mind you, we are only talking about US income from gains and profits (I don't get a "salary"). It will not include what I make in Japan or elsewhere because I am only recently dabbling)
Taniwah, a public company counts as a person in the US. I don't what other countries do, but a company is considered one person and it is not owned by its owners, but by its share holders. A corporation has its on SSN and it is subject to all laws just like any human is as well. http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2469/how-can-a-corporation-be-legally-considered-a-person So, next time you shout at me, don't shout so loud! I can hear you you know,..
Xennon at 12:56 PM JST - 20th September
Skipthesong,
I am just talking a friendly agreement. And yes, I do support Obama over McCain. I do not wish to try and take real money from you and I hope you do not want to take real money from me (because in all possibility you would probably win). I am in Fukuoka now and trade from home.
Interesting. I have been thinking the same on occasion.
Overall, I just think this would be a fun learning experience as I don't have any idea on what assets/businesses you own in the states and this will have to be based on trust and trust alone.
taniwha at 01:52 PM JST - 20th September
Skip
The 14th amendment might have been used to allow corporations the same rights as citizens, but that doesn't mean individuals and corporations reaped the same benefits as a result. Clearly this has not been so except for the most part in the case of very rare and well celebrated class action suits.
The US Constitutions applies to US citizens not to "persons", and we are talking about the very same Constitution that has been dismantled in good part by the Bush Administration. When you are talking about the rights of US citizens lets remember these are now subject to removal by executive decision.
A company is indeed owned by its shareholders, in principle, until the government steps in and nationalizes it! Then, in theory, it ought to be owned by the nation.
BTW, this is what has just happened. Right?
The Capitalist concept of a 'free market' has been proven to be ideology, and Capitalism itself deserves to be put to rest, before in its death throes it destroys us all.
No idea what 'shouting' you are on about. You are still not making sense.
Nessie at 03:36 PM JST - 20th September
Good idea, Taka. I volunteer to be the designated driver. On the condition that everyone comes by subway.
zurcronium at 07:48 PM JST - 21st September
Advice to Obama, the truth about mccain and his campaign based on lies.
BARTLET GET ANGRIER! Call them liars, because that’s what they are. Sarah Palin didn’t say “thanks but no thanks” to the Bridge to Nowhere. She just said “Thanks.” You were raised by a single mother on food stamps — where does a guy with eight houses who was legacied into Annapolis get off calling you an elitist? And by the way, if you do nothing else, take that word back. Elite is a good word, it means well above average. I’d ask them what their problem is with excellence. While you’re at it, I want the word “patriot” back. McCain can say that the transcendent issue of our time is the spread of Islamic fanaticism or he can choose a running mate who doesn’t know the Bush doctrine from the Monroe Doctrine, but he can’t do both at the same time and call it patriotic. They have to lie — the truth isn’t their friend right now. Get angry. Mock them mercilessly; they’ve earned it. McCain decried agents of intolerance, then chose a running mate who had to ask if she was allowed to ban books from a public library. It’s not bad enough she thinks the planet Earth was created in six days 6,000 years ago complete with a man, a woman and a talking snake, she wants schools to teach the rest of our kids to deny geology, anthropology, archaeology and common sense too? It’s not bad enough she’s forcing her own daughter into a loveless marriage to a teenage hood, she wants the rest of us to guide our daughters in that direction too? It’s not enough that a woman shouldn’t have the right to choose, it should be the law of the land that she has to carry and deliver her rapist’s baby too? I don’t know whether or not Governor Palin has the tenacity of a pit bull, but I know for sure she’s got the qualifications of one. And you’re worried about seeming angry? You could eat their lunch, make them cry and tell their mamas about it and God himself would call it restrained. There are times when you are simply required to be impolite. There are times when condescension is called for!
jwills79 at 05:05 PM JST - 22nd September
Let's look at the educational background of your two options:
Obama: Occidental College - Two years.
Columbia University - B.A. political science with a specialization in international relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude
& Biden: University of Delaware - B.A. in history and B.A. in political science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)
vs.
McCain: United States Naval Academy - Class rank 894 of 899
crashed 5 airplanes
& Palin: Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in journalism
Remember, 8 years ago we elected another underachiever (Bush was a C&D student) and look where the country is now.
Now, which team are you going to hire ?
MagicRooster at 01:24 AM JST - 23rd September
I voted Republican in 2004 and Democratic in 2006. I believe my mother, sisters, aunts, daughter, etc... should be in control of their own wombs (to me, the issue is a no-brainer personal choice). This year I will vote for McCain. In 2005 McCain was one of three cosponsors of S.190, the bill that would have avoided the current Financial crisis. However, S.190, the bill that would have placed regulations on 'Mae and 'Mac and Banks was blocked by the Democratic congress ("too partisan"). I enjoy reading all your posts and prefer to stay out your arguments.
Everyone have a good day.
LFRAgain at 01:34 PM JST - 23rd September
jwills79,
I've been asking this question since Bush made it into his second term. Where along the way did American's decide that absolutely mediocre from our national leadership is the best we should shoot for?
I don't want a "hockey mom" running the country. I don't want a "good ol' boy" running the country. I don't want an "average Joe just like you or me" running the country. You and I can be stupid at times. I want intelligent, qualified, and yes, elite individuals to do the job.
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